Illegal Immigrants

Discussion in 'Protest' started by CrippleCreekFairy, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. Soberbeah

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  2. Last Stand

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    Not just Fla try the rest of the state as well . you were just lucky to go to a decent school with decent teachers "a rare thing in the U.S" Most history classes just teaches the very basic history of the U.S in books that were writen very recent or very old . both lack lots of content unless a good teacher that went out of his way to tells details that only a decent university would cover.
     
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    HEY.........WAY to go girl.....

    Man...I think i'm in love.............



     
  4. TimeForChange

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    Why don't we try this.... Let's find out what jobs the immigrants are "taking." Then we will raise the wage from not liveable to $10 an hour. Any jobs that aren't taken by americans we give to the immigrants instead. This will prove that they don't take jobs that americans want.
    Do you believe that illegal immigrants shouldn't have any health care treatment? So, no pre-natal care should be given. The first time this child will be looked at to see if it's ok should be when the birth is actually taking place?
    Personally, I think that health care should be provided to them. Let them have the jobs that nobody wants, somebody has to do it.
     
  5. Yoseff

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    Interesting idea

    As for the health care, I believe, no, illegal immigrants shouldn't recieve health care.

    However, the pre-natal issue is a good point.

    Perhaps they should take the time and effort to become legal immigrants?
     
  6. Jennasia

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    People WILL take those jobs if they are being offered fair wages for them. The reason illegals take these jobs is because independent business owners seek these people out who will work for pathethic wages, they are being paid under the table. Illegals have no choice but to take these jobs obviously because they are not allowed to work legally in our country.

    You really don't know which jobs the illegal immigrants are forced to take? Then you must not live among them.
     
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    ;-)
     
  8. JenX

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    I think I've heard that repeated or written more times than I can count over the past four years, and it still amazes me. The notion is, I believe, at best misinformed and misguided. At worst it's suicidal.


    Americans need to wake the fuck up. As for the Canadians and anyone else posting here with their .02, you don't now and won't ever understand.

    Most Americans are woefully uninformed on who, exactly, is coming to this country illegally and why.

    These are not people that would ordinarily pass the background checks, physical exams, and/or multi-level interviews USDOS requires of all legal applicants for a visa, of whom there are hundreds of thousands still waiting in Mexico. No, it is primarily Mexico's underclass and criminal class who are coming in record numbers, as well as the indolent.

    All of the periodical literature I've seen in the past year points to the fact that an ever-increasing number of illegal aliens do, indeed, have gainful employment and some measure of financial security in Mexico. They are not starving or oppressed, politically, religiously, or otherwise.

    It's simply that the American welfare state and all its entitlements represent a financial bonanza Mexicans do not have available to them there. In short, the American welfare state is an irrestible gravy train, and the majority in Mexico want to get in on the action.
    To the Canadian poster that ignorantly claimed we want to turn away "hungry Mexicans"--you are clueless. These people aren't missing any meals before and certainly not since they've been here--because they're on our tit. Not yours up in Canada.

    I do not subscribe to the belief that someone who is starving or otherwise oppressed - which, relative to people living in countries like Senegal, Sri Lanka, South Africa, and Bolivia, etc., most Mexicans are not - gives them a legal or moral pass to wantonly break another country's laws and take advantage of that country's misguided largesse. If that were so, then none among us would be justified in their anger over the assault or murder of a family member, so long as the reason for the violence was to obtain said loved one's ham sandwich and the perp was hungry. Please people, get real.

    Looking ahead, AMERICANS NEED TO REALIZE that the invasion of the U.S. will continue, and ultimately lead to the implosion of this country and its disappearance from the world stage, likely within the next decade - maybe sooner. Mexico remains strongly committed to exporting the worst elements of its society, and with U.S. government's corruption will continue to do so. All three major candidates for the Mexican Presidency have made "migrant's rights" central themes in their campaign platforms, and since remittances will pass petroleum as Mexico's chief source of revenue, Mexican sedition and interference with U.S. law and domestic policy will continue - and likely intensify. There is an agenda here, folks--don't fool yourself.

    Meanwhile, Americans remain emotionally and mentally paralyzed over what to do about the invasion. They are FAR more worried about being perceived as or thought of as "racist" than in recognizing the perilous threat before them and dealing with it assertively and aggressively, as should be done. This terminally flawed thinking will continue until events pass the point of no return. There are too many perpetuated stereotypes of the illegal alien as "hard-working" and possessing "strong family values" which are accepted as fact by most Americans, even when the evidence and law enforcement statistics speak strongly to the contrary, which just paralyzes us all even more in our ignorance about this issue. Like an advanced form of cancer, the unrealistic idea of multiculturalism is almost too strong to remove from the infected psyche.



