Out of touch with reality...

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by The Caterpillar, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. The Caterpillar

    The Caterpillar Member

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    So I have smoked an awful lot this past year, and lately, to be honest, I have been feeling really out of touch with reality. It may be that I'm smoking too much, may be that I just switched from mids to dank, or could be that I'm SO FUCKNG HIGH for 4:20 right now that I'm too high for my own good.

    But do you think that this is something that could be fixed, if I took a break for like a week or two, or more? Or could there be something permanent going on? I hope I'm just way too high right now...
     
  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    all things in moderation..

    luv n lite
     
  3. KyndVeggie4Peace

    KyndVeggie4Peace -[ in.bloom ]-

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    Yeah man, take a break. Let your tolorence go down ... Like hippiehillbilly said ... Moderation. :)
     
  4. MrCharlie

    MrCharlie Member

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    its like the day-after effect but built up longer
    take a break
     
  5. aesther

    aesther Member

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    i think that kind of question is not something you should ask.
    i think you should take a break, and see how you feel, rather to get the opinions of others on their experiences with the herb.

    you probably don't want to take a break...i'm assuming this from your post

    but i would because it would be to your own benefit and you can see for yourself if there is something permanent going on or not.
     
  6. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    whats the point of making a post and telling someone not to listen to it?
     
  7. The Caterpillar

    The Caterpillar Member

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    Alright, I'm back now, still a little out there but much more grounded now. I came to a few realizations tonight:

    1. Like it was said, moderation is key. I had actually been cutting back a lot lately, and it was becoming a more and more rewarding experience. However, we went all out today being 4/20, and I just got a little too high and freaked myself out a little bit too much. But I'm gonna go back to the moderation thing and try to stick to much less weed a week.

    2. I had been freaked out for a little bit about possibly becoming depersonalized(Here is a link I read one day about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization The part about marijuana possibly engendering it REALLY bugs me, but I hope I'm just freaking myself out, what do you guys think? Anyone know anything about it?). I think it's because I just haven't felt I had much purpose to life lately. Like I just can't seem to get too excited about anything
    Tonight while I was very high, I got out a journal and wrote down all my thoughts, and it seems that I traced it to about a month ago, when this girl that I used to be pretty close with had to leave college and go home. The second I left her house after saying goodbye, I just felt bored with life, like I didn't really get why I was here, etc.
    Does this sound more like I'm just kind of heartsick and lonely, rather than becoming depersonalized?

    3. A break from smoking altogether will probably do me some good. It's been this whole school year since I've gone much more than a week or so without smoking. It may be better to do now, but I was set to start a break as soon as college was over, which is why I'm kind of waiting it out. Although perhaps I should just break sooner. But I think a break will be good, even if it's after school's done. The only problem is I am kind of dependent on weed for sleeping(been an insomniac since I was a kid and weed has really helped it out a lot), so I need to find a solution to that.

    I would really appreciate any input. Sometimes I read all this stuff about mental disorders and marijuana and stuff that I think I may just get myself too paranoid, but it sometimes makes me worry that I may have a disorder or something. So it is really important to me, any input I can get about all this, especially the depersonalizing thing.
     
  8. trevor3051

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    Yea man id say if you just cut back it would help a lot, i was kind of in the same situation last year, i just smoked all day wasnt going to school and got really out of touch with things that were going on around me, now that ive cut back im much more in touch with my thoughts. Im pretty sure this isnt a permanent problem your having.
     
  9. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    lol, "too high for my own good"

    thats the perfect description for a couple times i've been on shrooms, never thought it of it like that
     
  10. aesther

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    well bill i said that because caterpillar said hes been smoking an awful lot lately and he's been feeling very out of touch with reality. could this be because of the weed? maybe, the only way to really find out is to stop and see for himself. that's why i said that - wasn't trying to come off as a hard -ass but that's my opinion.

    caterpillar, i've had similar thoughts about depersonalization...
    i can say what you need to do is take a break, be it a week off, or cutting down not smoking everyday. it's upto you to decide how to do it,

    also, i noticed from my own past that when something bad happened, like i liked a girl and it ended or something, i'd kind of smoke to deal with it.
    and that's a BAD way to deal with problems man -- from my experience. i felt better for a few hours and then kinda went back to what i was feeling bad about, although those few hours were great.

