most visual chemical

Hi, I've never done any RCs but from what I've read some produce intense visuals with a "clear high". I know with LSD or shrooms, I don't get any visuals untill i start to loose my mind.
So my question is: is it possible to have intense visuals without being too fucked up?

 

nope.

and the most visual chemical: DMT, hands down.

 

You can get very strong visuals from 2C-E, but the high isn´t that clear any more, if you get to doses, where the visuals become really interesting.

My personal favorite for really cool visuals is a Methylone / 2C-E combo, but this is only suitable for very experienced psychonauts!

 

Most visual closed eye: DMT by far.

Most visual opened eye: 2CT-7

"So my question is: is it possible to have intense visuals without being too fucked up?"

It really differs from chemical to chemical. 2C-I can be fairly visual without sending you completely over the edge. But it really feels empty in a way. Mushrooms on the other hand, tend to be completely impossible to get intense visuals without other very strong effects. But that's what they're all about.

You're not likely to find a chemical that gives you amazing visuals, while the rest of you feels completely sober. But mushrooms and 2c-e are really on an extreme end of the scale. Acid, for me, can be extremely visual without being too out of it. I'm obviously tripping hard, waves of euphoria, but not lost in my mind. There's nothing stopping me at all from just staring in amazement at the visuals which look as real as day.

But if you're already "losing your mind" without much hint of visuals, you just might not be the visual kind of person, and I'd recommend embracing the other good qualities of a trip instead of hunting for this one. You may find yourself further down in than you'd like to be, for the wrong reasons.

Take care...

 

think so? I always thought 35mg 2CT7 was similar to an acid/mesc combo; very colorful streamers comin from my keyboard, some geometric qualities, but I didn't see anything that wasn't there. I did with 55 mg DMT

freebased DPT was sort of like 2CT7, but it only lasted about 20 mins, rather than 8 hours

 

I would think 18 mg range of 4-ho-mipt prodcues profound shrooms like visuals but my mind always felt nuetral... I was certainly more sensative to things in the enviroment and higher doses could be disorientating, but overall it was "clear", not pounding thoughts like shrooms.

 

how would DOC do concerning this subject?

 

salvia is pretty visual...

 

pfft. Yea so is dramamine.

 

haha..

yeah, the "visuals" of salvia are vague...you "see" something otherworldly, but your mind can't quite process it, because you're in such a stupor.

 

Were you joking there? I know nothing about pills, so I'm not sure. All I know is there's two bottles of meclizine in my med. cabinet right now and if I've been waiting until spring for the morning glories to come out so I can have some fun all this time I might just lose it.

 

LOL yes I was being sarcastic.

 

Haha, alright. Thanks for not trampling me to death for my tardness. I don't have to go crazy now...

 

lol, yea don't take dramamine to get high. You'll be saving yourself from a hell of a fucked up trip.

 

i found 2ce to be the most visual closed eyed.
dpt most visual open eyed

has anyone tried 4acomipt? i am looking into this chem and wanted some opinions

thx

 

I think they would be similar, like i said though very pronounced open eyed and closed eye distortions

 

Well, the visuals are almost similar...

 

in my experience 2c-e has been the most visual and profound rc i have tried.
In fact i consider the best psychedelic drug after LSD.

 

2C - E is can have pretty intense visuals...and it's not too intense for someone who hasn't tried RC's

 

agreed. it's very impressive for open eyed visuals

dpt is similar to dmt; personally, i think the short acting tryptamines are more practical for hyperspacial exploration than the substituted phenethylamines (the 2CX compounds); dpt is definitely my favorite rc.