Seriously. Now feel your heartbeat. Now focus on your breathing. Now feel your hand without touching it, just feel it existing. Now think about who's intent it is that your hand feels as it does, that you are able to move it as it is. Now think about this: is any being seperate from its intent? Now look at your hand. Now feel your heartbeat. Ask yourself: who is making me feel this way? Whose intent shapes my body (besides my volitional movements)? Who is closer than a brother? ... well...
Who's intent that my hand feels as it does, that it's able to move as it can? ... #1 does there have to be someone who willed it to happen? ... #2 does it matter, even if someone did will it to happen, they obviously don't give a flying crap about the world because they just let it all turn to poo.
There is. Does there have to be? I don't know if that question is valid since there is someone doing it. Now you're just being negative. Hey, do a search in google trends to see who does the most searches for poop. It's funny (check the regions tab, instead of the cities tab). Ohh, and then do the trend thing for sex (the regions tab once again). Both are silly.
Whose intent shaped your body? Why does there need to be an intent? Are intentions involved when a river shapes a rock in it's path? You are adding the supernatural where the natural is a suffecient answer...
Careful the way you phrase your questions, Shane. Kharakov can easily answer "yes" to this question and say that it's God's will.
I think the one whose intent has molded your being has to show you. Not really. Depends on what God's done to me recently, what God's brought to my attention. Sometimes I am pissed about my life, sometimes I am grateful, sometimes I am in pain, sometimes I feel great. Probably pretty hard to herd a simple spirit like a horse without a little bit of pain to train it to respond correctly. Our souls are a little bit more complicated... I'm not always happy being lead because sometimes I want to go in a direction that God doesn't want me to go. Then God breaks out the pain if I keep trying to go in that direction. Sometimes I feel pain because I feel like I can't go do something I like (and I know others are doing it), which makes me resent God (which is ignorant, but sometimes I do it anyways). I just want to have fun.
God's. That's a confusing question. There is intent. It's there. Need is what drives it- they are so closely related (need and intent) that the different words are almost different ways of looking at the same thing. Thoughts? God's intent is. There might be others (like a beaver's dam altering the flow of the river), but other intents are molded by God's intent. It is supernatural. The natural method of explaining things just breaks the supernatural into many units to present it in understandable terms. "The sky is blue and white outside my window" hardly touches what is going on in the sky outside my window. Pointing to the sky only draws attention towards one manifestation of God's intent.
Can you ask him to then? I've asked him to before, for years, and nothing ever came of it. In your opinion, is it unreasonable to not believe that there is no intent, and to not believe you when you say there is intent, when neither you nor that intent intend to show me that there is intent? Lol what'd I tell you he'd say shane?
Don't you believe that all your intentions are simply God's intentions? How come the beaver can have it's own intentions but humans and rivers don't? And if I'm wrong, and you instead believe that we do have SOME of our own intentions and the rest are God's, then how do you tell the two apart? You say sometimes you resent God: how do you know whether God intends for you to resent him, or whether it's your own intention/feeling? Are you a pantheist or panentheist or something similar? Are we one with God? Or are we seperate? Do we have souls but no volition, such that God pushes us around for some secret purpose of his own and we just go along for the ride and perhaps an education? If we do have our own intentions, why don't they agree with God's? Sorry for all the questions, I just want to understand your views.
Yeah, but God won't change God's plan for you because I asked God. God is all about doing things meticulously. Rofl!!! Yes, it is unreasonable to not believe that there is no intent. He knows me well.
No. Humans do. I don't know about rivers, I am not a river. I tend to think of them as just God, with whatever life forms God forms within them. Your intents are what you want to do. God's intent is what God allows you to do, and a whole bunch of other stuff (like guiding your intent into you wanting a chicken mcnugget, or making you feel like going for a sunday drive, or anything God leads you into- God's intent is a little like a humongous flowing river and yours is like a little bity amoeba that propels itself like a jellyfish- but in scale God's is bigger than any river, and yours is smaller than any amoeba, and God's intent is very exact- meticulously formed). Like, you can try and run a 4 minute mile without practice, but I kinda doubt God will let you. I resent God when I feel like I can't take what God is doing to me. Picture a horses intent. Its intent is molded by its rider. I don't know. But I tried to look up panentheist on dictionary.com and it said: And with God's sense of humor, I'm inclined to think I must be. Yes. No. We are souls with volition. God pushes us around and molds our volition though. You've never trained a dog, but trust me, a beings volition can be molded. Probably because we don't know as much as God, we can't see all the outcomes like God, etc. That's all right, you asked good questions.
