do dealers realy sell only shit?

Discussion in 'Amsterdam' started by furball666, Mar 13, 2006.

  1. Neuro

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    Hmmm... Never tried to get acid in the Dam. Being a class A drug I would assume that it's rather similar to posession here in the U.S. Unless you hit the right type of show (and most times even if you do) you need to know the right people to get the real thing. Most of the shit that gets passed off as acid is not or is so cut to shit w/ strychnine etc. that I wouldn't even bother if I was you. Even at "Dead" shows, most of what is passed off as LSD is crap, not like back in the day. Unless you know the source (shout out to N. Cali.) don't think you're getting anything close to what you think you want.
     
  2. Bong_boy

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    furball666 - dude you are a kid - those dealers are gonna feast on you - you have a knife for protection - well done you giving them something to kill you with. you need to sit down and get your head right, you are going the wrong way - we all well not all but most of us like drugs but i think it's people like you that give other people the wrong idea about drug users. I have read a lot of your posts and honestly think you are crazy.
     
  3. furball666

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    hahah man youre just over reacting or probably you got very funny idea only about my posts.
    And i am not total virgin to drugs ;)
    dont worry i am definetly coming back in one piece..
    and its not just about getting your head full

    my flights leaving 7.6 so in 2 weeks ill be in the dam. for month possibly 2 months. and i have super crappy budget. ill be legaly adult next thursday .

    wish me luck

    now after some editing this is looking better. yeah and i dropped crack off from the list and added beloved opium. let see what i can get i have realy small budget so i can only try some.
     
  4. DavidPNutt

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    I am calling Shinanigans with this dude. No one is this dumb!
     
  5. Bong_boy

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    Dude you really are mad
     
  6. VegasPat

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    You know dude, I've read some pretty naive posts from you. I know you're "no virgin to drugs" however from a safety standpoint consider this...man you are looking at a potential world of pain.

    So you're going to have a friend test your treats before you purchase...fabulous...that leaves you with 1 man down in your 2 man outfit...secondly as far as reaction times are concerned let's see, the dealer gets to reach into his pocket first retrieve his product-if he pulls a knife (most street dealers don't carry guns...hefty penalty and too costly to dump into the canals if being shaken down) what is your reaction time like, especially with a friend compromised by the effects of bogus drugs - possibly poison?

    I'm happy to hear you're thinking about arming yourself;) as far as self preservation is concerned this is truly the stupidest thing that has come out of your mouth ... have you ever really stabbed someone before? It's up close and personal my friend...and unless you know what you're doing...you have to stab a guy a whole lot of times before you stop him...think what the dealers' buddies are going to be doing to you, or worse your friend, while this is going on. Stop puffing your chest...no dealer gives a toss about how big you are...he'll cut you quicker because of your size.

    After being in AMS for " about 2 months on a crappy budget" and all of these treats, you're physique will probably not be as well muscled as before and you're probably going to have to sell that nice leather jacket of yours. I would think it reasonable to assume your judgement may be affected negatively as well.

    I thought you were going to AMS with the intention of enjoying yourself?

    I'm not trying to tell you how to live man. I feel each man should find his own path and follow it...but you're all of 17 with a potentially long life ahead of you...acting like the talking like you're doing in these posts will increase your probability for hardship greatly. You came to this forum requesting advice...heed it. You don't have to agree with me..I'm no angel and I don't know everything...but I am well versed in dealing on this level of humanity....and I've lived twice as long as you and then some.


    No you don't have to agree with me...but everyone else who has posted has
    offered advice to mind yourself and possible reconsider your intentions...we can't all be wrong.

