Men superior than women?

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  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Women will always be under the power and mercy of men because men have sexual and physical dominance over them. This does not by any chance mean hurt, abuse, disrespect, or make women any less, it is just nature.

    Women are powerless when it comes to sex because nature forces them into the submissive and passive role. Could this be the reason why many women suffer from abuse and harassment?

    Men feel a sense of power, ownership, and entitlement when penetrating a woman. Could this be the reason why women were once not considered persons?

    Are female species meant to be abused, oppressed, dominated, and neglected by males? If you look at the animal world, the human female has it the best.

    Many movements have arisen to counter these beliefs but are they merely covering the truth that males have advantages over females?

    For a pimp a woman is a mere object to be sold for sexual pleasure to generate profits. Without capitalism would women subject themselves to such environments? Workers sell their labour power/ mental labour to live, should selling your sexuality be in the same boat and standing?

    There are men who think it's their natural/god given right to penetrate any woman they like with or without her consent as along as she is not the spouse/property of another man. This kind of world existed not so long ago. In the Arabic world, men married hundreds of women and collected women as trophies. Mohamed come along and said barbaric men you are only allowed to have four wives with conditions and women you are to cover up and conceal your bodies for your own safety. Today the burqa/hijab is a sign of oppression but back then it was a sign of liberation. Today the world is heading back with the conservative anti-choice abortion movement which basically tells women you have no ownership over your bodies, it belongs to the "unborn," "men," and "society." Rape? so what, your body is meant to be abused.


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    A lot of women are now single, childless, and single mothers could this be the result of mainstream men's backward mindset? You are either a whore, or a mother?

    Society portrays women as less could this be because of the above beliefs?

    The feminist movement failed to address a lot of philosophical questions.

    Sexuality affects how we think and act more then we realize.
     
  2. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Society celebrates male sexuality but demonizes and degrade female sexuality and this is conveyed through language by words like bitch, whore, slut, hoe and others.

    The meaning of these words might have changed and become gender neutral but they originate from sexist, misogynistic, and chauvinistic times.

    Is nature unfair to females or was this nature is intent?
     
  3. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    controversial issue....
     
  4. Wond'ringAloud

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    Yeah, well......gave me a chuckle!
     
  5. liguana

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    Physical dominance is straight forward. Sexual dominance is more vague. Some women are more sexually dominating than some men or use sexuality to both dominate men and for their own pleasure, this has been the case for all of history.

    In the mammalian class yes but that doesn't speak for the rest of the animal kingdom. There are whole genres where the female is more dominating.

    And many a war was started cos of that. There's a reason why civilization EVOLVES to address women's concerns. It's vulnerable women, women without protection of male family members that were preyed upon mostly. Preying on a woman with connections generally gets the perpetrator beaten up.
     
  6. Inquiring-Mind

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    Sexual dominance socially it is vague. But, sexual dominance in the biological sense. Man = the penetrator, woman = the penetrated. Man = the doer, woman = the giver

    agree

    This could also explain why on average women are more humane than men.
     
  7. Jedi

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    The very idea is revolting, your argument has no basis or a plausible premise. I can say that a woman is enjoying the penetration, she is the enjoyer, there is nothing stopping me here, the woman is served, while the man is the server then, what do you say to that? There is no sense in playing on these types of ideas. What you should focus on, if you are really into feminism is bringing an awareness, join a group or start to volunteer to help out or do something, trying to bring awareness in your own community, although this might not be easy, if you are driven to do it, you can, until then, you wll continue to dwell in your own delusions.
     
  8. Green

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    Natures intent was to make sure we make lots of babies.
     
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    The problem with Feminism is that it focuses on making women equal (not feminazism, thats making women more than equal to men). What the feminist movement should focus on is the abolition of gender roles. Have guys wear dresses and stuff like that to get rid of it.

    "Men feel a sense of power, ownership, and entitlement when penetrating a woman. Could this be the reason why women were once not considered persons? "- Not all men feel this way.

    "Are female species meant to be abused, oppressed, dominated, and neglected by males? If you look at the animal world, the human female has it the best."- No, they were however meant to have babies.

    "Many movements have arisen to counter these beliefs but are they merely covering the truth that males have advantages over females?"- What advantages? Men are generally large than women, and that is it. It is single, not plural. Men have an advantage over women because of their size. There are many tall women and little men though.




