Do you have to be black to be a rasta?

And Selleassie did?

 

Selassie only had royal blood. He didn't do any of the miracles and everything included in the hero myth of Jesus Christ. The royal blood was the only thing they had in common. However Christ was the revolutionary leader.

Its also kinda funny how this supposed royal blood Emporer Selassie's home country Ethiopia was fingerfucked on and off by Italy, during his lifetime.

Anyone see an odd coincidence? Descendant of a holy king of the Old Testament. Italy, who could basically be said was run by the Vatican and a combination of wealthy families.

Italy tied up Ethiopia long enough for no one to give a shit about Selassie. While the depression and WWII were beginning.

A perfect scam by the Vatican. Funny how Mussolini went looking for hte holy grail and the Ark in Ethiopia during this time as a justification for them to be there. Just so happens a biblical descendant became king. Funny how Selassie FLED on his people, who were used to seing Warrior kings.

He knew there was no reason he should stick around. When the Vatican is after him.

This is why The whole "Rasta" ideal didn't catch on to anyone outside its target ethnicity.

You obviously know about Marcus Garvey. It was an African Ethnocentric movement. It was a response to the white ethnocentricity of Catholic to Faschist Italy in the case of Ethipia, and British to Independant ruled Jamaica.

The Jamaicans basically pulled another crapest of the Jesus Christ wish wash. Idolizing and making a man whos power was only of his blood some kind of Immortal or Messiah, which he was not.

He beleived that Jesus Christ was the Messiah. He really did not even want to be Idolized. He didn't even want the Jamaicans to move back to Ethiopia, and said that they did not even understand the Ethiopian Orthodox Church or thier culture.

The only possible link Selassie has with Jesus Christ is the fact that Christ as a person must've looked very simliar. Very Black, Very Semitic.

 

alright, expect for that under Sellassie I, Ethopia was the only country to ever get rid of the colonial force, and when he "FLED" on his people, it must have been how napoleon fled on france...a thing called exile...
Listen, Queen Sheba and King Solomon, if you know the story, you would see that the ethopian royal family has more then just royal blood...that's why king solomon gave the ethopian royal family king david's throne...huh...was that a requirement for the messiah?

well...like i said...i will never convince you you will never convince me!

 

Since all the records of lineage were burned in the sacking of Jerusalem in 70, how does one tie Selassie directly to King David? And, by the way, in reference to an earlier post, according to the NT gospels, both Mary and Joseph were descendants of David.

"i will never convince you you will never convince me!"
What an unreasonable thing to say. How will I not be convinced by reason?
If you have something reasonable to say, if I am honest, I would hope that I would be convinced.

 

And Garvey disdained smoking dope.

 

How about we dont worry about man-gods and messiahs? How about we be our gods, and let nature be our Mother.

I worship my ancestors gods, who lots of which were people, have their own myths, etc. But its wheat with the chaif, i dont believe the mythos to be fact.

You want to be one with nature? forget rasta, forget Salassie, take off your shoes, take a walk in the woods, and see where our gods really are.

 

Of course Garvey disdained smoking...so does any rasta, if kaya isn't smoked in combination with nyabinghi, or used as a sacrement...and i would love for you to show me using the bible how mary came from king david's line...

 

Mary was Josephs cousin.

 

Was Selassie not the returned Messiah? Therefore both he and Jesus would be the Messiah right?

I read a about Rita Marley, said she converted after she was the scars on his hands.

I know its not all about long hair and dreads. Hell, my locks are part of my faith, they are each a prayer. I only have three large ones, lots of mini ones, it all comes from my being natural. I dont brush or wash it, so it naps up. But the bigger ones are specific prayers. I like bob marley, nag champa smells good, but i dont like the ethiopian flag SO i guess no rasta for me.

Oh yeah, an i am white!

I have a very Eurocentric faith, which is wrong im sure, since we arent allowed. But how is it, that "hippies" adopt such a racist religion as rasta?

I believe all people should be most proud of their race and cultures, but not to the point of putting others down. We are all from beautiful roots, and every one of us have had our struggles.

Thats one love, not rasta.

 

If you have to ask if you can believe in something, then you probably don't believe in it anyway

 

Heron, I'm not even sure that we are talking about the same thing anymore...I believe that you are attacking something that my husband believes extremely strong, and, while i understand that it's a free speech forum, i'm not sure that it's right to pu down someone's believes, just like crusaders or any other form of religious right wing nut cases...

And as far as Mary being joseph's cousin, i'm not sure that it ever stated this, much less does it prove that she is from the same linage as david or solomon...

just a thought...this will be my last post in this thread, as i don't believe that it's even over the topic anymore!

 

if joseph was from davids line, then natural his fathers brothers daughter would be too.

I am not attacking anything, i was well within thread topic on all of my comments.

I can put down what ever i want btw, if I find it retarded, i say so. What is more retarded that having your whole spiritual life and apparently fashion choices come from something not of your own. Why get the etiopian flag tattooed, when we have our own histories. Just a question. Its not fair to the culture you steal from, and disrespectful to the people of the religion, the black ones that is.

 

google it.

 

Yes

 

A revolution of the mind

 

So everyone should now agree you do have to be black to be a rasta. Because you really do.

 

so i think u should stop the fuss....seriously..is eithr one of u here black.....or at least from africa...or JA....c'mon people....think about this.....what about the white jamaicans that lived there between black people and between Rastas?huh?what do u think of them.....how do they look in the eyes of a "true Rasta"?



irie ital itation.

 

Jamaica and rasta are different things man, just because you are white and live in jamaica doesnt make you a part of it. If anything, it makes you part of the problem because the whites were the ones oppressing them. So if you were white Jamaican natively, then youre the bad guy, if you moved there just to live in jamaica and be rasta, then you have problems.

I think that whites have just as much right to bitch about whites being rasta as blacks do. It is a shame to see someone support and believe in something that is actually against them. White people who want something like that should explore their own roots rather than usurping anothers.

 

Heron is a wise man.. we should all listen to what he has to say because truly, it makes sence.

 

Tru dat