am I going to hell?

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A lot of people do things to you that aren't Christian (and me too). Just be sorry for what you did and God will forgive you. That's His business to do that. Everybody makes mistakes. Nobody should shun you for being pregnant. That's not Christian. They should do whatever they can to help you instead. The Christians I know, that's exactly what they do-help girls that are pregnant, not condemn them. God loves you and knows that you're remorseful about it-He knows who cares and who doesn't. Don't worry, girl, ok? I can tell you've got a good heart, and God knows that too.

 

no, you're not going to hell because hell is just a place made up by the Catholic church to scare little children into being good little Johnnys and Janes. Hell is only there to frighten you into believing in something unreal. The devil, Satan, Lucipher, whatever..it's all scare tactics, and it worked, for thousands of years, but i personally don't believe in any of that bullshit so don't worry about it.

 

Hell isn't a place for dead people to go if they were bad, that's just plain silly! Where do people come up with such funniness?

Hell is a state of mind. It's the persecution we live with, which comes from others and ourselves. Mostly ourselves, because we can rise above it even in harsh environments. Find your center, that silent place within which is peace, and you find heaven. Cuz heaven is also not a place for dead people.

Oh, and this: forgiveness from "god" begins with forgiving yourself. Don't beat yourself up, that's masochistic and unnecessary. The world is hard enough to us without us doing it ourselves

 

I'm with TrippinBTM.

Personally, I do believe that we make our own "hell", by dwelling on mistakes we've made in the past. I also think that mistakes are necessary.

Forget the concept of heaven and hell for a moment, and remember where you are right now...you are alive! Learning from our mistakes is what life is all about.

The result of dwelling over the past, is that your future will pass you by.

You're still only young, and have much of a future ahead of you. Don't waste it by dwelling on the past! What's done is done, and can't be changed now. As Trippin said, you need to forgive yourself, and find the strength to move on with your life.

Much love and light,
Kaye

 

in my own opinion, no one deserves hell. and your story made me sad. that is so horriable! women have just been repressed throughout the centuries, socially and sexually. your most certainly not a whore, and you did what you had to do. your boyfriend was and is a complete asshole. i'm not sure exactly what you beleive, but, you could think of it like this. what happened to you has made you a stronger person. you have overcome things that most people never have to deal with. a good, just god would never condemn you. but, if for some reason, this almighty god just can't find a way of forgiving you, would you really want to spend the rest of eternity with him anyway?

 

Hare Krishna !


Dear Jenny,

Let that much peace and love be for all including your sick boyfriend(Ex) and your father. Please calm down and come out of that unfortunate shock. Nobody on this earth decides who will go to the heaven and who to the hell.

Glory to him or her who comes to a grief and compunction for the wrong-doings. When I place myself in place of your father I feel his decisions and remarks were utterly wrong and unfortunate.

Jenny, dear, on behalf of your father, boy-friend and all men folks I extend my sincere apology. Please forgive and look forward in life, learn from your mistakes and never think you are a destitute child destined for the hell. That is utter rubbish ! Everybody may leave us but not our God. Take a good look at Him (Lord Jesus or your favourite name) you will find there is only heaven of bliss that He has for us. Hell is the pit that we only dig to slip into it and get buried.

With lots of love and best wishes,

Kumar.

 

Another vote of "no Hell" for Jenny.

 

as others have stated, hell is an idea to get people to act, or not act in a certian manner. for even though your becoming pregnant from a catholic viewpoint is "evil" in other cultures it is to be celebrated. depending on how things work out in a religious sense it has happened nothing will change it, yet how it impacts the world from now on is for you to decide, whether you want to live with it as a negetive or positive feeling. dont let organized religions impose their thoughts upon you, take a step back and think "do i really believe or think this way?" i think that in some way we maintain a balance between order and chaos by our unconsious actions, so i dont believe one lifestyle (order or "good" or chaotic "evil") is ever more influential than the other, things just happen, how they are interpereted is all up to you.

 

lol. i like your "insane" spirit. yeah, maybe after i leave this brutal world, i will meet really sweet folks like: janis joplin, sylvia plath, diane arbus, marilyn monroe, james dean, and a bunch of other so-called "sinners", huh? thanks for all your sweet words.

much peace and love,

jenny

 

thank you so much, charise! i know you are right. but it just helps me to hear/see it. make any sense? I guess all the catholic guilt i was exposed to since i was a child, is still haunting me a little bit? that's why your compassionate words mean so much to me! thanks again!

jenny

 

thank you for sharing that. i am finally starting to see just how true your wise words are? but it has taken me a long while. it's not so easy to let go of your religious upbringing? even when you get older? and you start to question the wisdom of it all? plus i guess i still have a few emotional scars? but kind people like you, are helping me to heal. and i am way grateful for that! thanks again!

much peace and love,

jenny

 

thank you for all your sweet words! honestly, i don't beat myself up as much as i used to? but an abortion is a way serious thing. and even though i was only 16, i can't help but be haunted by it. but i know what you mean. and i really do appreciate your wisdom and kindness. and i promise, i will soon learn to be as kind to myself, as i try to be to others? make any sense. i guess i just needed a little more time? to see the bigger picture more clearly? i thank you again.

much peace and love to you,

jenny

 

okay, i got a semi-starving kitty on my hands. plus one more paper to write for my classes (10 pages!), then i am as free as a bird! lol. so i promise to respond to the rest of these awesome comments ASAP. and i thank you all again for not judging me. this place is the coolest!

much peace and love to you all,

jenny

 

I seriously doubt that any of your relatives or church members have an advance copy of god's little black book. They dont know who's going to heaven or hell.

Paul murdered christians and the bible pretty well implies that the guy is in heaven right now. I don't suppose you have anything to worry about. I'd worry about the christians that are doing all the damning, if you're going to worry about it at all.

 

i would say difinatively no to the origeonal question, if there were anything definative about it. i don't see any condition as any more likely to be eternal then our own present existence.

there IS such a thing kharma. this is largely however, that if we cause suffering, there is more suffering arround, and if there's more suffering arround, we are more likely ourselves to experience it.

i also don't see any certainty of suffering having been caused. if it was then there is that. if it wasn't then there wasn't.

whatever judgement anyone else might presume to pass.
and their doing so is of no direct pertinance.
only the causing and the avoidance of causing suffering is.

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If you go to hell then hell must be for the good people.

 

well I am of the opinion that you can always ask God to forgive ya.

 

I'm sorry to tell you but Christianity is wrong. There is no God who will cast judgement on you, and There is no hell, and you are not going to go there for having 1 night of unprotected sex, and having an abortion.

You're father is a horrible man for kicking you out of the house and calling you a whore. His christian ways have distorted his own judgement.

You are not a horrible person for having an abortion. It's what was appropriate at the time, you couldn't afford to take care of the child.

I assume you went to a Christian school, if not, my bad. But all of the boys who asked for sexual favors are just as horrible as your father. And your boyfriend is a coward for backing out of the relationship.

The only thing that is important is to live your life. You can only move on. And you don't have to ask for forgiveness from anyone, because who are they to pass judgement on you.