    "For a pimp a woman is a mere object to be sold for sexual pleasure to generate profits. Without capitalism would women subject themselves to such environments? Workers sell their labour power/ mental labour to live, should selling your sexuality be in the same boat and standing?" - Without Capitalism they probably wouldn't have to resort to prostitution. Thats what governesses had to do back in 19th century England after the kids didn't need to be taught anymore.




    "There are men who think it's their natural/god given right to penetrate any woman they like with or without her consent as along as she is not the spouse/property of another man. This kind of world existed not so long ago. In the Arabic world, men married hundreds of women and collected women as trophies. Mohamed come along and said barbaric men you are only allowed to have four wives with conditions and women you are to cover up and conceal your bodies for your own safety. Today the burqa/hijab is a sign of oppression but back then it was a sign of liberation. Today the world is heading back with the conservative anti-choice abortion movement which basically tells women you have no ownership over your bodies, it belongs to the "unborn," "men," and "society." Rape? so what, your body is meant to be abused."- Women aren't meant to be abused. Some men think that way, but not all. Women are supposed to have babies, but not be oppressed or abused by men.
     
  10. liguana

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    Inquiring-Mind, being physically more powerful than women is enough to sexually dominate women. But if physical abilities were equal would men still be the sexually dominant, I'm not so sure?

    Mammalian males have evolved to be larger than females to compete with other males, not to dominate females.

    When it comes to human sexuality one has to discuss sex in all its entirety and that includes foreplay. Foreplay does not exist only in the human species, other primates engage in cunnilingus as well. That means that cunnilingus has been part of human evolution right from our early ancestors. What you're describing about sex, the feeling is the same for either sex IMO whether it's cunnilingus or penetration or vaginal orgasm. Many women describe cunnilingus like being the penetrator. Foreplay is a very important part of human evolution.

    If a man does not engage in foreplay or otherwise satisfy his woman/women, other men will happily step forward and fulfill the void :). Thus the gratuitous man is not sure of paternity, indeed he may will be fathering other men's babies. Paternity uncertainty alone is enough to encourage men to be the best lover they can be. The better lovers generate the most babies who carry on with these same characteristics. Natural selection favours superior lovers, not gratuitous men. The evidence is the current situation, which does not just happen in a mere 200 years but has been playing out throughout evolution. And most men receive satisfaction out of pleasing their partners rather than taking a woman for their own selfish needs.

    Someone here said 'men serve women', that's a very old phrase. It's been well known to most ppl throughout history and not just since the sexual revolution that men are the pleaser, that's cos men have it easier so they put their efforts into pleasing the woman hence serving the woman sexually.

    And men have used foreplay rather than rape for eons to get sex cos foreplay and courtship cost less energy than preying on women and risk getting beaten up by your tribesmen. Men also use the protector role to charm or win women so the rapist provides an opportunity for other men to come out as heroes.
     
  11. heron

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    HAHAHAHAH! man, you're not married are you.

    Women are the power of sex.

    Spiritually women have us, sexually, women have us.

    All we have is extra upper body strength, that doesnt equate to superior.
     
  12. verseau_miracle

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    Firstly, apologies as ive only scanned the original post, and not read fully, but i think i got the general idea...

    And i think that the idea of women always having to play a more submissive role (men being "superior to women") because men are physically stronger and generally sexually more dominant would be true, were it not for the fact that sex and physicality are not everything. Not anymore.

    I believe that human beings are evolving spiritually, and the more awake and aware we become, the more we will be in tune with parts of us which are higher than pure sexuality and instinct. Which is why we have laws against things such as rape, sexual abuse and paedophilia.

    Women are just as "strong" as men in the areas which truly matter, and which will(hopefully)continue to matter more and more in human society.

    Xx
     
  13. ihmurria

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    :D You're awesome


    this just seems like a post designed to rile people up, so far as I can tell
     
  14. ambiguous

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    everythings a load of crap there i said it lifes horrible whatever
     
  15. mr.morrison

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    some women may be submissive during sex, but not all women are copmletely submissive to men, women are tricky people. they know what they are doing and most have a way to get guys to do what she wants
     
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    thats why guys buy women jewelery and chocolate and do shit like that. women know that a guy will do almost anything for sex. so she uses it to her advantage. this shows where the REAL power lies.
     
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  18. Aristartle

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    This thread is retarded. Men aren't biologically superior to the other sex - end of discussion.
     
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    i beg to differ.

    Ron Burgundy: I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.


    It's science, afterall.
     
  20. Aristartle

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    You chauvinistic jackal.

    wtf are you implying?
     
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