Questions about Islam

I can give you a perspective from someone who's only understanding of the Muslim world comes from the beautiful mind of one of this forums Muslim participants.

It's clear that our understanding of a strict teacher cannot be compared to the teaching and lessons that are instilled in most Muslim children. Just like you know there is only one way to arrange the alphabet properly, there is no room for variation or acceptance of others who would like to switch two of the letters around... however insignificant the change you would consider it to be unacceptable because it would ultimately create a completely different language. It would be different from what you KNOW as the right way, and once the arguement started between you and the other 'idiot', the war wouldn't end until one of you got YOUR way. And it wouldn't bother you if your childrens children would have to die fighting about the differences, both sides feel like it is their 'birthright' to prove who is right or wrong.
At the heart of the Islamic war lies two groups of people who are nearly identical in every aspect other than some slight variations that are as significant to their lives as the differences in the example I just gave. From the time these people are born into a Muslim home, Allah and his 'guidelines' are all that they are exposed to. From the moment they are born the rooms they will grow up in are traditionally occupied with the sound of the Quran filling the air. And for the most part they also believe that following the path described to them in the Quran is all the guidance they need to reap the fruits of this life. So eventho' the differences between these two different religions is nearly non-existent, according to the only thing they truly understand, they are strictly forbidden to recognize or accept their own spiritual brothers 'way of life'. For them to compromise or even consider accepting and adapting to the differences between themselves, one side or both sides has to break the only 'law' they recognize and betray the teachings of their Lord God and Savior. Since Allah is the only existence that many of them have the ability to understand and they are also 100% confident and secure in the rewards waiting for them after they pass this test, they honestly don't have the ability to consider what their lives would be like here if they were able to embrace their Muslim brothers. They really don't care because they fear the consequences of disobeying their 'teacher' more than the suicide bomber that could explode in their faces.
So I would imagine they aren't allowed to have non-Muslim friends because they are not allowed to participate in or allow themselves to be exposed to anything , especially anyone determined a 'non-Muslim'.
As far as not being allowed to denounce their faith, it's probably because they see this as the most disrespectful thing a born Muslim could possibly do. I guess you could call it obnoxious, but as far as the Muslim mind is concerned once a person understands or submits to follow the path of Allah, they should never question that, they should 'know' there is no other way.
To consider anything other than the directions and belief's they have been taught, is like a slap in Allah's face, a total outrage. So it is not unreasonable to see that they believe it is their responsibility to murder anyone who would show this kind of shame to Allah.
(Im just seeing the news of todays bombings, unreal)

It is very hard to understand how this continues.

I think when you hear the Muslim people insist their religion is one of love and peace, especially those not effected by the blood and gore...
it is because of the relationship they share with Allah, the love they experience from the comfort the Quran provides them with and the security and peace of mind they are fortunate enough to possess by following the directions of a 'teacher' that their mind does not have the desire or ability to question. When a Muslim proclaims that Islam is a religion of PEACE it might be because they never feel alone, lost, or question that after this life they will be walking alongside their 'Father' in whatever perception of 'heaven' each individual has.

I hope that helps.

 

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Certainly it does, you explained it yourself

[sighs] Daniel-san, must talk. Man walk on road. Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk down middle, sooner or later, get squished
[makes squish gesture]
just like grape.
Same here. You like Muslim "yes," or like Muslim "no."
There is no inbetween or 'gray' area in the directions found in the Quran and the first step towards disobeying a law is taken when we question it's right to keep us all in 'line'.

That's was a low blow dude.
The only reason you see it as a mind fuck is because you would have to make a decision on who you will give thanks and praise to, and how you are going to live the rest of your life.... then stick to it. I haven't been strong enough to consider that kind of commitment either. But it is quite simple and I do envy the people who are not concerned about their own fate. The source of this message is not responsible for the faith you consider to be equally as ignorant as Bush, it was men just like him who's primary concern is satisfying themselves.

I think it would be fair to say that the Prophet Muhammad was not immune to the same disease that all men have. He was a poor illiterate man who married a wealthy woman of status, so it would go without saying that he manipulated the power he possessed in the message he received to impress her people, and accomodate some of his own selfish desires.

You know what galls me, the USG doesn't hesitate to break a foot of dirty sewer pipe off in the average American ass on a daily basis. The chemicals they are putting into our dairy supply has been banned throughout the rest of the entire world. The Suk. of Def. is first hand responsible for putting ASSpartame back on our grocery shelves after it was banned by the FDA in the early 80's because it cause tumors and lymphnomas in every fucking lab-rat that was exposed to the chemical. And if that doesn't chap your ass, a well labeled organization of drug dealers have taken over the Fright-House...
and you know what the God and 'freedom' loving people of this nation are doing about it?
Nada.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.html

Possibly, but it would never originate from questioning their own faith.

