Differences: LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline, etc.

Hey, I'm new here...seeing as there's an entire subforum dedicated to Psychedelics, I thought maybe some experienced users here could help out.

I've been wondering about this for a while now. Myself, I've only done shrooms once, and it was a very low dose. I smoke pot fairly often though, but it's not something I feel I have to do daily. Anyway, I've read a lot about psychedelics on sites like Erowid, and it's made me wonder. I've searched on Google using every different set of terms I could possibly think of, and still haven't found the answers I'm looking for. I haven't been searching for the basic differences, it's just that I've read about what psychedelics can do for people and I'm trying to get them sorted out so that I know which might be best for me. Of course, the effects will vary from person to person, so I do plan to try these psychedelics myself, but it'd be nice to know what to expect and what to look for. I don't mean for this to sound like this is all for me, I just think it'd be a cool little guide for anyone wondering about this.

Anyway, what I'm asking is, what are the differences between drugs like LSD, mushrooms, and mescaline? At least mushrooms and LSD, anyway. How do you feel they each affect your creativity? Which do you feel cause the least 'bad trips'? Which make music sound better? Which cause you to do a lot of deep thinking?

These aren't specific questions to be answered or anything, I'm just giving a general idea of what I mean when I ask 'What are the differences?'

Thanks in advance.

 

Well here's my run down. Remember that once upon a time a test was done where people were blindly given psilocybin, mescaline, and lsd, and could not reliably differentiate based on the experience. Some people can, but it's all subjective.


LSD = Mind fuck up the ass, visuals usually have a lot of detail and you can get fractals at a relatively low dose.on average come up is about an hour in total, whole experience around 8 hours

Boomers = Lots of internal exploration and reflection, visuals are usually more like smudgy colors, breathing stuff, flying colors... IME mushroom visuals don't have much detail, but that's not to say they don't get intense. average come up is about an hour, total experience around 6 hours.

Mescaline = You trance out in a psychedelic daze, visuals are like blocky designs with mostly color changes. Average come up is two hours, total length about 12-14 hours.

 

fundamentally, they are similar only in the sense that they elicit depersonalization/ego death, and perceptual distortions. They differ in duration (though mescaline and LSD are somewhat similar in duration), somatic effects (physical side-effects), and qualitative subjective experience. All three will make music sound more vivid, all three have the potential to inspire creativity; also, all three can make you think deeply, though probably more so with LSD. It's a mindfucker, alright.

Mescaline, and to some extent, psilocybin, really emphasizes colors, and patterns; mesc is very geometric. LSD is also geometric, and makes things ooze, ebb, and flow; "tracers" and "trails" seem to linger with moving lights, or even tree branches. Shrooms, for the most part, give fewer bad trips than LSD, but mescaline gives fewer bad experiences then either.

As far as bang for the buck, LSD wins hands down; though for qualitative experience (mind-blowing factor), it's debateable that shrooms take it. They're all awesome, I don't think one is any better than the others.

 

YES geometric that's the word I was using for instead of "blocky" in my mescaline descrip

 

Cool. Thanks for the info.

I'm not sure if anyone else here feels the same way, but I don't care much for visuals or anything. I'm much more interested in the deep thinking/creativity psychedelics can induce. Would you say LSD is best for that?

What would you say is a good dose for a first timer of each? I've done mushrooms once, but it was only a little over one gram, so not much happened. A drunky sort of feeling, and things just seemed weird. I remember I took a walk outside and I saw a rabbit hopping near a pop bottle on the ground, and for a few seconds I thought I saw a pop bottle with rabbit ears hopping around. That was probably the peak of the 'trip', if it even qualifies as one, heheh. Anyway, I was thinking that if I could get my hands on some acid, I could get one hit and me and a friend could take half each? Or should we each take a full one?

Well, I sort of did mushrooms twice. One time my friend had one gram on her, and we both wanted to do them, so we just figured we could try half a gram each and see what happens. Nothing really happened, but I felt paranoid for a few hours after taking them. Extremely paranoid. Perhaps shrooms do that to you at low doses? Do all hallucinogens do that at very low doses? If so, maybe I should take at least two grams of mushrooms next time? Because even when I took the one gram dose, I felt like I was panicking. I mean, I was fine, but under all the 'fine' feelings, it felt like there was some withheld fear/paranoia.

Aside from these questions, if anyone wants to add anything about the difference, feel free.

 

Ehhh dose low like one tab if you want to be creative. Taking a hefty dose, you'd forget who you are, let alone what it means to be creative. The fear comes from your ego trying so hard not to be blown away. Submit to the experience, and you will no longer fear anything.

 

low doses of shrooms give some people the giggles, and others may get paranoid, sort of like being high (though a somewhat different effect overall). that's normal.

higher doses of shrooms have been studied and reported to stimulate creativity (in already creative, artsy people), I'm sure LSD can do the same, at medium doses.

 

ya haha . i got the same crap when i took .3g of shrooms once, nothing at ALL happened.. except for like 3-4 hours after ingestion, i wasnt paranoid, i was just not there... people talked to me but i was like "wtf..." i was trying to tune a guitar and i was completely lost inside my head. nothing seemed to work, it was like a mental breakdown, lasted maybe 30 minutes tops. that is the only thing i had. but defenitely do at least 1.5g of shrooms if you want visuals (good shrooms). 1.5g always makes me see patterns and stuff.. but take 4g if you want a worthy trip

 

we're talking cubes (cubensis), right?

