hydrocodone & ADD- Do you experience Both?

Question: Does anyone feel like popping a Hydro makes your ADD problems better?

Now seriously, I understand that pills will make anything feel better....... But I feel like when I pop one I get better results from that then I do from the "Rid" my Doctor writes me. Does this make sense?

 

not really...

 

yes, it calms you down. from being hyperactive, and hyperactive thoughts. it relaxes you and slows down those hyper thoughts... i dont know...


makes sense to me!

 

doesnt amphets calm ADD people down though? like it does the opposite?

 

honestly, there is no such thing as A.D.D


a certain amount of amphetamine will "calm" anyone down. it clears the head of thought, you could just sit there like a zombie...

there is no physical test for a.d.d
its merely a personality or "disobediance"... or some shit...
theres alot that could be said about this, though i cant be screwed. there are plenty of sites that back up my idea...

 

amphetamines "can" make you kind and generous and like a different person around the house. turning bad behaviour into good behaviour.., it just affects the dopamine reward system or some shit.
thus making people happy and more willing to be good , i guesss....
"its a great drug, now aint it....!!

 

sorry peter, but you mustnt know anyone with real add. not everyone diagnosed with add really has add. ritalin does not calm normal brains down. neither do other stimulants. it just aint gonna happen. it DOES calm people with real ADD. in a completely different way to opiates.

the key point here is that HYPERACTIVITY is due to an UNDERACTIVE mind, not an overactive one. sounds paradoxial, but hyperactivity has been shown to be caused by the inability of a hyperactive mind to maintain concentration strings, and thus the mind wanders frantically looking for new stimuli, and forgetting about a lot of the things one must take heed of, leading hyperactive kids to be particularly naughty and reckless.

however, there really are probably a variety of different types of brains that can result in being psychiatrically diagnosed with ADD (regardless if you have an actual physiological difference or not).

a friend of mine who has add has smoked ICE with me and it didnt speed him up.

 

Of course there is. Many physical illnesses have no physical test for them. Most pain has no physical test. That means pain doesn't exist? Deprssion has no physical test. Does that mean it doesn't exist? A lot of conditions have no physical tests. They may in the future, but not now. It doesn't mean they don't exist.

ADD and ADHD are neurological conditions, which can be severe or mild. Some people do better on meds, (either newer drugs like the non stimulant drugs, or older stimulant drugs, or antidepressants) others do better with strategies to help organize themselves and therapy. IMO, (as someone who has two kids with ADHD and one with ADD and a dh with ADHD) everyone who had ADD of any type does better with therapy, whether they are taking medciation or not.

Opiates make you feel better from almost anything. But, this won't last long. There are better treatments for ADHD.

 

I was diagnosed and i can tell you, it does exist. when i was younger i was off the wall, and it wasn't just being a kid, my mind would just wander and i really COULDN"T pay attention in classes. i have been on amphetamines since i was in about first grade, and i must say they do contribute to helping me pay better attention and stay focused.

 

im sure they do help you concentrate, as thats what they do... to anyone...


but there have been alot of studies about a.d.d, Food colouring and food additives, just plain disipline and behavioural problems...

a.d.d isnt somthing that used to exist, its a pretty new thing, with more and more kids being diagnosed every year...

sorry, but i just dont beleive it is a disorder...
just like obesisty isnt a disorder, (or is it?) it probably soon will be...

 

then you simply havnt met and taken drugs with someone who has real ADD.

did you know that some people actually have physical reasons for their obesity? that some people's metabolisms specialise in making their body grow fat? a real disorder! but heaps of people are fat simply because they are eating too much and being greedy. most obese people fall into the latter category, and do not have a physical disorder. but does that mean there ISNT an obesity disorder? no
and just because its fashionable to diagnose kids with ADD just because theyve grown up in a fast changing, unstrict society and are disobediant and lazy, DOESNT mean that there arent kids who actually have a physical problem leading to different metabolisms in the brain

 

I think opiates such as hydrocodone can help someone with ADD, but only in certain situations. It makes a person satisfied, so for someone with ADD they should have less of an urge to to be all over the place. It makes simple converstion easier. Desire/wanting is blunted, the mind isn't vectoring off topic. But the mind may drift as one becomes more and more relaxed. The problem is that higher brain functioning is decreased. Activities more sophisticated than scratching your nuts are often very challenging. In all seriousness a small amount of opioid agonist in combination with a stimulant medication is an under studied combination.

 

My roommate last term in college was told he had ADD during winter break, took adderall everyday since then. During fall term he took adderall to study (bought it from people, this was before he had ADD, or was told too) and he got like 98's on his tests. Then... after he was told he had it he started taking it everyday it kinda had a different effect, he'd sit at the computer endlessly "studying" when he kept wandering off doing other things on the computer, but he was always "studying" if you asked him...

I tried it after he got his 98's in fall term, I liked it and was going to try to get diagnosed with ADHD just for the adderall and take it when I need to study, there's no way I'd take it everyday now seeing what it did to him haha

p.s. ever hear of redline? Strong energy drink from GNC, makes me go crazy... try mixing a full one of those (they warn you to drink half at a time, but too many energy drinks make me need a full one) and a ritalin (I hate spelling this, I do it different everytime; never looked up how to) it was so weird, kind of like a calmer adderall with a shitty crash at the end, it was fun though and helped me get some projects done

 

A disorder isn't like the tooth fairy, it is not something you believe in or don't believe in, it is something that is outside of the norm, a cohert of symptoms, phenotypic expression, or behavioral manifestation.

Whether or not persons with ADD respond to stimulants differently than others is still debated, to me it is logical that they do, just as persons with bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia respond differently to stimulants than do "non-disordered" people. Genetic studies have recently determined some of the molecular differences that may account for differential drug action in persons with ADD and schizophrenia (among others).

 

I like lorcet. I dont know if I have add.

 

mmmm yum... ice.

 

I thought vicodin along with percocet were made from Thebaine, one opiate prodcued with morphine and codeine, and Thebaine actually gives you a speedy, talkitive, euphoric feeling. It calms you down after the initial high wears off and you get relaxed, but taking enough of them without getting sick will make you VERY active.

 

oxycodone comes from morphine. hydrocodone i am not so sure of, I think it is a derivative of codeine.

 

Oxycodone is a very powerful and potentially addicting opioid analgesic medication synthesized from thebaine.

I got that from Wiki, dont know if theyre always right, but the feeling they give you tends to lead me to belive it's true. As far as Vic's Im not sure

 

I am not sure of the synthetic route to hydrocodone or oxycodone but it doesn't really matter to the results of the finished drug molecule. Thebaine is found in the poppy/opium so you won't get any effect from it unless you are smoking raw opium.