    anyways man, i really think you just need to take a break. what's the big deal, you got the rest of your life to toke homie. what is a week now compared to the rest of your life? if you can muster the courage to do it now, and not wait until summer, i think you will feel it was worth it after -- especially with these thoughts of depersonalization
    from my experience thinking about that stuff is very scary.

    also, i took a break this last week. i've kind of wanted to for a while now but was so used to smoking and being high that i never made the decision.
    anyways i did it and i am very happy i did it. i'm rethinking my whole use of the herb, and i think it's definately for the better.

    now, all of what is said is based on my experience with it and the herb...so again, what anybody really says here is just their personal experience for the most part.


    edit: as far as the insomnia goes, there a couple things you could try.
    how long are you awake before trying to sleep? i can never sleep if i've only been up for 10-12 hours.
    also, try exercising sometime in the day, by the time night falls i'm usually more physically tired and able to fall into sleep faster.
    also, are you stressed, do you have a lot of things on your mind? this could stop you from sleeping.
    try relaxing, taking slow long deep breaths 10 minutes before you go to bed, that way when you try to sleep you will be more relaxed

    try drinking a glass of warm milk

    try valerian pills (they're over the counter, natural extract from a plant)

    they are pretty safe from what i've read and experienced in using them. worth a read about if all those other things don't work.

    good luck

    so take a break and see for YOURSELF how the herb affects you individuallly
     
  11. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    hmm.. i dont understand...seems like alot of people have this "loss of reality" syndrom from smoking... i've been a steady pot smoker for 7 years(by steady i mean smoking every day with maybe not smoking once or twice a month because im too drunk to smoke) and i have never had this problem people speak of.. seems like it could be a disorder.. or is it just weakmindedness? i dunno...
     
  12. wonderboy

    wonderboy the secret of your power!

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    lol, I know that I feel kind of out of it after I smoke for a few days straight even... I think it might just be the different way it affects people, jokerman... not necessarily inferiority.
     
  13. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    im not saying im inferior to anyone... just some peoples brains work on different levels... getting over worked from the marijuana... causing a short... and makin you feel spaced from reality
     
  14. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    well, it does have to do with inferiority because being immune to detriment is a superior quality, thus being susceptable to detriment is an inferior quality, but its not gonna necessarily equate to a superior or inferior person.

    a big issue here is the words used. to some, the effect may feel 'loss of reality'. to me, i felt it was actually an enhancement of reality, because of what i classify as 'reality'. to others, it can be seen as being 'cloudy', or just 'dull' or uninterested. so when looking at feelings you cant assess other people's feelings by the way you would interpret their words, but the way they would interpret their words, which cant be done properly. so, jokerman, maybe you dont get these feelings at all, or maybe you get them and dont think of it as loss of reality at all, or maybe you get them but simply arent aware of them in the same way as others (or at all).
     
  15. smashnationalism

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    To The Caterpillar: “reality” is very relative. Marijuana does alter your perspective, and therefore, since I personally know the ridiculous amounts of weed you smoke :), you could be so used to the intoxicated state of mind that “normal” reality seems extremely different and strange.

    I recommend a break. I took a month break from smoking and it was good. Remember: as amazing and wonderful as being high is, nothing gives you the rush of life better than clear thought. You know how much I love to smoke, and I don’t think there is anything wrong with smoking every day…But!-- when you feel as you do, I think a break is in order.

    I would not worry about a mental disorder. I would worry about Depersonalization only in the sense that society is trying with every breath to customize everyone to be the same. Keep your individuality. Also: VERY IMPORTANT! Get passion in your life. I went through an extreme bout of this a while back, and the solution i found was to incorporate something you care about into your everyday life. Find an injustice and fight for it. You will find your identity through helping others.

    I know how big your heart is, how acute your mind, and how frequent your smile lets loose its toothy grin. Brother, we are one in this mess. Call whenever you need to.

    BEH.

    SML
     
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