gonna do DOC for the first time soon

A mate gave me a ten strip of 1.2mg DOC blotter and i was asking for some advice on where/how i should do it.

Im going to a psy-trance rave this saturday and was thinking of eating maybe 3 hits of DOC. Do you reckon 3 hits is a good idea? Or i could just do acid instead and have the DOC some other time, so i do it in an envoironment where i can notice the difference between LSD and DOC easier, what do you think?

My previous experience with psychedelics is 9 trips acid doses from 150 to 400 mics, 2 mescaline trip 18" fresh san pedro cactus and 25g dried san pedro, 3 mild mushroom trips 15-35g fresh (thats cos of my tolerance to psilocin unfortunately), 1 trip LSA 10 HBWR. The only RC i've done before is 2C-B twice at 20 and 30mg so psychedelic dose not MDMA like dose).

 

My advice:

Take only two, if that's indeed the strength.

Take it easy on the night. Don't eat too much before hand, be able to sit and rest for the night if you need to.

Set aside at least 24 hours before there's anything important you need to do.

 

I guess it is quite different for everyone.

2.5 blew me away, as did it for 3 of my friends. Kicked in within 40 minutes, clearly tripping in an hour. Pretty intense, and no desire to go higher.

 

Very good advice angerton.
I figure if someone came across something new they would do best to start with a low dose, of an unfamiliar drug first, just to see if there is a allergic reaction. something like 1/4 of a hit should be enough to determine that, if in fact that is 1.2mg per hit you have there.
Any ways happy trails to you.

 

I tried this stuff, 1.5 hits...

Very shitty visuals until 3 hours after ingestion, when they got kind of lsd esque. relaxing bodyload...peaked 1 1/2 hour later.

Come down was really long, saw a few lsd 'cells' , but they were kind of random and unorganized. Couldnt see deep inside. Each time I looked at this I though what a waste of mind

It was more intense tripping for less visuals, than with lsd.

 

I tried 3 mg of doc a few months ago and indeed it did take a few hours to kick in...but when it did i was generally impressed, very visual, and energetic, i really enjoyed it.

 

Every-body reacts different. Just look a the recent thread of the guy that consumed 200mg of 2c-e, if I did that I likely wouldn't be hear to write this post. Many people dislike 2ct2, I enjoy it a lot. Many people find salvia fun, many don't. I don't think it's fair to objectively classify DOC as 'boring' based on your subjective experience. You will see that 'most' people have VERY intense visuals on DOC. I think it can more accurately stated that YOU don't know what DOC visuals are because 6mg didn't do the trick for you and therefore the chemical didn't live up to your expectations and was boring. The fact that you find 6mg of DOC boring and you can fall asleep at any time means your body either a) reacts very different to DOC than most people, or, b) your DOC is maybe not pure, or even DOC at all. DOC lasts between 14-24 hours for most people, relaxation is easy, but sleep is not and 2mg is often enough to give an experienced psychonaut one of the most enjoyable trips of their life.

 

Well apparently 93.8% of folks consider DOC at least ‘worthwhile.’ 24.4% report ‘Extreme Open Eye Visuals’ and 31.1% report ‘Extreme Closed Eye Visuals.’ Still, at least some persons found DOC not to be worthwhile and some even found it to be quite unpleasant, such that they would definitely not try it again. People’s bodies, minds, and reactions really can and do vary.

There is an excellent story in either PiHKAL or TiHKAL (PiHKAL I think) where Anne takes a compound that appears to be inactive (and subsequently is for her) yet it elicits a powerful reaction of deep personal meaning.

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IB: suire people react differently, but a lot of exaggerating goes down with psychedelics. People think "extreme" visuals is seeing some colorful patterns.

 

That's my fear as well these days. I've got my feelers out for some L but I'd be worried about getting some crappy RC instead. I would almost rather knowlingly take DOC than dose acid without knowing for sure. I can understand your dislike of DO*, but from what I gather DOC is not much like the other DO*'s except for duration. That's almost like saying all 2c-*'s suck because someone tried 2c-i and didn't get visuals (meanwhile 2c-e is very visual) if you get my drift. I have absolutely no interest in DOI, DOB, DOA, DOM, AMT, etc, but DOC I can't wait. I have a feeling it will be a bit more intense than the 2c-i, 2ct2 I have been using lately although things got pretty interesting on 2ct2 yesterday after I took 2400mg of piracetam. All of a sudden the visuals really kicked in big time and I couldn't figure out why, then I remembered the piracetam. Piracetam + DOC could be crazy as its known to potentiate psychedelics but also smooth out stimulants, although I would do quite a bit more research into this combo myself before trying it.

 

Just for the record the survey had specific ‘anchor points.’ Both the “Extreme Open Eye Visuals” and “Extreme Closed Eye Visuals” items seem to describe something somewhat stronger than “colorful patterns.” To be specific they were as follows:

Mild Open Eye Visuals (trails, patterning, etc.)
Notable Open Eye Visuals (fractals, warping, morphing, etc.)
Extreme Open Eye Visuals (Complete Loss of Visual Reality / White Out etc.)

Mild Closed Eye Visuals (2-D &/or simple geometric patterns).
Notable Closed Eye Visuals (3-D geometric patterns &/or complex visions).
Extreme Closed Eye Visuals (Utterly Real / Believable Other Dimensions or Worlds / The Void / etc.)

Though your general point about the prevalence of extreme hype is well taken.

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Yea that was a good survey dude, I filled out the one for 2c-e I think.

 

2c-e had extreme visuals for me
DOC had moderate visuals. Defintely better than just some color enhancement and patterns IMO.
i have tried 20+ psychedelics in my lifetime and feel like i could accurately judge what good visuals are.