microwave ovens

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by paulfreespirit, May 28, 2006.

  1. fat_tony

    fat_tony Member

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    How can they possibly be bad for the environment? I guess they could be inefficient.
     
  2. toni

    toni Banned

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    You are supposed to say ''No i have not heard that''

    My response would be ''neither have i''

    I'll get my coat.

    The only serious point i could raise is: Do they use lots of energy ?. I have no idea.
     
  3. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I don't think so...my boyfriend's mom got one as her Christmas present from his dad and they live in a single-wide trailor and it doesn't really mess with energy anymore than a regular microwave.
     
  4. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Because they heat the food internally, with little to no wasted heat, they are far MORE energy efficient than a standard gas or electric oven (no conductive or convective heat loss). And the much shorter cooking time saves even MORE energy...
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Microwaves zap all nutrients from food. Eating nuked food is out of synch with the body. This is why I don't microwave anything anymore. Wasting energy with a conventional oven is better than eating food that has been radiated.
     
  6. MikeE

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    Nonesence!! Microwaves do not affect the chemical composition of food. All the bio-chemicals (aka nutriants) are the same regardless of how the food is heated.

    I think you should keep cooking and eating in a way that works for you, but microwaves are not "evil magic" that ruin food.
     
  7. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Don't you know that questioning anything that Rat spouts off makes you an agent of the Reptilian Illuminati/Mossad Mind-Control Conspiracy? :)

    He doesn't have to actually EXPLAIN what nutrients are "zapped", or what chemical changes the food allegedly undergoes. That would be exactly what "they" WANT him to do, and he's FAR too smart to fall for that trick....:rolleyes:
     
  8. MikeE

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    So, am I supposed to use my mind to control the Reptilian Illuminati, or are they controling me or am I a Hassidic Illuminated Reptile who controls the minds of the conspiritors.

    (Its all so confusing)
     
  9. fat_tony

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    Reptilian Illuminati? Thats the best name for a conspiracy theory ive ever heard, im sold.
     
  10. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you....:)

    An "illuminated reptile", huh? You been stuffing iguanas into your microwave again?
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's common knowledge that microwave ovens rob food of vital nutrients. But, if you're an erudite pseudo-intellectual who takes everything written in Popular Mechanics as gospel, swallowing everything sold by the establishment "experts," without question, you might actually believe that microwaved food is healthy for you.

    Just like vaccines and fluoridated water are "healthy" and "good" for you, too, right? After all, the loving government says so. The FDA wouldn't allow something to be injected into the body if it wasn't safe, right?

    And who said anything about reptilians? I don't buy into that shit, so why are you trying to smear and discredit me with it? Not everyone who thinks critically, questioning the obvious health concerns regarding microwaved food, believes reptiles rule the world.

    Get over yourself already.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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  13. Josh_the_Small

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    I disagree. I'm convinced microwaves are evil magic because not once have I been able to make something desireable come out of it that didn't become stone cold after two minutes. And I always fuck up trying to defrost stuff with it and I just hate microwaves.
    I hate microwaves and microwaves hate me and if it were up to me they'd be banned from everywhere and it'd be my job to demolish every single one.
    It wouldn't suprise me one bit if they took all the nutrients out of food just in an attempt to kill me.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Nooooo, microwaves don't alter the molecular properties of a substance:

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    But pay no attention to the pictures because Mike and Ellis have all the answers. Ellis in particular must know for certain because he coaches 14 yr. olds on how to take psychedelics over the internet. He can tell them how much Coricidin they can take without having their eyes bleed. He is the almighty moderator of an internet forum designed for teens, lowlifes, mental midgets and other malcontents suffering from arrested development. He is a true expert. He not only has brains, but a fuck of a lot of class and common sense, too. He is a true, first-class kind of guy. He is my hero.
     
  15. mystik_lilac

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    I don't know about the health issues...but I know that microwaved food sucks in comparrison to oven baked food or stove top.


    My microwave went out 4 years ago, and at that time I was too broke to get a new one, lol. Then I just got used to not using it. Now I can afford one...but have no need for one. There's nothing I can make in the microwave that I can't make on the stove or oven.

    :)
     
  16. fat_tony

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    Why has the dead plant had the stalks cut off? I dont mean to question the reliability (ok maybe a little) but ive yet to see a nutrition deficiency that causes the stalks to suffer clean cuts, though id call it scissoritis. The couple of stalks it does have dont seem wilted to me, its just theres only has two of them. So what your saying that that microwaved water causes some stalks to spontaneously fall off while others remain completely unaffected until they disappear also. A conspiracy theory is forming in my mind involving scissors and maybe aliens who knos. Ill feel more comfortable when the results of the analysis on the water are in.

    Incidentally I agree microwaves do give crap results and the food is invaribale soggy. I only really use mine for veg as it far quicker than the stove and at 700W im guessing efficient, also reheating.
     
  17. shaggie

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  18. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Since he just posted photos (from rense.com, of course), and not a complete writeup of the methodology of the experiment, there are all kinds of unanswered questions here.

    Personally, given the reliability of anything from Rense, I have to wonder if the microwaved water was allowed to return to room temperature before being poured on the plants, or was it near boiling? :)

    Notice that the 2 plants are labeled "microwaved water" and "purified water". This implies that the microwaved water has NOT been "purified". A controlled experiment would use the SAME water for both plants, microwaving half of it before use. If they didn't do this, the experiment had no control, and is meaningless. If they are using microwaved tap water vs. purified water, how are we to know if the microwaving caused the results seen, or something else in the "microwaved" water?

    When the water was microwaved, how hot was it allowed to get, and for how long? If it was allowed to boil for a long time, that would have driven out any dissolved gases, possibly resulting in a strange outcome. A proper control here would have been to heat the "purified" water to the same temperature/time using a "conventional" method, leaving microwave exposure as the only variable.

    Were the 2 plants given identical amounts of water? The microwave plant's soil looks to be a bit darker in most of the shots, possibly indicating overwatering. Were the 2 plants watered on a strict schedule (whether they needed it or not), or only when the soil started to become dry?

    Also missing is any kind of chemical analysis of the water and soil used on the 2 plants. Rat seems to be claiming some kind of "molecular change" took place in the microwaved water. If that was true, then the "changed" molecules wouldn't be water anymore, and should show up clearly by chemical analysis.

    And as you mentioned, the apparent aggressive pruning of one plant destroys any credibility by introducing yet another uncontrolled variable into the experiment. :rolleyes: And the N=1 sample size leaves quite a bit to be desired, as well. What's to say the one plant didn't simply die from transplant shock or whatever?
     
  19. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    wahahaha thats the best line ive read tonight!
    haha.

    great.
     
  20. toni

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    Thankyou for your time and information.:)
     

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