I did 14 mg doses on an empty stomach and my trips lasted between 4-6 hours with a couple hours of trailing off and coming up. all in all ive had great experiences with 2ci...two thumbs up
binge? lol, uhhh that's not a binge man a binge would be like if you stayed up for a couple days re dosing over and over. you're just tripping.
I agree, 14 hours of 2c-i is not a binge, just a redosed trip. My body finds 2-ct-2 a more interesting alternative, BUT with 2c-i I can be tripping very well mentally but my pupils remain normal. There is no sign to the outside world I am tripping, which makes this substance unique in my experience. Everything else seems to make my pupils lager than normal. I don't experience much visual stimulation with 2c-i personally (in the 8-15 mg range), but the mental effects are great and I like the fact that no one needs to know... I could see 4-5mg of 2C-I/day being an effective nootropic, especially when combined with the more traditional nootropics (piracetam, hydergine, vinpocetine etc). The only downside I find with the 2c-(x)'s, LSA etc, is that they make me very sedated for the come-up (IMO semi-sleep is a good transition from the waking state to a tripping state, just not good for nootropic purposes)
Hm - I find 2C-I quite speedy, even at low doses; no chance of sleeping for at least 6-7 hours. Also, it does dilate my pupils (though not nearly as much as some other substances do). I get pretty good visual stimulation with it, too; warping patterns & tracers & spacial distortion - no hyperfractals like the classic psychs (in the doses I've taken it at, anyhow, up to 16mg). I like its upbeatness and the mental clarity, kind of a perfect "social psychedelic", if there is such a thing. An entheogen, though, it is not. I agree with you about 2C-T-2; it's pretty great in low doses - haven't had the time for a proper trip. Much easier on the body at this level than 2ci (which gets "speedy" for me & has uncomfortable stomach tightness even at really low doses), with a very nice "glow" and augmentation of physical sensations. I haven't done enough to get into visual territory yet (at which point I fully expect to ride the vomit comet that so many people report). I've just had a sandwich "binge": two sandwiches in a row! Who else has eaten so many sandwiches? Damn, I a high flyer.
Oh, i dunno -- I found it develops tolerance really quickly, so after 2 days at 4-5 mg (where you would definitely feel some effects) your third day would be, like, nothin'. Other people have reported reduced mental ability after longer-term use of 2CI, so be careful... (it is a research chem, after all, and it bears repeating that not much is known about long term effects of any of the 2C group).
haha i was just asking to see if it would be safe to go any longer. did it again the next day so i was pretty out of it for about 36 hours.
I ate another sandwich this morning, and another one this afternoon, so I have been full for two days straight! *swings dick wildly about, then, realizing nobody cares, stuffs it back in his fly and slinks home*
When i first found this stuff years ago a freind of mine ate 60 mg of it after 2 seperate 25mg doses earlier that week, and was able to handle it pretty well. He was gone for a good 36 hours before being able to sleep, i remember that time quite well, the only time i ever seen a deer come out the woods to fuck with a freinds brother while hes wigged out and just wonder back into the woods like nothing was going on, it took me a little over an hour to stop laughing. Either way the point is it does seem this substance gets tolerance rather quickly, but then the tolerance leaves just as fast. would be better if there was no tolerance ya know?
yea... ive grown a tolerance to this stuff already im starting to do 50mg doses like i used to do 25mg doses the first time was awsome so strong. but after a while it just becomes very mild easy to control. doing the 50mg hit is alot better. the only side effect ive gotten so far from it is stomache aches everyonce in a while, hyperness and gas the day after i take it. ive been using it for about 4 months now. 2 times a week. i havent really felt any mental effects.
Before you go too hog on it, read up on the anecdotal reports from people who've taken large-ish amounts over a longer term. There are some indications that it might not be cotton candy. It is a research chemical, after all (meaning it hasn't been properly researched).
That wasn't what I was thinking of, but yeah, that too. I was thinking of mentions here, on bluelight and likely elsewhere that reported things like bleeding gums (though I think that li'l rumor was nipped in the bud), a lingering flattening of emotions, decreased mental capacity... It's probably (PROBABLY) pretty safe to use a number of times, but I'd really, really watch the "bingging" (which, like, I don't count tripping for 14 hours as)
I took around 15 doses of 2ci in early 2004 and still notice hppd symptoms when I smoke. I have also taken mushrooms and LSD several times since but am convinced that 2ci is most responsible, as the patterns I see when I smoke are that of 2ci. I don't see it much anymore but 6 months after my 2ci experimentation it was quite apparent. Not unpleasant. Mostly flash-patterning and gentle ebbing / distortion.
Yeah, 2C-I is more "persistent" than almost anything else, it seems. Luckily its mental effects are light, so you're unlikely to wind up in a bad mental space when "flashing back." I count mild persistent visuals as a plus, actually....
