um, this may be a dumb question but...

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  1. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    ok, don't laugh...

    what's the difference between catsup and ketchup?
     
  2. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    i guess maybe catsup can be made from apples or pears, but ketchup is made from tomatos
     
  3. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    The spelling.
     
  4. starduster

    starduster Member

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    I found this i guess no real differnce


    KETCHUP: Also catchup, Catsup. A condiment consisting of a thick,
    smooth-textured, spicy sauce usually made from tomatoes.[Probably
    Malay kechap, fish sauce possibly from Chinese (Cantonese) ke-tsiap]

    Notes: The word ketchup exemplifies the types of modifications that
    can take place in the borrowing process, both in the borrowing of a
    word and in the borrowing of a substance. The source of our word
    ketchup may be the Malay word kechap, possibly taken into Malay from
    the Cantonese dialect of Chinese. Kechap, like our word, referred to
    a kind of sauce, but a sauce without tomatoes; rather, it contained
    fish brine, herbs, and spices. The sauce seems to have emigrated to
    Europe by way of sailors, where it was made with locally available
    ingredients such as the juice of mushrooms or walnuts. At some point,
    when the juice of tomatoes was first used, ketchup as we know it was
    born. However, it is important to realize that in the 18th and 19th
    centuries ketchup was a generic term for sauces whose only common
    ingredient was vinegar. The word is first recorded in English in 1690
    in the form catchup, in 1711 in the form ketchup, and in 1730 in the
    form catsup. These three spelling variants of a foreign borrowing
    remain current.
     
  5. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    ah, fascinating.


    thanks :)
     
  6. bird_migration

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    You probably mean ketchup and ketjap (kecap).
    Ketchup is usually made from tomatoes whilst ketjap is made from soja.

    'Kecap' (say ketjap) in the Malay language means soja.
     
  7. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    um, no I don't think that's what I mean, because I've never heard of ketjap before. Catsup and Ketchup. I figured it was the same thing but for some reason it was just weird in my head.
     
  8. AshtonsMom

    AshtonsMom Banned

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    bingo! :D
     
  9. bird_migration

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    In that case I am sorry.
     
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