The band RUSH!

Discussion in 'Progressive Rock' started by Hannah32, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. Puddin'

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    I think they may be the only band that are bad because they come from Canada.
     
  2. groovychick1212

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    ok?
     
  3. Puddin'

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    Sorry, my friend loves them and constantly lists them as the Best Thing To Come Out Of Canada, so I've adopted the stance that they're bad BECAUSE they come from Canada.
     
  4. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    ha ha ha they are pretty 80's .... I think the Tragically Hip is a much better fit than Rush for that title.
     
  5. Suzane

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    Oh,i like Rush! They're great.
    Their songs are really good,and Neil Peart is one of the best drummers that i know.
     
  6. synaptic aether

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    i was opsessed with rush for about a year. still like em alot but i wouldn't call it obsession anymore.

    and as far as them being "80's" i totally see them as 70's

    i hate their 90's stuff

    but hemispheres is my favorite. that's 80's something.
     
  7. warmhandedcanadian

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    that's tue I stand correctedx, and yeah the 90's killed rush.

    Best song: working man
     
  8. KasabianRulesMan!

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    It's not a mystery their last good album was in 81-82 ...with Movin' Pictures & there's maybe 2 or 3 good thing in his followed up...

    But it's always by early 80's...
    last Judas classic is 82
    last Sabbath classic 81
    last rolling stone " 81
    last good Iron Maiden "82
    last good whitesnake " 82
    ac dc 81.... etc etc...It's always the same story...
    but i heard people sayin' that by early 90's they were a little more inspired...and they were not the only one to recover a part of their glory

    i've got just 4 rush album...my fave are probably "Fly by Night" & 2112
     
  9. guitarzan_1231

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    Rush is amazing at first i didnt like their 80's stuff but it grew on me. Now i like every song off every album, i even read neil pearts books.
     
  10. Mr MiGu

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    rush is a good band, though they coulda been much better if they got someone other than geddy lee to sing
     
  11. KasabianRulesMan!

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    This is the main problem... you can listen to an album by Celine Dion but you don't like it... but listen to it 5 times... and it will grow in you...:H
     
  12. warmhandedcanadian

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    hey Celine Dion actually started growing on me after I hated her for 10 years, I watched a whole documentary on her and my husband came in he's like "uh what the hell are you doing?" and I'm like "She's growing on me".

    wtf?
     
  13. KasabianRulesMan!

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    Hey i listen parts of their 1982 album... i talk of rush naturally ... not Celine "attractive voice" Dion... i'm just out of rehab (notrue) so i'm 2 fragile for heartbreakin' girls...

    Well i think it's called Signals from 1982 ... there's some keyboards here or there but not 2much and they sound not so bad...but the album sound dark and new wave... and i definitly love this sound ... viva rush !
    but i listen to the follow up of1984... and the keyboards sound like plastic in a music for commercial breaks...at last i found where's the San Andrea fault... somewhere in 1983... i've got the finger upon the violent pulse of badrush
     
  14. SLammon420

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    A thread would be incomplete without someone to fuck up all the Rush-lovingness.
     
  15. SLammon420

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    I hope to God that a Celine Dion album never grows in me.
     
  16. ExistentialPencil

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    I think Rush is excellent. They seem to be one of those bands where most people either loathe them or absolutely love them. I'm one who absolutely loves them.

    The lyrics on Fly By Night were asinine in a lot of it (Snowdog! Is victorious!) heheh, but it was fun, anyway. Rush was a horrible album, but mainly because Neil hadn't shown up, and Rutsey could not hold a candle to him.

    2112 was a great album, only because of the overture. I think calling it an "overture" is a bit grandiose for what it really was, which is basically a classic rock song, with no modulation and no crazy structure differences like Yes had during the early Howe years, but it was very good nevertheless. The vocals during Temples of Syrinx were, ofcourse, amazingly intense. I think the "all your base are belong to us" sort of line at the end was really cheesey, though, and I could have done with out that.

    Anything after signals is not really worth listening to in my opinion.