And I'm sure you understand that they are not willing to disturb the foundation of their 'Fathers' instructions to prove to the rest of the world that the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world IS surrounded in LOVE and PEACE.

I agree with you, but instead of being disgusted with the spiritual fundamentals these people have been taught by their parents... take into consideration that none of the critical words that have been expressed as the words or desires of God or Allah have ever been translated by women.
You know as well as I do that the men involved in the translation of ancient scriptures and the creation of thousands of 'spin off' religions have also manipulated every aspect of the original messages to accomodate their modern day needs, and to satisfy the everchanging desires of their congregations.

So blame the MEN.
Maybe it's just a matter of the women in the world taking a kitchen knife to their husbands throats so they can salvage what is left of their own childrens future.
Would that be wrong too?

 

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I really don't know why some members here consider someone [who asks questions about other religion or criticizes something] wants to start a fight!!!!!​

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I say THUMPS UP to the rationality, it is good to check whether what we heard is right or wrong, I THANK YOU very much, may Allah bless you, Hats OFF​

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I think This is not right, because we can for e.g. (male Muslims) marry non-Muslims women (from Christianity or Judaism) if you are talking about [4.89] They (who are they?) wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not Auliya (protectors or friends) from them (who them?), till they etc however, read the previous verse as well, Allah is talking about a particular people at the time, you will find similar verse:​

O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists, etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islamic Monotheism, this Quran, and Muhammad SAW), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allah your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure, (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists, etc., as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray, (away) from the Straight Path . when you keep reading Allah further says:​

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Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. ​

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Accordingly, we cannot take those who are doing such things to Muslims as friends! Those who Allah is talking about (particular people). what's the wrong with that, very rational. ​

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(Sahih Bukhari) Narrated Asma' bint Abu Bakr: My mother came to me, hoping​

for my favor) during the lifetime of the Prophet (her mother was a disbeliever and Asma became a Muslim) asked the Prophet, "May I treat her kindly?"He replied, "Yes." Ibn 'Uyaina said, "Then Allah revealed: 'Allah forbids you not with regards to those who fought not against you because of religion, and drove you not out from your homes, that you should show them kindness and deal justly with them, Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. Quraan: But if they (both, the disbeliever parents) strive with you to make you join in worship with Me others that of which you have no knowledge, then obey them not, but behave with them in the world kindly​

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plus non-Muslims should know the following​

If someone really honestly wants to understand the Noble Quran, then he/she must not just only read the Noble Verses from it, but also study the history of each verse because each verse in the Noble Quran came for a purpose. The Quraan is the last Allah's Scriptures which Allah revealed in the installments over a period of twenty-three years. It is one of the fundamental sources of the Islamic teachings. Some of its surahs (chapters) and verses were revealed at Makkah, and the rest thereof were revealed at Madinah.Muslim scholars have analyzed these verses , taking into account the scriptural and historical context of the revelation.​

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Thank you again for asking may Allah bless you =)​

Peace and love​

Yours Sincerely,​

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OPS! Your second question​

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The answer in one line: This is Allah's order. That's it =)​

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1* If a Muslim wants to apostatize from Islam, he can do it but privately so he will not be punished, but of course in Hell.As long as he is a Muslim there is a covenant that he should respect it, as long as he is a Muslim that means he has to follow the Islamic laws (constitution) and he will be punished according to the Islamic Law, That covenant says, if you will apostatize publicly you will be killed, HOW dare him to break the law i.e. to disobey GOD publicly! Read 3*​

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2* But if he will repent or broke it ignorantly then this is another issue. i.e. if he will return to Islam after apostatizing then the punishment of killing will be canceled; those who apostatize from Islam they do so for reasons, for example misunderstanding of some verses and ignorance and the like so after clearing and clarifying to them they can return and will not be punished. Myself, I don't think that there are Muslims who want to apostatize except for a misunderstanding , ignorance or the like. ​

