protest for womens rights in south dakota

thats why

 

think before you speak,just a thought

 

Are you just talking to the main vibe you're feeling or what? I can't discern anyone these insults are based on. Streamlight, your former bitch, hasn't posted in the last two pages. And as far as I can tell, Justwow hasn't said anything to offend you. Maybe you oughta take your own advice?

 

Where did all these republican babykillers (Iraqi Babies) come from? This isnt a site that you really expect to find hoards of Bushites swarming the posts, but I guess the world has gone to hell. I hear that in many communities in the united states, it is cool to be conservative. At least where I come from, cool and conservative are mutually exclusive. This scares me, it shows that the Neoliberal propaganda machine has reached its goal, and now all those poor Americans are falling victim to it like the German youth of old. Sad sad thing to happen, and at one time America had such a great potential to be a good, decent, non-fascist country. Tragic waste.

 

By the way, one thing we do need, if we want less abortions, is readily available Birth Control of all kinds. Not stuff you have to even walk to get, but rather free good pills in the poorest areas. More condoms as well would help with the AIDS crisis. Why dont Catholics believe that AIDS exists?

 

although my spelling may not be good i can read nalancer!!he called me a stupid hippy bitch,and he posted earlier today and to be honest had a half way decent idea,get your facts straight!!!
this thread is suppose to be about womens rights
not that either of you really care
remember its a poor people thing
support pro choice!!!!
after all i dont recall a man being able to give birth

 

i was raised catholic with a very deep((santeria vibe))
i believe in aids,one of my closest friends has it.i agree totally in the distrubtion of condoms,esp to inner city youths.aids is an epidemic!!!it will eventually come knocking on everyones door..we cant be scarred to educate our youth,yes i said our youth!!
instead of taking them on field trips to see the zoo,take them to shelters and safe havens where they can have real show and tell.some times you have to actually see it to believe it........i truly believe education is the key,and we should all be concerned about children today..if we dont show them the way who will?

 

I am not pro-choice per se, but I respect pro-choice people's approaches far more than pro-life. As I have said, Pro-Choice look logically on how the issue affects the poor, and they are not pro-abortion, but rather think that the choice is not theirs. Pro-Life think the issue can be solved with laws and Jesus. I think that many abortions that happen are needless and selfish (they have enough money to support a child, but this conflicts with their consumerism), and some are even forced upon women by their spouse/partner. This is a problem. However, on the other hand, most abortion affects the poor, and they are the oppressed class who have enough on their shoulders as it is, they can not have children at that point, because the child would likely starve. I mean, illegal abortion at this point would result in higher infant mortality. I am not poor, and nor would I have sex with a person unless I was sure that we would not have to make that choice, because if I aborted my child, I am sure I would feel a torrent of guilt through the end of my days, and so would any woman I would be with. This is because I easily have enough to support a child, and I have also the oppurtunity to bring that child up in a loving atmosphere. Abortion is not meant for the rich (I am not rich rich, but rather middle class, which is really the upper end of the Proletariate, I do not have any capitalistic power, therefore am not bourgeois). Even rape and incest are problems which the poorest unfortunately suffer the most. It becomes clearer and clearer, to make the world a better place, we HAVE to eliminate this crippling disparity that exists today. If the wealthiest shared their wealth with all the people, then everyone would live in comfort and oppurtunity. Workers of all Countries UNITE!!!

 

spoken like a very wise man..

 

If the law is pro-choice everyone wins expect for conservatives who would like to legislate morality.

 

I'm not going to apologize to you if you don't apologize to me, and another thing, let the wire hanger thing go, its in the past, you obviously don't see the humor in it, let it go.

 

You called me a stupid republican prude, so don't get on me about calling you names, its getting us nowhere here, and spitting in the face of all republicans, yea, thats not closed minded at all.

 

This is an unethical, yet popular argument for choice. Frankly, I think it fails miserably by judging the value of life based on possible outcomes in the future. An ethical argument for abortion would be compairing a woman's absolute right to her body with a fetus' possible right to life (since no one can decided on when the rights of personhood should be attained by the fetus). For me an absolute right by the mother trumps a possible right of the fetus. That is my justification for being pro-choice.

 

A man can be wise?!

 

I don't know why you people still talk to fabioula, shes obviously crazy.

 

yes thats me the loca" liberal hippy bitch,some men are absolutely from the stone ages...im crazy?at leas i do nt go around calling myself crazy tony!

anyway i didnt start this thread for petty arguements,for one reason and one reson only womens rights!!!i appreciate everyones input regardlees if i agree with them or not,u see its not about me&u its so much bigger than that....all im asking is to give a women to have complete ownership of her own body..i dont think abortion shoulbd be used as birth control,but i am pro choice.seeing that they are trying to pass this law like wildfires i feel a need to reach out to my brothers and sisters..get invovled write your local newspaper and make your cummunity realize the truth,write your congress men explain to them why it is so important to at least leave the option open for victims of rape.women we can not sit back and become shrinking violets,stand up,stand up and fight for the right of your body.

they'll never hear us if we dont speak up

 

I do not believe that abortion is either a fundamental right or a fundamental sin. Those who find themselves stuck between a rock and a hard place (usually victims of the system) should be allowed the escape, but more focus should be payed on eliminating the circumstances which trap them, which is usually poverty, but also unprotected sex at very young ages, therefore birth control should be extremely readily available to girls (and boys for that matter) of all ages. On the other hand, there are some women who have unnecisary abortions because its just easier for them. This would represent the people who just go in for them as if it was no big deal, and have the same attitude as they would have for a checkup. Women who do not want a child for reasons of consumerism and selfishness should not have any more right to an abortion than I should have the right to a free heart transplant (my ticker is in good order). Abortion is neither a right or a sin, it is a crutch, the crutch of modern classist society. Surely it does help some poor women in the short term, but no abortion has ever put food in any womans stomach. So these are my thoughts on the subject, and this is why I am neither pro-choice or pro-life. Frankly both sides have a bit of crazy self-rightuousness in them, On the one side I have heard pro-choicers say "Its not a fucking human, its a maggot and deserves to squirm. kill it and watch it bleed!!" and on the other I have heard pro-lifers say "We are doing the will of God, all who disagree with our cause will burn forever in hell where maggots shall infest their brains for eternity. For God is merciful and all loving.". They both have a bit of crazy, but all in all, I find that there are more pro-lifers who are rabid crusader christians than pro-choicers who relish in the sufferings of aborted babies (in fact, that was only one person I have heard say that, and nobody was really too fond of him), so to pro-choicers, I say if you want people to not be turned away from your cause, please take all the religious motives out of it and argue with people on common ground. Most people in the world are not practicing christians, so you will not win over many supporters by claiming Jesus is on your side. Explain with logic how a law against abortion will stop it from happening.

 

im not sure how religion got put into this, but i agree education is the key1and no i can not explain with a piece of logic a law against abortion will stop it,it wont.it will only lead us to a rather grim reality

 

So... what's it like being your father's bitch?