4 grams of liberty caps will really twist ya.

 

haha ya i know. and yes i was talking cubes.

 

I use psychedelics to explore different aspects of consciousness and the universe, and to find wisdom that I can apply to my normal life.

I like to trip on LSA/Morning Glory seeds. I wash them, grind them, top them on icecream. Throwing up is inevitable and it can be a harrowing physical/mental experience. However, once you've thrown up your body and mind truly feel purged. My body feels wonderful for days after.

LSA with me has always been more of an intellectual trip with varying degrees of ego loss. It is nice to sit anywhere and think and understand things from a different perspective. I often feel like I am experiencing my thoughts without the usual crap that tends to clog and limit my perception. I tend to think about mystical things, but I trip with that intention. Occasionally your mental/psychic senses can get a little overwhelmed, like having all the windows of your house open and having a draft blow through. My body fell asleep on them once and there was a distinction between spirit and body, and the rest of the experience was stranger than description.

Mushrooms for me are more physical (bodily sensations on the rise of it) than LSA and it can be a little harder to function in a normal way. I have felt less in control of myself and my emotions while using mushrooms. I tend to think about the connectivity between things and a peaceful harmony in the universe, and love especially. I havent done them enough to know what other types of experiences it might provide.

I've tried mescaline a few times via San Pedro. It is a very bodily and earthy type of trip. My success at consuming a strong dose was limited, but I think it is a different creature than the other two.

 

Shrooms are quite organic. The hallucinations are very.. shiny, moving, breathing, growing, actually to put it simple they're very organic and natural seeming. Closed eyes patterns seem detailed at first but when looking better they consist of rather simple blockshapes. High doses (or just strong sorts) are certainly deep into the mind, they can cause strange sorts of confusion, but the deep thoughts are worth it (so are the visuals).
The only nasty thing on shrooms though must be the body-trip. I myself hate feeling cold, although being rubber can be funny.

I have very little experience with acid so I can't compare too well, I had one mushrooms trip with visuals being comparable to acid on some points. It is indeed more detailed, and in general just MORE. The natural feeling like with shrooms isn't there with acid. I know people who say shrooms in some way can be harder on you then acid, they said that acid is mostly just strong visuals but I guess it all depends on the dose and person (same goes for shrooms, I know people that can actually manage to go bad on them).

Mescaline I don't know about.. really. I never took it.

I can advice a high dose of mushrooms, like subsort hawaiians (ehm copelandia cy..something) 1-2 grams dried. I had a 10 hour mushrooms trip with insane visuals on that, the only time a drug made me forget who I was for a moment...

 

Mushrooms are analog. A gram of some will get you blitzed and others it could take an oz. even if they were all part of the same pound or stock. LSD is digital there is a certain amount in a certain dose all from one sheet od book will be the same.

 

I was going to bitch about such an old thread being resurrected, but it was actually a pretty interesting read. And I really like this quote:

 

i heard someone explain it as like

"acid is like a japanese cartoon where you have no idea what the fuck is going on,

mushrooms are like an episode of peewee's playhouse

and mescaline is like scooby doo"

that'll probably only makes sense if you've done atleast 2 of the 3..

 

I used to think psilocybin was the better drug, then I did acid. Does not even compare...

Mushrooms are weird. Love them once in a while, but the set and setting has to be perfect, if not I get unpleasent and anxious feelings all night. For me, mushrooms have a very earthy feel and a very apparent physical component to them. I get lazy and lethargic on mushrooms and I rarely like going anywheres far. Also, I find myself constantly plagued by upset stomachs, chills, and disturbingly uneven thought patterns. I can never get comfortable. The visuals I really like though, nice and chill with an emphasis on autumn colours such as reds, oranges, and yellows. Sometimes green. Lots of weird face-morphs, and objects distort at funny angles and always look either too big or too small. I want to use words like bubbly, squishy, and gooey when I think of mushie visuals. For me, a mushroom trip is a full-body ordeal, and I just think the trip is too messy and really confusing for me.

LSD, on the other hand, is very spacey and brainy.The come-up is nice and slow to allow you to get used to it and I love how trips are 8+ hours. Mushrooms come-up too fast and the peak is always too chaotic and just fucking melts your brain. LSD melts your brain, but it does it nice and easy. No physical discomfort whatsoever, the thought processes are relatively linear, and I feel as if the trip is always meant to be an adventure. Sometimes on acid, my sense of concentration can be amplified and I always have a sense of duty or a goal in mind. Also, acid is the funnier of the two drugs, cause I get mad giggles. The visuals are always the best part, and I'm constantly in awe of my surroundings. Whereas mushroom visuals are often strange and unreal, LSD visuals are always seem perfect and are more enhanced rather than distorted. Words that describe acid visuals are sharp, flowy, smooth, and wavy. LSD produces more on the colour spectrum for me, with blue, red, green, and yellow being the most pronounced. Definately LSD is the better drug.

If mushrooms were the Earth, then acid would be the Sky...