beginner looking to start hitech garden looking for opinions !

im looking to star a garden soon im debating wether to buy 600 hps or 1000 hps ? which do you think will give me the most grams per watt ? i want to construct 2 room setup flower room and veg /clone roomthinking of mothers finest ak 47 bubble gum strawberry cough sour diesel isis and nevilles haze if someones willing to help me this is a hobby of mine and im willing to invest just about anything to have a killer system my goal is to yield approx. 12- 17 lbs per harvest if your a pro let me know what i really need to achieve this

 

8 600-watt lights

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4 400-watt lights?
Dude, that's 6,400 watts.
Do you realize that much increase in Kw use will red-flag your pad at the utility Co?

Plus, you said this was a hobby.
47 plants ain't a hobby. That's approx. 4.5 lbs every 3 months.
That's a commercial grow op.
I'm not criticizing, just commenting.

If you've never grown before, you're going about it the wrong way.
Growing indoors especially ain't all that easy.
You'd be much better off starting a small grow, say 12 plants. Get your feet wet before plunging in.

To answer your Q's:
Match lights and sq/ft. 50 watts per sq/ft is what to shoot for.
How much space you need per plant depends on what style you intend to grow with.
NFT, DWC, EnF, aero or soil?
"Standard", SOG or SCROG?

My suggestion is to start off smaller. Set-up a 4' x 5' growchamber for instance, install flo-thu ventilation, hang a 1k HPS and stick 12 plants under it.
Get some grow guides and read until you think you can't read anymore, then read some more.

Either/or, I'll be happy to help. Hit me via the Yim link.

 

hey whats up its yeaimaplayboy actually the setup im really looking for is a 12- 17 lbs harvest every 70-90 days what lighting will i need and so forth dude im ready for this ive been reading for a year now and researching i believe im ready hook me up !!!

 

Something funny here,leo is in the house.With questions like that its obvious.

 

^^^^ 17 pounds? inside a room? with lites? thats so crazy its unfcuking believable hahaha

 

17 pounds inside isnt impossible, just improbable. Unless you have about 50k watts and a spare warehouse.......................

 

A friend of mine is running 2 x 130w fluros and 8 x 600w HPS in a house and reaping approx 1 lbs per week.
So...... if you have the money, the 'warehouse' and the balls, GO for it my friend.
You'll never, never know..... if you never, never go!

 

Smells like bacon in here.

 

Send me all your money promise i will spend it wisely?

 

by my calculation you'll need 210+/- square feet of floor space in the flower room to produce 17#'s. as far as lighting 10 -12 1Kw HPS lights running @240vac. this is just th' beginning, for that many plants one needs a feeding/ watering system otherwise you'll be carrying buckets all night, OH! yes I said night "electricity is cheaper @ night, Oh! running that much power you'll need a seperate 100 amp circuit installed by utility company...etc.etc.etc.

 

Check out www.Growtronix.com using automation you achieve the results you are looking for without nearly as much effort of trying to get such a large room to run on timers and mechanical controllers

 

You can do about 10 punds every 6 to 9 weeks with a hydro system and 1 1000W HPS light if you have around 12 plants that are good strain.

You will need a good hydroponic system and an intellidrive light rail system that will drive the light around fom plant to plant very slowly.

That is a setup I just put together myself with maylar covered walls.
The entire setup costs about $3,500 to put together including ph and TDS testing equipment, hydroton rocks and nutrients.

Let me know if you want some pictures or more detail.

-marclar

 

10 pounds dry every 6-9 weeks off of one light? Even if you finish two crops in 9 weeks, that's 5 p's a cycle. 5 pounds off of one light every flush? Not to mention only 12 plants, so 6 a cycle? = ~1 pound per plant under one 1000w. no.

 

I'd expect for no more than a pound a light. Two pounds is common with a well tweaked setup and a fair amount of experience. I've also heard of as much as 3 pounds a light, although I wouldn't ever expect it.

17 pounds, if you know what you're doing could be done with 9000 watts. That's just the lighting. Nowadays they have a thing called heat imaging. So a guy will want an air condtioner, probably a 5 ton water cooled unit. The startup will cost tens of thousands of dollars. With a sealed room you have the benefit of no heat signature, escaping odors, or noise. You do need to supliment the air with Co2 though. Co2 burners create a lot of heat. Air conditioners use a lot of power and water. Both which are monitored by the law.

It's not an easy dollar, and the risk is large. :|
..but if that doesn't detour you; good luck!

The payoff can be large if done right.

 

Dont forget a few things: 1) What strain are we talking about? 85% Sative will produce 5foot plus plants...do the math..you can get close to 16 oz per plant if you keep you nutrients and pH levels checked every 3 days.

2) the single light moves from plant to plant and gives each plant an adecuate amount of light at all times. It is also repositioned verticaly daily.

With 85% indica plants you will have about 8 oz per plant this way which is roughly 6 pounds from 12 plants every 7 weeks.

 

I'm not forgetting anything.

First of all, growing a sativa that yields a dry pound indoors, is nigh impossible for a beginner. Even experienced growers wouldn't be able to do that without elevated ceilings. A five foot sativa is tiny and will in most cases produce a laughable yield.

Second off, light movers will improve yield, but you're still only using 1kw. Your figures are near maximum yields; just cause the seed bank says "x oz per plant" doesn't mean that's what you get no matter how many plants.

And third, when you get a half pound dry per plant, on 12 indicas, every 7 weeks, under one 1kw light, please call the snowman from hell. He might fill you in on how to harvest in april in new england. You'll have to use speakerphone though cause it's gonna be tough to open up your hand after that much clipping.

 

I get five pound of thai buds of my 3 plants under a 10KW light every 7 days. The area is 2 foot squared my medium is broken glass mixed with sea shells they are fed once a week with fermented cactus juice.

 

Buff, you're just too funny!

 

buckets full off rocks, pumps and 10,000 watts hung verticly, add in 9 plants and it is doable