I want to be in a german histroy class

While they're going over WW2. I'd like to see what they teach and the prespective they teach it from. I also wonder if they show holocaust movies there like they do here.

 

they dont show holocost movies, they talk about it, but not in as much detail.
america shows holocost movies to help make sure kids will know that the nazis were evil. but in Germany, they tal about it but they are extremely embaressed by it. its like the biggest stain on their history every. pretty much they say the bare minimum and move on probably as fast as possible

 

i've always thought about that kinda stuff too. just a bit about what other countries teach about their history and how bias it is. i wish i went to school in a different country, it'd be so fun

 

where did you get this information?
sure they do, we do watch movies. nd what is this sentence supposed to mean: In america they show movies to help make sure the kids know the nazis were evil. ?!!
aha, great, and in germany they're not trying to deliver this message to the kids?! hey, yeah, this is part of our history and everywhere you go you get asked the question "what do you think of adolf hitler?" as if we would still learn in school that it was right what he did or as if we'd ignore it.
Yes, we do learn about it, no, we don't move on as fast as possible and the perspective is exacty the same only that we have to cope with the fact that there lots of people who think Germany consists of racists due to what happened in the past.
I'm not trying to deny it was one of the most cruel things in history, but why should we deny that it happened and why should I be embarassed?! yes, it is a spot on our history but you need to accept what happened in order to be able to prevent it from happening again. and you need to learn about ir, and this is exactly what we do.

 

thanks for setting that straight


and its not like Germany is the only one with a bad mark in history.

 

because, there's been a huge growth in the neo facist/nazi "movment" in europe.

 

defenitely... Bush is gonna mark shitstory.

 

calm down, im saying what info i got from people i know who lived in germany. what i meant to say about america is that the winner of the war writes the history. my statement about america wanting tomake sure hitler looked evil, it meant that they wont tell you the good he did for germany, like get germany out of a depression, give germans jobs, make the autobahn, etc.
and im not saying your embareesed urself, but as a whole germany is embaressed. as they should be, if they werent embaressed then that would show that they dont really care about what they did and they diddnt learn from their mistakes.

most people dont think that germans are full of racists. only the idiots. the whole reason it hapened in germany was because germany was weak at that point and hitler took advantage of that weakness and exploited it.

im not insulting germany. im german and im sorry you felt offended but i diddnt want to go into a 5 paragraph essay on something. and i got the info from friends who lived in germany that they dont watch videos and they rush through it, maybe your school isnt like that but some are.
calm down and think for a second next time before you get all pissy. i never said anything bad about germany. its just that no country wants to spend alot of time on something they did wrong and they dont like admitting mistakes very easily
thats why americas drug war is still going on even when they know weed isnt dangerous and theyve proven it in studies, but they dont want to admit they were wrong.

 

Not if the end justifies the means. If that happens, 10 years from now, the only people that will care about the details are the ones that had to live threw it. They won't teach of all of it. Sure they'll talk about parts that were set backs and parts that were for the better. But when this thing is over, and it ends with a free nation and an end to the al quida(sp) sindacite. NO one will care it happend in the future.

 

i dunno man 9/11 was kind of a big deal for the US. first attack in grounds.

 

you mis-understand. It won't be forgotten, but, I do belive no one will care. They will know about 9/11, bombing raids,sadam,osama but will only need to know the out come and not the details of what it took to get us there. They'll know stuff like raise in gas price and this and that. But the scandels will be forgtten, the lack of armor will be just a nother part of history that is just that. Sadam being caugh will something they'll always talk about. THe democartic set up in iraq will be well spread. But it's the details that we know, that we live at that will be "forgotten" Just like the A-bombs in WW2. It does'nt matter now that all those people were killed because it ended the war., and it has no effect on us at this point. Just like Iraq is'nt going to effect our grandkids and such.

 

man, it does too matter that those people died. if they lived, the world would be different. they would have affected people's lives, maybe had kids etc.


and theres more bad stuff that Bush did than get us into a bogus war.

 

yes, but if the war ends with ossoma caught, the democratic iraq is self-sustaining and can protect itself. Bush will go as a hero in the history books. Like I said, if the end justifies the means. Does the end of WW2 justifiy the A-bombs being dropped. On a personal level..no. But on the greater scale it is...well it's told to be. We will know diffrence between the end and the means, but to someone who was'nt around or to young enough to even know it was happening...they will see it as "it was all worth it".

 

hummm. i dont really agree, Bushisms have caught the attention of so many things... think of Fanreheit 9/11 that sold millions of copies all over the world.
Bush gets a darn load of attention.
and to say no one will care is relative... there are plenty of people who dont give a shit anymore about what happened in WW2 with Hitler (like me), and some who do care... and I believe that this Iraq thing is just a beginning of many more things to come.

 

Osama has nothing to do with Iraq... so no, if he's caught (which I think he'd dead), it wont justify that we killed several innocent people in Iraq. they had nothing to do with 9-11. And if it gets written in textbooks differently, you can be damned sure I'm teaching my kids correctly.

And what happened in WWII still affects people. I know people related to Jews who were in the camps. I even grew up with a neighbor who was in them.
Every action causes a permenant change in the world. Whether its easy to see or not.

 

agreed.. its like thinking marijuana will get legalized in 2006 after huge debates and such, but in 2056 people will "not care" about what happened, which is false. action-reaction.

 

but you're talking on a person to person level. On a national level, on a level on which furutre generations will learn. It won't be as abig of deal. NOw, to a person who knew someone who died, who was stuck in that bobming raid, who watched the new reports and saw the body count. Yes, it will not just be shrugged off and to us and those, the end might not justify the means. BUt to someone who is not effected, who did'nt see...it won't. It will just be another mark in histroy. Another date to remeber for fridays test.


Now ofcorse, I'm speaking as if society still remains the same. That is...if there's no change in the way society works.

 

I'm done arguing. You want to believe wars and people dying do not make a difference to the world, go ahead. I'll keep believing what I believe.

 

ugh. That's not what I mean at all. and I find in an insult to suggest I belive the loss of a life is pointless. I guess I can't just get my inner thoughts out in the correct manner.

I don't know if this will help explain what I mean but, for example they build a wall with names on it for people who lost their lives in a war that's it. They build a little memorial to give honor to the pearl harbor victims and then it's done, it's over with lets move on. That's how it's getting passed off as. Kind of a "it happens" mentality. Just like in the war now, the government says how much the feel for the lioves and the families but the more they talk the more they say it just happens, this is war and that's that.