you should try some pepto bismo for that stomach of your ramble on... I made my post and I stand by it, my dad was a farmer, worked his ass to the bone everyday all day, I remember when I was young holding his hands and feeling all the calouses and cracks, my brothers a plumber, his hands are messed up, my hands have calloses, cuts scrapes split nails, ..i dont know I guess Ive always done jobs and work that messes up my hands......
Blinkin: I totally agree with you... I'm a "professional" but love self sufficiency and a good days work.. I spend most of my free time making bows for hunting or doing odd jobs for older people in the area that can't... and you know what.... my hands are rough and calloussed as they were when I left the farm nearly ten years ago... it's been said that the size of a man's heart can be known by the size of the calouses on his hands.
hahah muscle hippy , your right university is not easy, I studied philosophy and theology UBC and NNBC now I pray and think deeply about working hard.......
And im sure your tution is making others very happy! "Universities do NOT produce laziness" your right ive never seen a lazy college student... ever... There is jsut something wholesome and fullfilling about a good days work, that pampered desk jockys just wonldent understand
like with everything there should be balance. and one way of working is not better or easier than the other, we need both ways in this world.
lisa, i'm fairly certain that this world could do without laziness. different methods of working are definatly needed, as some of us are farmers while others are more adept at interacting with people -- however, laziness is not a method of working, its a method of NOT working. my dad kicked down a kickass work ethic, always be on time, and always keep yourself busy even by helping others if you have to. I find myself confronting lazy people more and more at my workplace, and I've stopped giving a damn what lazy folks think of me.
ofcourse!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what i meant to say with my post is that alot of people work their asses off and others just bum around and that should be balanced out... i'm all for hard working, i don't appreciate laziness at all, you wanna do nothing? you get nothing!
just one question.....if life is all about how hard you work and how many hours a day you put in ,how do you sit back and reflect on life??..but then again what is hard work for some is easy for others i guess ...some find washing dishes hard work
my dad works all week, from 7 to 7 each day he works hard, is stressed out, has no fun but still thinks working like this is the right thing to do... i disagree. but yip, that's the other extreme. I admire my mom when it comes to working. She works in a home for physically handicapped people, helps them wash, go to the bathroom, make dinner, clean their houses and gives them medication etc etc, this is physically hard work, she does this 4 days a week, the other days she works around the commune she lives in and in the veggiegarden, and does things for herself. I think that's the right way to go about it...
I personaly enjoy the results of hard days work much better. Even if it's working hard at having a good time, in the end myself and my coworkers, friends, family, whomever helped are rewarded for our efforts. I always try and remember that for every action there is an equal or greater reaction. Lisa, your mom sounds like she loves what she does at work and at home, and she sounds like a very busy lady and happy about what she does with all of her time. Being a hard worker has nothing to do with hippies, it has to do with your ethics in regards to being active with all of your time or instead loafing about doing nothing with your free time. I say if you've got nothing to do get up and dance, make a necklace, make a friend..do something man -- we only live this life once.
I agree headie, I love the satisfaction of a days work , even bieng physicaly tired has its own apreciations.. even when Im not working a 9 to 5 doing highwaychild, I still find myself doing a lot of work, either making crafts, selling, doing something on the bus....its just good to keep busy. whats the saying about ldle hands?
i suppose some people can't stand idle time ..i can .gives me a chance to reflect on life ........in the summer i have to many things to do to sit back and think ..that is why i like the winter time .........and as far as working hard .......i stand by what i say because i have yet to find anyone willing to help me ..even part time .......i had one guy help me for 2 hours last summer and complained he was sore for a week ....oh well ,i guess that's life ...another couple of weeks and my computer time will be curtailed to a few hours a week ........but watch out next winter ..lol
I agree on both sides of the discussion. When there is work to be done, get it done and out of the way so you can enjoy some free time. don't go looking for make work projects. if there is work to be done and you just stand there though, don't look to me to do it all for you. Oh and the hand thing...lol. i've worked side by side with people that just are clumsy and bang up there hands, looks like there working hard, but there hardly working always holding there hand (hammer's, rocks, logs dropped on hands...). I wear gloves first of all and am careful. hence my hands are in relatively good shape, I do have a few nicks and scratches but they don't mark my hands for more than a day or two and then aren't noticed.
its usually in an engine Ill ding up the hands, cant get my hands fitting in places, pushing on a torque qwrench then smacking it into something...I just dont like using gloves gets to hot and my hands are pretty big. but yeah I can see your point, I just go gung hoe, sometimes I should take sometime and do things slowly....
we dont take lunch at work,,no breaks,,work straight thru.. i always tell people im the laziest fucker there is,,.. i just prefer to go as hard an fast as i can when theres somethin to be done ,,so i can go be a slack ass.. works fer me... luv n lite
i hear ya there tuatara... mine is already dwindling down n quickly too i might add,,,, although gotta say i actually enjoy being busy n workin hard,,, wish i could figger out things i enjoyed doin in the winter that was out doors,,,,
heh, i dunno if i want to live on a commune or not. i tried a christian commune and the land was beautiful but coundn't get into the philosopy. as far as work goes i want to do something meaningful and i don't mind working hard but am not into doing things that babylon does because of whatever trip the are on at the time like neccessarily working a set amount of hours, or not working for a set amount of hours. i am into living close to the land and don't care for t.v., movies, eating out, wearing the latest, threads. one thing i am disabled at least temporarily and must live alone because i can't really contribute full time. continually i run up against ideaology vs reality. can i do something and survive or do i have to conform to survive. currently i live in a small town not on the outskirts where i would like to be because i am so disabled that i can't even try to move. yes i am getting better as i apply alot of hippie spirituality to my life but it is taking longer than i thought. anyway living more simply means i guess that you don't need all the material things that many feel they must have--- like a new car every year, computers[ i use the one at the library], cell phones, latest t.v., play stations, a stock portfolio etc... which nessesitates that one work 40 t0 60 days a week to support. it seems that we as hippies are sort of floundering because we know how we would like to live but there aren't that many situations out there for us unless i am missing something which i would be glad to have my eyes opened. if someone tells me i can manifest whatever i want in life i guess i have a hard time believing that. i mean it seems we have to work together for change, to espouse our values and try to find ways to make them happen in real time. i know that if i start to lose my mind i will load up my truck and hit the road to see what happens. bobbeefree