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3*When a Muslim wants to apostatize and proclaims that, Muslims won't kill him immediately, they ask him firstly why, and they clarify to him if he has misunderstandings and I am sure he will reach the point that Islam is the religion of God because it is so, there are many proofs, so after this discussions to make him repent and think more, if he still want to apostatize then he will be punished, we already clarified to him, that means he wants to reject the truth! HOW dare him to break the law i.e. to disobey GOD publicly! *read 4* but if he doesn't want to be a Muslim anymore so apostatize but privately or get out form the Islamic countries so he will not be punished, actually as I said anyone who wants to apostatize openly Muslims don't kill him immediately they must know firstly why does he want that and discuss with him and they deal with each one who wants to apostatize according to his case and reason and according to that the punishment applyè for example, he wants to apostatize just because he doesn't want to go to Hajj!! Or to pay for poor anymore, after discussing with him and attempts to make him retract from his decision, then he will be punished. If he will not proclaim his apostasy, who would know that, he apostatized? ​

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Again: These are God's orders I won't argue my sir. ​

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4* The computer inventor, he invented the computer so that the computer will do what is ordered to him from the inventor, the inventor clicks on a folder twice and that means in the computer language (open the folder), so it will open it. If your computer doesn't respond to your orders, tell me honestly what will you do? It is not just not responding, it is doing other things that you didn't ask it to do it? Not just that, it is destroying, removing, and deleting your precious stuffs and files?? Honestly what will you do? Myself, I will kill him by removing the plug which the computer is connected to it. Because the computer is yours then you only have the utter freedom and right to choose the way of getting rid of it , it is exactly the same Allah had created us and he is the only one who has the right to choose how is the punishment will be of those who apostatize from his religion, Allah has given several proofs to his existence and that Quraan is his word and Muhammad is his messenger while he who wants to apostatize wants to left the religion ofGod after he knew the truth publicly!​

However, you find similar order in the Bible​

Deuteronomy 13. 2, 5:whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods…shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.God doesn't want this creature to be alive anymore exactly like me when I decided to kill my computer in the above example.Why does he wants to apostatize from the truth? ​

5- Deuteronomy 13. 6-9:If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathersNamely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he diethat he die ...And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you. If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.​

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I myself am not a Muslim, but I do have some Muslim friends in Morocco. Not only freindly, but much more so than many westerners, and they seem to have preserved traditions of hospitality which sadly have declined in the west in general.

I was lucky in that I was introduced to these people by a mutual friend,(a jew who has converted to Islam) and I don't know how easy it would be to cultivate friendly relations without that.

I think the problem is that people don't realize that customs vary in different countries. They think Islamic culture is the same everywhere. I guess that in Morocco things are different than in the middle east, Indonesia or Turkey. All are Islamic countries, but the culture of each is also unique.
Overall, I'm worried that most western people have an extremely unreal and biased view of Islam. My experience is that Muslims are like everyone else. If they sense a person is genuine and sincere they will respond positively.
Especially if you show respect for Islam, or even a general belief in God.

 

I know quite a number of people who come from a islamic background who really dislike islam, so you cant just say its because they have a unreal view of the "religion" that people dislike it .

by the way we have at least one islamic apostate who posts on hipforums who shares with me a dislike for islam he comes from a majority islamic country so has the background .

how is it fair that a muslim who may have been brought up in saudi and has had no real chance to learn about other reiligions is killed for wanting to leave later on in life .

if you are not told about or have access to information about other choices, how is making a choice fair and why should you be killed if you come to see that the choice you made was wrong .

algeria and I think morroco have just passed laws to make it illegal to teach muslims about other religions, and for a muslim to convert out of islam by the way.

to me the killing of apostates and the fact that muslim kill critics, authors, poets, who have a negitive attitude towards islam shows that the religion of itself isnt able to show a informed person that it is the true religion .

instead it trys to keep secret the true actions of the so called prophet mohammed and of early islam.

it shows what a evil death cult islam is, that people are not able to leave it, that it depends on fear and violence

the quran says its easy to understand and it says very clearly not to take jews and christians as friends .

cat says look "we muslims men can marry jewish and christian women" well yes but the idea behind that is to take away women from these communitys, and thereby raise up more muslims .....

a christian or jewish man cant marry a muslim women, to me that shows that the quran is correct in when it says that a muslim isnt to be a friend of a christian or jew .

in islams history it has taken advantage of people with better standards of behavior .

I wonder how muslims would react if lets say we beheaded cat stevens for apostacy not our poster but the singer .

wouldnt that be fair we could give him a few days to make up his mind then the choice would be up to him , after what he did to salman rushdie driving him into hiding if it was legal to behead him I would be happy to do it .

cat stevens like our poster cat stevens believes that people who change their religion from islam should be killed so surely he would see the justice in his execution .

