ChemTrails!

It seems to me that chemtrails are a growing problem and people just don't want to realize that it exists. Basically, chemtrails are contrail looking things that are sprayed by millitary type planes. The USA, Russia, and China are behind this horrid act. The chemicals are barium and alluminum. The theory behind it is if there are more metals in our atmosphere, then controlling the weather is an easy task. Governments can use this as "weather warfare." The problem is that these chemicals are speeding up global warming. They are making the holes in our atmosphere larger. Also, the chemicals have devistating affects on humans and other living things. I was wondering how people felt about the subject?

here's an intro to chemtrails for those who have no clue as to what I'm talking about.
http://www.educate-yourself.org/ct/
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/ctstheproblemandthesolution1mar02.shtml

 

I read the sites you sent. I also went into google and searched a few other sites on chemtrails because I had never heard of them before...But there are no real reputable sites that talk about them- the ones that do are all home made.
I also checked out Wikipedia. It says this is only a theory, started in the 1980's and the only real public notarity has been on two radio shows, which often air paranormal and conspiracy theory topics....so i don't know if I believe in it.
Sounds a little far-fecthed.
Wiki had this to say:

Skeptical groups, including the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, assert that contrails normally exhibit a wide variation in appearance and that the descriptions and photographs of "chemtrails" are perfectly consistent with those of ordinary contrails ([4], [5]). They also voice various objections to the idea of chemtrails:

Some skeptics claim it would require a massive cover-up operation involving hundreds of thousands of aviation employees, service businesses, airlines and/or military personnel, atmospheric scientists, and meteorologists all over the world.
Depending on what the alleged purpose of the chemtrail spraying would be, spray released above 30,000 feet is likely to be highly unpredictably dispersed due to high-altitude winds. ([6]).
Assuming drugging the population is the purpose, some ask "why not just drug the water supply for a fraction of the cost"? Drugging the public via chemtrails would surely be extremely expensive and inefficient.
How do aircraft accused of depositing "chemtrails" manage to pass inspection without the deception being discovered?
Official and governmental bodies have consistently denied the existence of such spraying (e.g. [7], [8]) — although if such a conspiracy existed, such denials would be expected.

 

wow, sounds coming from a sf movie.... i wonder if this is really true...? if it is, then, yeah, i just say one thing, drop out from the matrix....

 

Chemtrails are the biggest load of shit I've ever heard.

 

then how do you explain the "contrails" in the sky that don't go away? Contrails are suppose to disappear, but chemtrails hang around for a while.

 

How about saturated air, if the humidity is at 100%, clouds don't go away.

What do you think is in chemtrails, and what is their purpose?

 

The amount of time a contrail lasts is dependent on the wind conditions and the temperature, you often see contrails last for long periods of time from commerical aircraft. Barium in particular is a very heavy element and I can imagine would fall to Earth quite quickly, so the doping would need to be done very regularly.

 

Regardless of whether they are chemtrails or contrails.... they are a sign that the atmosphere is changing. The trails are increasing.

I am more on the chemtrail side. But then again, I have taken thousands of pictures over the past few years, as I live in a highly saturated trail area. All the nay sayers can say what they want... I am willing to bet that they have not been watching these planes through telescopes, taking pictures of the white KC-??'s spraying, and documenting all the trails! Kind of something it is hard to believe untill you actually see it for yourself!

I have traveled all over North America, and chemtrails tend to frequent in certain areas.

Everyone has thier different conspiracy therories that are going on.

Some say that it has to do with weather control.

Some say that it has to do with the super heaters and HAARP type structures. They think that certain countries are using these sprays to deflect the systems transmissions of other countries.

Some think they are trying to manipulate weather and stop global heating.

And.... one of my favorites.... The government is trying to find aliens who fly around in our skies with technology and crafts that are invisible, with very little emmisions. The planes spray certain particles that can show thier movements, and they try to triangulate where they go.

More on the triangulations. THOSE are too frequent to be coincidences in alot of places. Some say that they spray to tringulate the entry point of hostile nations "haarp" system's ion beams.

Who knows!

Something is going on either way!

Az

 

Do you use a random word generator? I guess I cant say for certain that they dont occur, I have no doubt there is much we dont know. There doesnt seem much point is releasing viral/bacterial agent that high in the atmosphere it might get killed, much better in let it spread its natural way. A chemical agent unless very powerful would almost certainly disperse far to much to be of any real use. Im stuggling to think of a physical reason even if some 'ion beam' did exist ions moving through the atmosphere at high speeds would make the air glow an unearthly blue colour as they ionise oxygen molecules in the atmosphere, it would probably be the least secret, secret project of all time. The only thing I can think of is some weather effect like seeding clouds, though again any effect would be so short lived that it hardly seems worth it unless your flying through the weather your trying to influence.

Also looking that one of those websites looks to me like planes have flown through cirro-stratus or cirrus clouds which themselves often look like contrails except with one giveaway. Both are long thin shapes and can remain for a long time however obviously a cloud usually has a thick edge and thin edge while a contrail is more uniform often with a 'dent' down the middle from the fact that there is a fuselage between the engines. Also as a contrail is effectively a cloud they can remain for long times if conditions permit.

 

Now that I think about it, I do believe in chemical spraying in very small terms, to help with weather, mainly to lessen the impact of serious storms, but these would not leave trails in the sky.

 

well silver iodide has been put into clouds before to help water droplets form and increase rainfall. Though its not used anymore as it doesnt make anymore rain just makes what will fall, fall faster, i believe.

 

i've seen some pretty massive chemtrail activity around here.

 

finally some people know what i'm talking about! Chemtrail activity happens in highly populated areas, so if you don't live in these types of areas then of course you're not going to believe it.

 

i live in a highly urban populated area, but thats beside the point. Anything as exotic as the stuff you named making it to ground level would show up very easily on air monitoring systems.

 

You still have not told me:
1) what's in them?
and 2) wha'ts their purpose?

 

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138949

 

lol

how do you figure?

I don't exactly know why chemicals are dumped from the sky, but they are (I've tested soil samples when I used to work at Eberline in NM...we used to find all kinds of shit that isn't normally found in soil)

 

such as and in what concentrations?

 

such as various nitrites (i.e. aluminum nitrites), and in conc. >30 ppm.

we mainly tested for radiation in soil (contracted by DOE), but mass spec brought up a lot of peculiar substances.

 

What was your control in these experiments?