I was just thinking about something. According the the islamic calendar, the year is 1427. Now think about where the Christian world was in 1427 (in our calendar). Yes, you guessed it, the Inquisition. And who was the Inquisition against? The infidels! Anyone not belonging to the orthodox view was an enemy of the church, of the culture. Europe was in chaos. Now, the inquisitions started with threats of heresy from groups like the Cathars, but later included all the protestant groups, Jews, (supposed) pagans/witches, Moors/Muslims, etc. The fabric of life was pulled apart by these new ideas, given that Europe had so long been ruled (by and large) by orthodoxy. It was a serious challenge to their worldview. Now if you consider the same is going on in Islam, with Western culture flooding into their lands, as well as wars and invasions from Western culture (colonialism and imperialism), you can see the connection. The situations are not exactly the same, but the same cultural dissonance is occuring. So, maybe all this shit that the fundamentalist Muslims are doing is just part of...I guess some sort of spiritual adolescence. Maybe in another 600 years, Islam will chill out, and settle into a nice, calm, apathy, just like the west did. Problem solved
I am not sure about the development of islam, but i would assume the religion was molded around the culture at the time, which was subsequent from culture of the past. Middle Eastern culture=Islam and visaversa They have had plenty of time to modernize, just as long as everyone else. I think their prolonged widespread fundamentalism has to do with Male monopolization of the power, keeping women and progressive men from instigating cultural change.
yeah, it was more of a joke, but i think the part about culture shock is still true, and is happening.
I was with you up until there, bro. Has Christianity chilled out? Christianity and her spawn's refusal to 'grow up' is what's sparking that western invasion. I mean,... You can't exactly blame Poland for being invaded, can you? (screen door jokes aside)
Well, Europe is definitely losing it's Christian edge. We Americans still have it bad, though. That wasn't really the serious part of the post though.
The Inquisition was in the 1100s. There was a minor Catholic inquisition of some sorts I think in the late 1400s. The 1400s were the Renaissance. Islams had a golden age already. We took it, and brought it back during the crusades. Causing our renaissance of knowledge, arts, and culture. Then the Spanish Inquisition was carried on in the 1400s but It didn't start or end there. I get what your sayin though its a pretty rad Idea.
And 600 years later, the lucky fellows who sit in Socrates Cafes on Mars, will sip Martian amethyst tea, let their eyes wander over their newsographs (who needs paper?) and discuss how just shy of half a millennium ago, the Holy Islamic Mosque used their Chor'ann -- which has, of course, been translated (or rather mistranslated) to and from Common and Martian and various other languages, with the original having been lost centuries ago -- to justify nine Jee'thads resulting in the slaughter of hundreds of millions of people. These philosophes -- or infinite-dels, as they are called, a sketchy translation of an ancient word from a now-unspoken language -- will take their meal plan pills whilst arguing over how, with the way the world is going, six hundred years from now, the solar system's resources will be waning and the world shall be fighting over not territory, not ideas, but rather cyberalgorithms and the imbalance of nanorupee distribution among the impoverished. I love ancient inverse history! time^-1++!! P.S. What's that saying? Those who don't learn from history are doomed to ... something ... something, ah, who gives a fuck, RIGHT GUYS? Am I right guys, or what? LET'S GO GET CRANKED AND DODGE CARS ON THE HYPERFREEWAY! <3 Leave your IDs at home, kids! All your space are belong to ::BUS!
The first inquisition was against the Cathars in 1184. The second was a general inquisition established in 1230. Both of these were failr short lived and limited in scope. The Spanish inquisition was founded in 1478 and inspired majors inquisitions in Portugal and the Papal States, less significant inquistions were founded around in the same time in virtually every Catholic nation in Europe. So it really wasn't until the later part of the 15th century that inquisitioning really got going full force.
But you proved Trippin Btm wrong still. Even though I would beleive that Christianity and Islam both had a very strange coincidences evoluntion-wise. Yet I dunno about the timing exactly how the Inquisition and modern day Islam unite. Considering the mass of Christianity only forced conversion actually during the crusades, and the inquisition was just a lie to get the knowledge back and destroy those who were in the know. Like the Templars, Cathars, occult Jews, and Muslims. However if you wanna make a comparison of Islam and Catholicism. How about Peter the Hermit and Osama Bin Laden? Both preaching an idea of Jihad that was more or less unheard of on a mass sense. Both were images of a peasent, peter being a hermit, and Osama living in caves travelling around to Al-qaeda camps. Just a suggestion but I see more in common there than in the whole Islam's adolescence and the 15th century of each calendar. Or what about how Christianitys first schism was on the descent of Jesus Christ, the Catholics beleived Peter the Apostle, yet the Cathars and Merovingians and all the truths that are the basis of Dan Browns novel, beleive it was lineage through Mary Magdeline as the rightful heirs to the throne. What about in Islam? How Sunnis beleive in Abu who was an early follower of Muhammed, a sort of apostle. Whereas the Shi'ite believe that Ali is the true descendant, being a nephew of Muhammed, that lineage is correct. These coincidences point more towards the fake calendar of both of these religions, created by a shadow government. Nothing to do with adolescence really.