    All the best,

    VP
     
  7. furball666

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    yeah, well ½ of the stuff i say is humour.
    but i think knife would be useful you know just as warning i mean i dont think i look like the easiest target (well less than avrage british tourist),

    but i would prefer not getting mugged.
    so do you think knife would just piss the dealers more?
    I mean i was thinking of getting knife for cutting cheese and fruits anyway so i could buy stiletto or a hunting knife while i am at it. not so sure anymore as i can see your point.
    oh and sorry if i seem like an asshole sometimes my life has been pretty stressful but now finally i am getting to amsterdam and all is well. (teenage angst is mostly dead atleast)
     
  8. VegasPat

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    Dude...humor is a great thing and "I'm over the moon" happy to hear you're open to looking at things from different perspectives...as far as the knife thing...I really wouldn't be "warning" anyone with a knife, this is just asking for grief man...the old saying, "Don't pull it out unless you're going to use it" really applies here.

    Yeah keep one in your room for cutting food stuffs or if you plan on camping/tenting whatever...but really, if you don't have a knife on you, you can't use one...all I'm saying is that, in my opinion, avoiding trouble leaves you happier in the end...I have an absolutely horrible temper if pressed and wouldn't even think about bringing a blade with me...I just know it's better for me to have the knowledge that I need to avoid trouble and although I have lived in a "macho, tough guy world" I have no regrets in taking a more peaceful road and no one of any consequence to my life has ever looked at me as less of a man for not needing to fight or avoiding physical conflict.

    Furball if you carry yourself with confidence and use common sense you'll have no problems with the dealers...predators tend to prey on the weak...don't make yourself an easy target and you'll get along great.

    Enjoy your trip...I'll be over in 3 weeks...staying at the Bulldog with a few buddies.

    VP :)
     
  9. SinPusher

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    Great advice. Heed it..

    sp
     
  10. xtremepsyche

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    It's really not that complicated Furball.

    1. They are dealers, they want to make money. Most drug dealers, worldwide (actually) do not fuk with their customers because it is business and it hurts their reputation and potential to make more money. Most dealers are in fact very friendly and would want nothing but you to be satisfied with the product, because they want you to come back and buy more. In addition, in the dealing world, a dealer who fucks with a customer is likely to meet trouble from other dealers because that one idiot dealer is ruining it for the rest who are really trying to sell properly.

    2. Do not even bother carrying a knife. Because if you get pissed off, you might actually pull it out and cause something even bigger for something that could been dealt with a simple yelling back and forth. By not carrying a knife you remove the potential of a stupid unnecessary conflict. The dealer like you, wants a smooth and uneventful transaction. Plus, if you're visiting Amsterdam or any city, you are in a new place and you have no clue who the dealer knows in the area and how fast his back-up could arrive. It is best to AVOID conflict at all times, being macho will not get you anywhere in a strange-new world. You can be macho on your own turf only.

    The bottom line is, if you are worried just don't take too much $ with you and if you do, keep your cash hidden. Never pull out a wallet or anything, pull out only bills and make sure you make it known that you have a mobile phone indirectly. If I approach a dealer, I may approach him whilst pretending to be on the phone. I may end the pretend call with saying something like "yeah ok cool, i'll see you in 5 minutes around the corner, safe." I 'hang up' the call and then I talk to the dealer. This gives the dealer the impression that (even if I'm alone) that I have back-up very close-by and the dealer has no clue how big this back-up might be. This helps avoid any unnecessary stunts pulled by the dealer.

    3. You can test the product before OR you can offer to buy a smaller quantity (cheaper) first, test it at your own leisure later and say you will be back. You'll be surprised at how many dealers stick to their own areas and will not be impossible to find if you come back. If you're lucky you might even get a phone number which is even better.

    Now, the reason why many dealers may refuse to let you test before you buy is not because they are worried you're gonna catch them out on bunk shit. Don't assume that because he doesn't let you test that it must be crap. This is usually not the case. It is because if you do test and then say you don't like it, you just wasted their goods by the test. Being a dealer myself in many countries before, I can tell you there are many situations where a client tests, actually does like the stuff but doesn't have the cash to buy or just wanted a free sample. This is why free tests rarely happen. A dealer with the best product may not let you test because of these reasons. If you are unsure about the quality or what you are getting, don't buy or buy small (this is the assumed risk you must take) and ask for a phone number (AFTER YOU BOUGHT!!! VERY IMPORTANT). The dealer is more likely to give you a number after you bought and the cops didn't come jumping out of the bushes because then he will know you are a real customer. No harm in asking and chances are you WILL get a number because many dealers do carry phones that are unregistered/pay as you go, giving them a degree of anonymity and if you give the impression that after you take home the small purchase and test it you may be back to buy BIG, you will probably get a number. I only gave numbers after a successful transaction (even if small) and if I had the impression this guy is probably going to want more later during his/her trip. I'd rather be the person they go to then they go to somebody else.