    I think Peart is one of the better drummers in the music industry today, and I would put him against Dennis Chambers at any time as I assume he'd have no trouble keeping pace. I like Chambers' work with Greg Howe and Wooten, but he seems to have lost a lot of his edge over that which he once was, especially in the newest recordings with Art Blakey. My brother (the drummer) swears by him, though. -- I remember when I use to call Neil Peart "Neil Pert", like the shampoo, for a good several years before I read it was pronounced "Peeurt". I suppose with the spelling I should have assumed that one. [​IMG] Although, I also assumed Geddy wrote most of the lyrics until I was 17 and someone told me it was Neil. Goes to show where the majority of the talent in the band is coming from.

    By the way, Geddy uses a mini-moog synthesizer. Basically anyone who has ever been anyone in progressive rock, including Wendy Carlos (dude/woman who did Switched-on Bach and the A Clockwork Orange soundtrack), Keith Emerson (Emerson, Lake and Palmer) and Rick Wakeman (Yes) has used one of Moog's products, although in the later years I think he was using an Oberheim OB-1 and ObX.
     
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    Neil Peart=great drummer, but I think Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater and Kris Myers from Umphrey's McGee can own his ass. Peart solos well, but I have all of their live DVDs and CDs, and they are all relatively the same except for a few changes. Geddy Lee is the epitome of bass and Alex Lifeson is probably the most underrated guitarist ever.
     
  18. ExistentialPencil

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    There a better bass players than Geddy Lee, but with a voice like his at pair? I would say not.


    Neil is underrated because people want him to be (an intellectual vendictiveness against 'elite' veterans, you know?), but he's actually a very accomplished drummer. I heard him play at a clinic in 2002 in Toronto where he exhibited duple and triple polyrhthms at varying tempos using varied syncopation sporadically using only 4-peices of his drumset and 2 human arms (end legs, ofcourse). That's pretty impressive. Although I suppose he has had a good 35 years of heavy-duty drum playing under his belt, so he probably should be that good.

    I've only heard Umphrey's albums and seen them live once. I read after I saw them that he (Myer's) has an M.A. in Jazz studies, but I couldn't say if he'd be able to outchop Peart unless I saw him play in his own home, or at a clinic of some kind as musicians, especially drummers, rarely show their maximum potential on an album (it's superfluous and annoying) and a live solo is always inconsistent given many factors. I'd say there are many players who're better than Peart, though, Steve Gadd, namely. From what I've heard of U.M., though, Myers is pretty good and his few free jams I saw showed a lot of technical ability and musical range. That's pretty much the largest part of why I like the newer Jam and Progressive bands - most of them have a lot of musical background, many with degrees in music.

    My foremost complaint about Umphrey's McGee lies in the annoying wankery of the guitarist Joel whatshisname. He's good but he over does it like I haven't seen since Paul Gilbert in the Racer X days. Not cool to go see a jam band and end up watching a Steve Hackett wannabe.

    I think Lifeson's songwriting is underrated. He started writing really concise, epic guitar peices very early on. They were epic, but not tangential, as a lot of contemporary progressive rock/metal guitarists try to do, that's the best part. He maintained a bit of a structure to it and had a bit of a "musical reprise", if you will, during each song. He also writes music that is evocative (critic word); every once in a while it's a bit uninspired and dull, but generally it's very deep and wanders emotionally without actually wandering too far musically in terms of structure. You know, the whole "I'm progressive, I better really experiment with every note" issue just isn't there. Most prog. guitarists are too hard to follow when they delve into that bullshit. "Let's modulate every fifteen seconds and use every mode imaginable so people may realize we're educated guitar players". I suppose the incidental that Alex was a very early prog. guitar player helps some in that he didn't yet have the feeling of pressure looming as progressive guitarists had experimented lightly before him and as though due to that he had to be really ostentatious about it in order to "ante up" musically. A lot of Berklee alum. have that problem and they end up writing music that isn't even accessible to the most open of minds.

    Lifeson's chops actually leave a lot to be desired, though, in my opinion, and he's kind of sloppy and extremely limited. I'd take Uli Jon Roth or Steve Howe first, but his writing capacities are definitely worth more than a fleeting mention.
     
  19. HippieAtHeart69

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    Ooh! I love Rush! Geddy Lee is a great bassist. My favourite album is definitly 2112

    My mom saw them live before, she said it was amazing
     
  20. ledzeppelinlover

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    i like rush i'm a not a huge fanatic but i enjoy their music.
     

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