 

Obviously changes need to be made to how people consider the message, if the Quran was understood as a song and our 'Creators' greatest desire to see ANY walk of life have the opportunity to live an eternal existence with this Earth,
it wouldn't be something everyone was forced to either follow like step by step directions, or fear crossing the path of. It would be an opportunity for people to understand the meaning of life and once that was obvious to the entire world 'man' would never get a second chance to RULE and DESTROY OUR MOTHER EARTH!

I'm sure if a Muslim child grew up and while travelling around the world decided that they wanted to 'broaden their horizons' to experience the world from other aspects and open their minds to the possibilities and confusion in todays world , that nobody would try to stop them, much less try to kill them. It's not as if this doesn't happen ALL THE TIME right now.
But if they came home and kept running adds in the local paper and marching up and down the street telling people " Following Islam is the wrong way to live your life ", it would be like publicly spitting or slapping shame in billions of people's faces.
I understand if you may find that acceptable, but I don't.
So how would you handle it?
You either have to let them keep dis-gracing you and your people or you can remove their head.
If you said the solution to this shouldn't be death and instead cut out their tongue, then they would write it down so you cut off their hand, they use the other hand so you cut that one off too. Then they tape a pen to their amputated stump and write it again etc etc etc ...... so would you recommend that the punishment for spitting in the face of Allahs people be to chop them apart piece by piece everytime they did something to shame your way of life, or remove them from existence in public right when and where they shout out against Allahs name and threaten your childrens future?

Although I don't believe they have the right to defend their faith by murdering their OWN DAMN BROTHERS. But I also don't believe the people who follow Allah's path are responsible for this happening, regardless what name the American/Israeli media constantly calls them.

There is no way to control what other people want to think or understand about this life, but there is a way to prevent them from destroying your way of life or threaten your dreams for your children to have an opportunity to LIVE.
A line MUST be drawn and I don't doubt why it was placed the way it was in the Quran.
I also don't doubt why or how it was corrupted and used as a tool to AMP this war.

If you think it bothers you to see the results of suicide bombings on the news announced with the responsibility attatched to the phrase "radical ISLAMIC' people, think about what it does to those who love and cherish their way of life, their OWN name. It grosses everybody out to see that the same people who made the Twin Towers disappear were planning on how to destroy the Muslim world while the explosives in the basement of the buildings were detonated.
The WTC attack was a controlled demolition, 9 of the Muslims supposedly flying the planes are still living today, so do you think it is possible for the same "invisible" demon spirits to manipulate and amplify the war between two very torn groups of Muslim people? That CAN"T question what their TEACHER has said ! Their enemy is clearly smart enough to KNOW that the fighting between brotherhoods cannot join together and fight against their true enemy together.
That is the only snowballs chance in hell Israel ever had to control and dominate man , they crave POWER, they always need MORE !

A child born into a Muslim family doesn't get to chose their sex, their parents, their location of birth, the color of their hair eyes or skin, their brothers or sisters and many other things they will NEVER get to chose about.
Unfortunately humans don't have the luxury of growing up and drawing a picture of how they would like to be born and go back and start life over, no matter what... if someone is unsatisfied with the possibilities this life offers,
changing their color and letting them make every choice based on their knowledge certainly won't satisfy them either.
I think it's clear what happens when too many people are allowed to function in any manner they think is best for them.

The dream is that through understanding the Islamic message SOMEBODY could live in PEACE on EARTH, that would automatically involve living without fear, and without war or intimidation of being destroyed. That is why I don't question that the Quran IS a gift from the Spirit of OUR Creator because it includes the best opportunity for US to live LIFE as ONE in harmony for eternity.
I understand that by saying "we come in peace" and then offering people an invitiation to join you on your journey, because if they keep going in the wrong direction they will certainly die, does not mean for the Muslims to launch "search and destroy" missions like the US/Israeli military has done to try and conquer them.
Like, you can accept that Israel's greatest desire is being forced upon them by violent force with the assistance of the military 'superpower' of the world, but it would be too much for you to consider that they SHOULD rule the world by giving people the opportunity to understand and chose whether or not they want to live in PEACE with them.
Please show me where Islam has invaded other nations and forced jets and long range ballistic missles down peoples throats forcing them to follow their path. Not once has that ever happened, and it is BEEN happenening to them every day !@
But they are the bad people, the Muslim is a terrorist pack, radical Islamic threaten the USA ... come on man!
I don't like to be mean but it is very important for you to HEAR that you are all GOING UNDER with the rest of the TRANQUILIZED AMERICANS!
I know you can see through the smoke screen Skip !
ugh,, I am not mad at people for not seeing this, I am very scared for your lives and it pisses me off SO GODDAMMED BAD !
Send me a pm if you think the 'American way' is right, I'll tell you what the Fright house is doing to your food.
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From what I understand the intention and reason humans were blessed with the Quran, was to create an opportunity for eternal life on EARTH.
NOT for MAN to FIGHT about the CHANGES they made and give them an excuse to DESTROY OUR ONLY SOURCE OF LIFE.
And for this to work perfectly all it would take is a painless 5 minute long surgical procedure on 90% of all males at birth. Just cut their nuts out, and cut their fathers throats if he wanted to fight about MANS RIGHT to contaminate our lives and RULE YOUR MOTHER EARTH.
Men won't have anyone to fight about this with no matter how mad they are, unless they are deranged enough to start killing their own women and children first.
Which is quite possible.