    4. Look the part. Don't dress like a million bucks. Wear a hoodie or something less flashy, this will actually make your transaction smoother and will reduce nervousness for both you and dealer, because you would look more like friends just talking. If you're dressed in a suit and your dealer is dressed in a hoodie, to an outside observer, your relationship would look clearly suspicious, this can make you or your dealer very nervous.. If you're dressed fancy and looks like you got lots of money, you could pretty much expect the price will go up on you. Then again, you may also find dealers that are dressed like tourists, this is to give themselves cover and sometimes also help make you feel comfortable.

    Don't be afraid of approaching a dealer/group of a maximum size of 2-3. Sometimes dealers work in groups to help their own cover. A guy quietly standing by himself at a corner looks more suspicious than 3 guys standing by the corner chit-chatting. Of course you go with what you're comfortable with.

    5. Don't be afraid of black or other ethnic people. Now, I don't mean to sound racist, but being a person who isn't white (and isn't black), I can tell you that why many people are afraid of approaching a dealer is because of how they might look and/or the perceived risk. Yes, most of the dealers you will see will probably look very different from you, some may look exactly like you. You must be confident and trust me, us non-white people are impressed by white-folk who approach us with lots of confidence and knowing exactly what they want. Don't look desperate either. When you approach a dealer knowing what you want, the dealer will give you respect and is unlikely to over-charge you. They may talk to you in a different style of way that may appear to you as being rude/aggressive but just understand that is just the way they talk because of the people they hang around with. It is unlikely they are deliberately being rude to you. If you feel the dealer is, just say "do you want to do this or not??", you take control of the situation by repeating whether he wants your business. You show the dealer, you are doing HIM a favour and not the other way around and you tend to get better results this way.

    You start getting ripped off when you walk to a dealer scared/desperate and asking stupid questions, I remember once a tourist approaching me in the U.S., asking me how much it would a joint of marijuana cost this big (holding his fingers up indicating the size), clearly a rookie that didn't realize it is sold by weight not size of joints.

    So I went with it, rolled him up one and charged him probably $10 more than I would have. Not really a rip-off but I could have easily conned him another $20, looking at his desperation.

    Look at the dealer, if he looks like a junkie, don't buy from him. Junkie's would never sell you their good stuff and good dealers never get high off their own inventory
     
  11. koopa

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    Pretty long reply to a 4 year old thread :)
     
  12. jimmyjoe1

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV7kaaB7Z8M"]YouTube- Amsterdam Coffee Shop
     
  13. jimmyjoe1

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    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTluSiuiOs
     
  14. ChronicTom

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    I got this far...

    Seriously, you may want to stick to cocoa puffs (the cereal) for a bit yet...

    The first real dealer that you find and walk in thinking that shit above, will sell you the shittiest stuff he has, and LAUGH in your face if you whine about it...
     
  15. dommo_freo

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    Hi there,
    Sounds like good advice, common sense to many people, but not all obviously considering the original thread! I was in 'dam in 04 and scored some very good coke and e's off the street, dealers were just walking around saying 'charlie charlie coke?' to anyone who appeared interested and sold good coke for around E40 a gram. can anyone comment on the quality/price of it now? I am going there tomorow for 5 days.
    Also, what is the deal with shrooms now? I heard the shops all got shut down, but find it hard to believe they have been phased out completely.
     
  16. 420

    420 Stoned Immaculate

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    dommo_freo,

    Just look for a SmartShop, and ask for "truffles". Similar high to 'shrooms, but still legal thanks to a very tight legal definition of "mushroom".
     

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