Eurovision!!!!

Discussion in 'Europe' started by passanger, May 22, 2006.

  1. passanger

    passanger Member

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    Come on people, comment!!!
    Croatia sucked this year, we got ever higher than I expected. But the winner is cool :)
     
  2. *ariana*

    *ariana* Member

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    yeah, I thought that song was pretty cool, too.
    but I thought germany wasn't that bad, there were many countries that were worse but got higher... and it was so unfair that all those eastern countries and the northern ones supported each other...;)
    well, I think our singer sang really good, but of course the song had nothing to do with Germany...:D
    can't remember what croatia did at the moment...
    but I think Latvia was the worst - it just sounded so horrible!! :) and france was kinda boring, don't you think?!
     
  3. satirul

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    i felt like a soccer fan seeing his low ranking favourite team winning the championship.i was jumping around the house like a madman.i thought my friends were bullshiting me when they told me lordi got in eurovision.
    lordi fucking rules!!!!!
    i voted for them and i would have voted for them even if i was allowed to vote for my own country.mihai traistariu and his 5 octave voice suck big time.
     
  4. satirul

    satirul Member

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    the funniest moments were when those guys sang "we are the winners" and when lordi unfolded his wings and our comunist fossil of a presenter made scandalised comments about the grotesque entering eurovision.
     
  5. lucy_diamond

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    neither i expected severina to win.

    but, i still don't like the winners. :p
     
  6. zinka

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    The bosnian song is the best! I'm sorry they didn't win...lordi is ok, nothing more.
     
  7. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    But didn't Lordi win because all the roleplayers throughout Europe agreed to vote at them? That's the theory I heard, and despite it's just a theory it seems quite plausible...

    All the ordinary performers lose, because those who usually vote at them haven't got any form of social network, in difference to (for instance) roleplayers.
    Fans of ordinary performers are quite isolated - To them Eurovision is a matter between themselves, their phone, and their television.

    So it's a contest on whom audience are having the strongest, broadest, and most well-integrated social networks (in case the theory is valid), isn't it?

    -wolf-
     
  8. *ariana*

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    no, I don't believe in this conspiracy theory stuff...

    I think Lordi won because the band had already been known before the contest...they're pretty famous actually...
    they performance was just- somewhat different, a little crazy, but still not bad. I don't think it is surprising that people like something like that better than a rather inconspicuous ballade, they don't forget the song cause it just sticks out -in a positive way
     
  9. satirul

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    i thought lordi was some obscure band from finland.around here,aside from me and 3-4 friends of mine (and no,we're not roleplayers),nobody heard of them before eurovision.i didn't thought roleplayers are so numerous to have such an impact in a contest the magnitude of eurovision.i'd say lordi were known before EV in the metalhead scene,not in the mainstream.

    and i agree that most people voted because lordi stood out of the ordinary.
     
  10. morcheeba

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    I'm glad that finally a different song won.
     
  11. Ginger Ali

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    You wouldn't believe how big this is for us finns!! Our musical self-esteem has been so low over decades (well in eurovision context at any rate) so to win like this is just... well, probably the biggest thing that's happened since Finland's independece! There was a huge Lordi-tribute back home in Helsinki last night with almost 100 000 people, including the president, celebrating our handsome heroes!!
     
  12. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Oh, no, no, *ariana* and satirul. That's not what I meant, my friends. :)

    I think it's cool that Lordi won, despite it's not my kind of music. Actually I was just wondering over how great it is that if there are existing some social networks, so integrated that they blow up all those boundaries that the traditional idea of Eurovision mirror, so that it can overrule the usually national way of thinking in Eurovision.

    No, it's true, satirul, that roleplayers are not so numerous themselves, but if they actually agreed on voting Lordi, their few numbers overrule the traditional viewers of Eurovision anyhow. And don't forget that roleplayers have large networks that reach out of their own sphere too - especially to metal-fans, etc...

    To me it's not a matter of what Lordi am or what, but rather that it's symbolyzing a force that break into an oldfashioned structure as the usually national-mentality-based Eurovision is. And that's so cool.

    And, no ofcourse not all who voted at Lordi are roleplayers (ofcourse many people voted at them because they simply liked their tune better than the others), but if the theory I mentioned is right, Lordis victory was conditoned by a network superior to traditional national thinking, and that's really, really cool. :)

    The theory I suggested is simply not a conspiracy-theory. Conspiracies are always made by people in power, and I strongly doubt that mr. Lordi are in power or that the people who voted Lordi are representing people in power!

    love and understanding,
    -wolf-
     
  13. satirul

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    well,people in power could have had something to say.to keep the people relaxed,you have to give them "bread and circus".lordi make great shows=circus.and some of the most unsettled people are not in the mainstream.
    yeah,i don't belive it myself.

    well,with the european union and the schengen space things,i can see europe getting over national issues and unifying;with the internet the forming of social networks transgressing national barriers is not so surprizing.
     
  14. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Yes, I certainly believe that we witness some good unifying forces in Europe, but I think it's an illusion to believe that this unifying force is integrated in the EU and the Schengen-deal.

    What we witness in our age is a force so powerful that it will someday tear down all these walls as we still consider to be natural - such as boundaries (boundaries is in fact a really obscure idea, isn't it?).
    Social networks tear down all these artificial structures, and now we see this necessary battle taking place in the western cultural core institution - the television - and I wish this battle welcome...

    I feel like the bottom is rising these days, and so many exciting things are taking place from the bottom. All progressive politics are everywhere people let it take shape - in the office, in the school, at the factory - and altogether it will gather in the streets.
    If you want to take a health-check on a nation, go to the streets to check the level of political activity...

    Lordi is a symptom that a new form of networks are developing right now. And EU - that is basically a hierarchy - know to handle this new situation just as bad as the old european national states do.
    What a pity that most of the people living in east-european countries support their governments wish to join the EU instead to see alternatives and start develop alternative anti-systemic ways of organization that are neither capitalist, nor communist.
    I'm so afraid that huge parts of the populations in the east are canalizing all their free choices into a government that is more eager to join the economic-growth-merry-go-round than to develop political visions that benefit all, and I fear that all of us someday forget that we actually owe our society, and it's up to us what to do with it... :-/

    But I see your point that Lordi thereby must take the "circus"-role, and that's a good point, that I will spend some time to reflect upon... :)

    love and understanding,
    -wolf-
     
  15. Ann-Akim

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    I'm glad for lovely finns, but Russia is the best this year obviously. Also thanx to Moldova (mulţumesc!!), Estonia and Sweden
     
  16. Spacer

    Spacer 'Enlighten yourself'

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    The Eurovision is terrible, terrible, terrible. It's so cheesy and kitch it's unreal. There has never been a good song on it before. I used to be embarrased before when Ireland won it a few years in a row.
     
  17. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    I didn't watch it, but I heard all about LORDI. Go on FINLAND!
     
  18. DevilSaNgel

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    Next year I will pack my stuff to rock in Helsinki.
     

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