Thanks for asking questions, ask more!
btw, my answers are just an opinion of why the world is ignorant to the answers that are written in Catstevens book.

 

One more thing, I have never touched or read the Quran other than during discussions through this forum alone.
And I listened to one chapter of the Quran being performed from a download through the computer.

just something for you to consider since the previous post was so important for you to understand, this opinion comes from a person born as a light skinned man in Louisiana about 30 years ago.
If your an American that hates Islamic or Muslims because of what they are showing on the news, consider the source. Your life is in the wrong hands, maybe your children have a chance if you don't allow this system to program them to be as ignorant as us and our American parents obviously were for making it worse.

 

Make that 99% so there won't be any possibility of fighting about who's seeds are going to give life in our future. All walks of life would have the same opportunity.
If the woman giving birth obviously has the mental and physical strenght and the ability to prove her ability to live in a "self-sufficient" manner using herself as the example,
let her pick a number between 1 and 100.
If she gets it right then her son would have the ability to reproduce and the honor of bringing another miracle into this world.

The whole idea may sound rediculous to some people or impossible to impose and enforce, maybe they don't understand how many children die from starvation on a daily basis or how many are thrown into our dumpsters, dumpsters that contain enough wasted food to keep the other children from DYING of starvation.

In 20 or 30 million years from now the only serious threat to LIFE that we might encounter would be much easier to solve as the ones we are experiencing today.

 

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1226&start=0

 

Maybe Bush is right we should nuke them . hell even the fanatical japanase werent this bad and we nuke them . now they built beutifull Hondas and Lexus.

 

But wouldn't it be nice to finally have a REASON for bombing somebody?~...

 

If you read the entire thread that Muhgal posted a link to it will be a good example that shows most 'rational' people cannot accept something to be 'true' or 'right' that contains more contradictions than every other 'religion' put together.

Or just go to the last page and see if religion or 'it' could ever be explained so that religion wouldn't always have the power to cause a big fight.
What 'it' has caused is killing all of us, even the men who are making the most from the results of exploiting 'it'.

I never did like religion and now I completely understand why.
The Quran is something to consider for what it sounds like, the remains of a song sang in no particular order hoping that men wouldn't be able to use the influence of it as their own 'power-tool'... AGAIN.
OUR Creator, was clearly not trying to produce a voice of 'authority" with the right to 'officially' destroy others given exclusively to the Men.

It's a 'wee' bit harsh on the fella's but easier than finding a way to explain something to their friends or families that they also have a hard time even trying to consider.

It's getting impossible to swallow the results of their war.


As a person I really don't know what to do , other than try to get some of the ideas across and hope the right people get a chance to consider them as a solution. It would be nice if wasn't so insulting to men but then it wouldn't be the truth.

 

If you read the entire thread that Muhgal posted a link to it will be a good example that shows most 'rational' people cannot accept something to be 'true' or 'right' that contains more contradictions than every other 'religion' put together.

Or just go to the last page and see if religion or 'it' could ever be explained so that religion wouldn't always have the power to cause a big fight.
What 'it' has caused is killing all of us, even the men who are making the most from the results of exploiting 'it'.

I never did like religion and now I completely understand why.
The Quran is something to consider for what it sounds like, the remains of a song sang in no particular order hoping that men wouldn't be able to use the influence of it as their own 'power-tool'... AGAIN.
OUR Creator, was clearly not trying to produce a voice of 'authority" with the right to 'officially' destroy others given exclusively to the Men.

It's a 'wee' bit harsh on the fella's but easier than finding a way to explain something to their friends or families that they also have a hard time even trying to consider.

It's getting impossible to swallow the results of their war.

As a person I really don't know what to do , other than try to get some of the ideas across and hope the right people get a chance to consider them as a solution. It would be nice if wasn't so insulting to men but then it wouldn't be the truth.