Alaskan Arctic National Wildlife Refuge

Discussion in 'Endangered Species and Ecosystems' started by Namaste, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. Namaste

    Namaste Member

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    The U.S. Senate passed the 2007 $2.8 Trillion bugget, which includes opening up the Alaskan Wildlife Refuge for develpoment and drilling.

    Stupid fucking government...
     
  2. drumminmama

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    http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7537792p-7449459c.html

    not specifically ANWR, but close enough.
    I have had it to my freaking eyebrows with this admin and this Legislature.
    We are at war with no rationing, we'd rater drill in pristine land than flush the Permian basin or god forbid, look at REALLY using renewables.
     
  3. gandhiwars

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    95% of the Artic Refuge was already opened up. It was just the last 5% which this pertains to now.
     
  4. ClosingTide

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    It was going to happen eventually. All this land's getting sold and being developed on. The sad thing is we are letting this happen...
     
  5. streamlight

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    You all piss and moan, but I don't see any of you getting up to stop this.
     
  6. luvhuffer

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    Right now there is a major oil spill going on in the Tundra of Prudhoe Bay. The pipeline has been leaking since March 2nd and has already spilled an estimated 260,000 gallons of crude, making it the largest spill on land ever. Where are the stories about this in the media? Buried in the back pages or as footnotes to other articles. Why was the lone Democrat who voted for this bill coerced into signing by being offered revenue from the drilling to rebuild the coast and provide aid for her Louisiana constituencys coastal reconstruction? Nobody's getting up because nobody knows what the fuck is going on. This bill was passed in the senate but not yet in the house. Write your congressperson. Let them know how their vote is going to influence your vote in November. This isn't a done deal yet. You can read more about this kind of crap on my Mother Earth page on my site. See my sig for a link. I update it once a week. That's the best I can do is try to get the word out.

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    How do you know what I do? I work for PIRG and I stood outside for about 30 hours a week trying to stop this, raising both awarness and funds for lobbyists...

    So why do you say these things? You don't know what any of these people do.
     
  9. streamlight

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    I never said that I knew what they were doing, but usually, people will advertise that they did something... 30 hours? Wow, do you want a cookie?
     
  10. drumminmama

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    ^^knock it off.
    You said no one was doing anything, and I know how bad the pay is at PIRGs.
    That he spent 30 hours of his work week for awareness says yeah he's doing something.
    ANWR is the most tracked spot of endangered land and LOTS of folks are working hard to keep it in the spotlight.
    My focus is Roan Plateau, but I keep Alaska on the radar, too.
     
  11. HuckFinn

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    Well said! My wife happened to hear about this spill on NPR, but I saw nothing in the newspapers or on national TV news. Here's one of the few web stories I've found:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0320_060320_alaska_oil.html
     
  12. hippie_chick666

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    Thanks for the info Luvhuffer! I never heard anything about it either. I checked out your website and like it. I can't believe this is happening! Has the leak been stopped yet?

    Peace & love
     
  13. flmkpr

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    wtf i never heard about it either!! so what are they doing just letting it leak?
     
  14. luvhuffer

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    The last I heard was the wind chill was -70F hampering the clean-up. There was supposed to be monitoring and leak sensors on the pipe, but the owner BP (as in BRITISH Petroleum) is not sure if the system was working or not. Which brings up another new pail (My dad used to say the more you stir the shit pail the worse it stinks). If the U.S. needs the oil in the ANWR so bad, why do we have foreign companies pumping the oil in Alaska, and (this will bum you out if you didn't know it) selling it in Asia. That's right Alaskan oil gets sold in Asia by BP who then turn around and buy it from Mexico. Alaskan oil, so I understand it, is heavy crude which is more expensive to refine than the Mexican light sweet crude. So BP makes extra money on shipping charges for the Alaskan that is bound for Asia, and then uses the extra profit to buy more quantity from Mexico, then, adds the cost of shipping it from Mexico, to the gas after it gets refined. And of course all this shipping is being done on BP tankers. Or to paraphrase Frank Zappa "we were buns up kneelin' and BP was wheelin and dealin."

    By the way write your congressperson and tell them we don't want ethanol gas made from corn. We want it made with hemp which produces 3 times the bio-mass per acre of corn. I noticed they are pushing the corn gas on TV now as the next great thing. And if they are worried about the hemp being a drug, then they never smoked k-pot from Kansas! Undetectable levels of D9-THC, but great headaches.

    EDIT: They are saying now that the spill occured on a major Caribou crossing. Also this is all I could find that was current on my RSS News feed

    In addition to the congressional battle over drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, another battle is taking place over a previously untouched corner of the National Petroleum Reserve on the North Slope. The Bush administration is allowing oil companies to prospect for oil and gas in an area of 389,000 acres. Environmental groups have filed a lawsuit, attempting to block that plan. The lawsuit contends the Department of the Interior has violated the Endangered Species Act and other laws in an area notable for its large flocks of migratory geese.

    Source
     
  15. hippie_chick666

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    Right on, luv. Do you have any links to hemp fuel sites? Any books to read about it? Seems like a viable source of fuel...

    Peace and love
     
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    It's not that they are owned by the people doing it, its that they are catering to there viewers, if everyone who watched fox wanted to hear about oil spills, then yea, it would be covered.
     
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    If you take General Electric Corp. and look at it's energy division and a few more you will see that it is up to it's eyeballs in lucrative government contracts. All the government has to do is threaten them with those contracts getting cut off, if it doesn't play ball nice with the Bushits crowd. That would include not saying nasties about them. Then just look and see that General Electric owns NBC, and you immediately see why you can't trust NBC to be unbiased. All the networks are the same. Faux (Fox) News is the worst. They are sleeping with the administration.

    I remember when I was young I was taught how the dirty commies controlled the press so the Russian people would never be able to know the truth about what was really going on in the world. Well now it's the same here. Guys like Enviromental News Network and Environmental News Service that FreakyLady mentioned, are some of the very few options left, from an environmental standpoint. If you want a truly unbiased view of the world and what's going on, check out The Christian Science Monitor. They are great! I subscribe to their daily headlines e-mail newsletter (it's free) and Reuters for most of my news now.
     
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