Do bras cause breast cancer??

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by DejaVoo, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    lol!!! i was talking about the toxins thing.... with the lymph nodes and such and how bras supposedly clog them or whatever, etc. :D lol sorry fer the confusion.
     
  2. Genesis

    Genesis Member

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    maybe thats why people say you hsould not wear a bra at nightime
     
  3. LaurelBayTree

    LaurelBayTree Senior Member

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    women wear bras to bed? that must be quite uncomfortable.
     
  4. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Oh, OK, Ed. I see. Yeah, that is a theory, but not proven, yet.
     
  5. Leo

    Leo Member

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    What I don't find in this thread is the difference between prevention and cure.


    Dr. Elizabeth Vaughan's disclaimer is pretty clear: the fact that the American Cancer Society hasn't found a link (yet), doesn't prove that there is no link. Neither this society nor any other medical institution dealing with cancer ever made any investigation on prevention. That's no blame. It's just not their mission and they have another urgent prioroty: cure. So none of them is in a position to give whatever valuable advise on prevention. The fact that they don't warn against bras is all but an argument. Even "early detection" often sold under the label of "prevention" isn't prevention at all: prevention ends at the very moment that cell growth turns malignant. Then the goal is to detect the illness as soon as possible in order to cure it: take the tumor away and timely block any possibility for spreading around. And that's their only mission.

    The idea that bras cut off the lymph flow is correct. Even right sized bras cause undeniable visible edema. But it is probably not the most important part of the lymph flow problem because it only affects the primary lymph vessels right under the skin (lymph nodes are not blocked). But bras have other effects: they intentionally limit the natural movement of the breasts, and that movement is the only way to propel the lymph fluid throughout the body. That's a real dangerous effect. It has in the meantime been proved that fibrocystic breast disease heals by going brafree for a month or so. And there is in the meantime also medical evidence that patients tending to develop cysts are more likely to develop cancer (published in The Lancet, contradicting Ruth Oraz's and Susan Love's statements mentioned in above links). No direct cause-and-effect relation thus, but an indirect one. The production of melatonin, oxytocin and oxymoron is triggered by the skin: pressure on the skin and lack of stimulation of the areola all have proven to negatively affect that production. These hormones are antioxydants that apart from well known effects such as regulation of respectively day/night adjustments or lactation, are also operational in our immune system. It has been proven that breastfeeding moms are better protected against cancer. Bras disturb that defence/immune system. The point is: how much can that system have? Where is the treshold? It differs from one to another.

    There is still more. Bras interrupt the natural cooling, which is based on evapoation in a skin-to-air contact. Breasts are external organs that need to be kept cooler compared to the rest of our bodies in order to remain healthy and perform properly (just like men's testicles, by the way). Bras cause hyperthermia that can mount up to a couple of degrees centigrade. The effect on the hormone balance is being studied at the University of Glasgow. Whenever it proves to alter the progesteron/estrogen balance, then we have a direct cause-and-effect relation with breast cancer.

    So it's wise to be carefull and to stay at the safe side. Bras are unnatural and unnecessary. They are even useless to conserve the youthful look: they take over the action of the Cooper's ligemants, causing them to atrophy. Artificially supported breasts tend to sag more and earlier than unsupported breasts...





    There is good general information on the breastnotes website http://www.breastnotes.com particularly an article by Ken L. Smith, breast health facilitator: http://www.breastnotes.com/aware/aware-bra.html



    Apart from the long list of medical publications by Elizabeth Vaughan, there is a timeline on ​

    http://www.susunweed.com/An_Article_Bra-disease.htm


    Brian Sanderof gives following advise:

    Listen... here is the bottom line of all of this. It is high time that we start taking responsibility for our own health and the decisions we are making in our lives. If you want to wear a bra... wear one! But, I think it is omportant that you know all of the facts and dangers that may be inherent with that decision. Go explore it for yourselves. Get the book Dressed to kill and read it. Digest it. Be challenged by it. Learn from it. Discard it if you wish.

    But don't you dare be duped into believing that because someone has specific initials after her name or that some society or organization that is big and well funded has all answers. They don't. Neither do I. But I am willing to look at all the nevidence, regardless of whether or not that information challenges conventional wisdom. Remember, it was the same medical community that told us in the 50's and 60's that baby formula was better than mother's milk that today tell us that mother's milk is best. Of course mother's milk is best... it's only common sense. Want some more common sense... take a look at your body after you remove your bra that you've been wearing all day. That should all the evidence you need!

    (Your Prescriptions 4 Health: Articles - Responses to "Ban the Bra"[IV of IV])
     
  6. Lilyrayne

    Lilyrayne Chrisppie

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    I've been wondering about the bra=breast cancer thing too, but I guess we'll not know for sure for a while.

    I will say this much though, regarding the ligaments thing:

    For a while, I used to wear nothing but camisoles for "bras". The kind I wore didn't really provide any support, as they weren't tight or constricting or anything. I just wore them to round out my pointy boobs a bit and help hide nipple boners. My boobs were a decent shape other than the pointiness, firm, and never really bothered me when NOT wearing my "bras".

    Then, I decided I got sick of having tits too small for my frame, and wanting to look sexier for my husband, I started wearing "real" bras. Underwires, a bit of padding, everything. They weren't as comfortable, but turned out not to be that bad. But then after a while I noticed that walking, jogging, or anything like that began to be uncomfortable WITHOUT the "real bras" because despite their small size, my boobs would "bounce" a lot and it hurt. I guess you could say I got addicted to the "support", but I'm guessing that because those bras did all the supporting, my boobs got lazy. Now I am even more sure of that theory because my boobs are taking on a different shape... a more droopy shape. I'm thinking I will go in between and wear loose fitting sports bra type bras so that I get a little more support and shape but not so much that my boobs go flat!
     
  7. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    Personally, I don't believe it. I don't wear bras anyway, because I think they are ridiculous--- but, I think this is a little absurd.

    Cancer has nothing to do with your boobs being squished.
     
  8. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    The Theory, which I am not sure I beleive or not, is not about "squishing" it is about prevention of lymph drainage, which, in many studies can lead to several types of cancer.

    There needs to be more information, though.

    I have a freind who is recovering from breast cancer. She refuses to wear bras, or even shave her armpits, as there are theories about microcuts letting in pathogens. She was the perfect looking girl in high school. It is amazing that she would even think of going braless or not shaving. But, she is willing to do anything, proven or not, to live, and to survive for her newborn son.
     
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