    WE ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE PROTESTING.
    DEMAND YOUR GOVERNMENT ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS!!!

    ETA: I'm stunned at the ignorance of posters as well as the PROtesters demanding that illegals receive "education and healthcare". Because we already do that for AMERICANS, right???



     
  9. Yoseff

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    ^^^
    YAAAY!
    Seriously
     
  10. spooner

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    wow. instead of posting paragraph after useless paragraph, you could have just said:

    most illegal mexican immigrants aren't refugees, they're economic migrants.
     
  11. JenX

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    No spooner, they're criminals. Know the difference.
    If you aren't articulate enough to write in paragraphs, that's your problem.
     
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    KEY WEST -- The mock Conch Republic on Friday ``annexed'' an abandoned bridge in the Florida Keys that the federal government ruled was not U.S. territory when 15 Cubans landed there last week.

    Members of the republic, established in 1982 by disgruntled Florida Keys residents as a tongue-in-cheek protest over U.S. Border Patrol checkpoints, planted flags along the section of the bridge where the Cubans landed and said they hoped to use it for affordable housing.

    Self-appointed Republic of Conch Secretary General Peter Anderson said he planned to offer 50-foot sections of the structure to those who want to build eco-friendly ``bridge-shacks.''

    ``Since the federal government decided in its infinite wisdom that the old Seven Mile Bridge is not territory of the United States, the Conch Republic is very interested,'' Anderson said.

    Anderson -- who authorizes Conch Republic birth certificates to all babies born in the Keys -- said the group met no resistance. ``They chose not to defend it,'' he said.
     
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    KEY WEST - The mock Conch Republic on Friday "annexed" an abandoned bridge in the Florida Keys that the federal government ruled was not U.S. territory when 15 Cubans landed there last week.

    Members of the republic, established in 1982 by disgruntled Florida Keys residents as a tongue-in-cheek protest over U.S. Border Patrol checkpoints, planted flags along the section of the bridge where the Cubans landed and said they hoped to use it for affordable housing.

    Self-appointed Republic of Conch Secretary-General Peter Anderson said he planned to offer 50-foot sections of the structure to those who want to build environmentally friendly "bridge-shacks."

    "Since the federal government decided in its infinite wisdom that the old Seven Mile Bridge is not territory of the United States, the Conch Republic is very interested," Anderson said.

    Anderson - who sells Conch Republic passports in the Keys - said the group met no resistance on the bridge.

    "They chose not to defend it," he said of the bridge, owned by the Florida Department of Transportation.

    "With all due respect to the Conch Republic, the bridge belongs to all the people of Florida, and we're not currently in negotiations to sell it," said Russell Schweiss, a spokesman for Gov. Jeb Bush.

    Under the federal government's long-standing "wet-foot, dry-foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. soil are generally allowed to stay, while those stopped at sea are returned to the island.

    The government said it repatriated the Cubans who landed on Jan. 4 at the base of the historic bridge because the structure no longer connects to land.

    Anderson said at least half a dozen people have already expressed interest in the property.

    "It could be a model green community," he said, "with composting toilets, wind and solar power, rainwater collection, like living on a boat, really."
     
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    We can all pile up on this bridge smoke pot, trip on LSD , you name it after all is not part of the U.S . maybe we can grow some marijuana there . declare it a difrent country. make a new flag . buy a few old navy ship so we can protect the country "the bridge" from the U.S and D.E.A .
     
  15. sunshine and pearls

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    I thought i put in a parenthetical about not all tribes and nations had the same laws but the ones i'm familiar with.
    actually I think that there was a sort of ownership for certain tribes especially that had agricultural societies before european invasion. for instance the Iroquois tribes land and commerce was "owned" by women.
     
  16. Rev Van

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    Washington should stop it's bitching!

    If we don't want to have illegal aliens here in this country we, we should then do our very best to discover the reasons why they are coming here and then aid Mexico City in correcting those problems, remembering always that Mexico is a soverign nation. Only after the causes of illegal immigration are resolved will others stop coming here.

    However, if all the illegals were gone, who would the wealthy get to cut their grass???
     
  17. streamlight

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    Wow, so now we have to fix Mexico's problem to. Good plan buddy.
     
  18. Rev Van

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    Why not we caused it, but you don't have to worry about it though..., we can't even fix our own problems, both publlic and private.:p
     
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    how did we cause mexicos problems?
     
  20. streamlight

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    Yea, what problems has America caused in Mexico? Or are you just making up bullshit?
     

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