Women are losing again...

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by Libertine, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I love sex as much as anyone. Probably more than most people. I also love to dominate or submit during. That's all well and good.

    I also don't have a problem with anyone wanting to have sex with whomever they want, calling themselves a "bitch" or "slut" or whatever. I don't think prostitution should be illegal.

    BUT!!!!

    I am getting damn sick and tired of the regression of our culture to the point that women seem to be getting the same type of treatment from pop culture. Either an "object" or an "ornament".

    I am sick of hearing guys talk about "their bitch" or "their ho". I usually lose it then. And end up saying something like, "Look, you sick fuck, a woman is not a piece of goddamn property, ok?!? They are HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS and they do not BELONG to you, asshole! Furthermore, they are not "hos" and "bitches". If there is any bitch here it is YOU, asshole motherfucker!"

    Yes, I am pretty cool and laid back guy, but that shit pisses me the fuck off. My mother and my grandmother, my girl friends and my wife are the most beautiful HUMAN BEINGS on this earth and I wouldn't trade them for 40 times the amount of male friends. Ok?

    I am so sick of seeing women getting treated like objects and ornaments on this fucking music videos which glorify money and elitism as well.

    I believe in free speech and if a woman wants to be a whore, that's her game, but our pop culture is endorsing, promoting and supporting the degradation and downplaying of women STILL in 2006!

    What the fuck has my lady friends been fighting for? To go from the "little woman" to the "ho"? From "my old lady" to "my bitch"?

    I swear to god, I want to kick the shit out of these cocksuckers running around treating women like meat.

    My wife and I are EQUALS. I am not the "king" and she is not the "knave". We are two people who respect each other and are completely honest. We don't lie to each other --even about the little things such as "How do I look in this?" We are honest, but not hurtful.

    I am just tired of it. :mad:
     
  2. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    Go Libertine! Good stuff!
     
  3. GreenBird

    GreenBird Member

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    I really wish more men felt like you do.
     
  4. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Thank you, Libertine. Just that post shows at least some progress has been made. But, of course more needs to be made. (Not by you, by society in general.) Part of the problem is girls and womyn who think men treating them like you described is OK, or normal or to be tolerated. Girls who think they have to shave their pubes and look like a child only for the reason that "no guy will have sex with me" or allow themselves to be exploited in movies, music videos, TV in real life ect are so much part of the problem, as much as the men who think this way as well. Movies which make prostitutes look "glamourous" like "Pretty Woman" set womyn's rights back 30 years.

    Loving sex never harmed womyn or men. Hell, I love it, too. The problem isn't SEX. It's hatred of gender. You see what the problem is, and it looks like you are part of the solution. The first part of solving a problem is knowing it exists, and then getting angry about it, and then doing something about it.

    Thank you for that inspiring post. :)
     
  5. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Thanks so much, Libertine. My husband and I have this converstaoin quite often, and it is good to know there are other men out there that realize this as well. Raise your kids right, hope they raise their's right, and hopefully soon we will overwhelm the other's with sheer numbers, and women will be more to american society than eye candy for men.
     
  6. mamaboogie

    mamaboogie anarchist

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    wow! :cool:
    Yeah, the key is to raise your kids to respect people, all people, no matter whether they have a penis or not, no matter how they are different from yourself. Sounds like your parents did a really good job raising you right! :)

    a very wise person once told me to marry a man who treated his mama the way I wanted him to treat me. She said that a man who treats his mother poorly would treat his wife the same way. In my experience, her advice has *always* proven to be true.
     
  7. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Libertine, your post was invigorating. Knowing that there are men out there that respect women and realize the way the media and society portray women is DEAD WRONG. My boyfriend and I talk about it on occasion and it's pretty sick how society portrays women as sexual objects and it oversexualizes our children.

    We as women need to speak up for ourselves and stand up and say, "This isn't right", also.

    Thank you for your post Libertine :)
     
  8. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i totally agree with you Libertine. you took the words outta my mouth, couldn't have said it any better.
     
  9. Sus

    Sus Hip Forums Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Libertine, it's been said in all of the posts above, but I'll say it again...thank you. It's good to hear those words... :)
     
  10. seamonster66

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    luckily I don't know a single male who does this, I do remember wanna be suburban gangstas talking like that in high school, but that was a long time ago
     
  11. fabioula

    fabioula Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    libertine,if only more men could see it with open eyes like you...and i love the fact you said your wife is your equal,to me thats so deep!!!!!!!!!!please spread your knowledge to more men...
     
  12. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    yea. your right liberatine. good post
    but what the fuck is up with people typing womyn? its women. thats how it is. its stupid that this feminist shit is getting out of control. i agree that women are equal to men in every way possible and they are being degraded. but to fucking change the spelling just because it has the word men in it is pretty dumb. maybe you should change more words too! like mynstrual cycle, myntos, mynice,myntal, mynthol. god damn
     
  13. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Well, not me.

    I must be an alien.
     
  14. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Don't tell me what I do, man. You're not in my head.

    I don't "prize" females because I don't see them as a possession. I ENJOY THEIR COMPANY, but I don't see them as something to be "won" or "conquered".

    I don't believe in "winning" their love either. Infatuation begins and can evolve into a deep love without the sports allegories.

    And I am as straight as a razor.
     
  15. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    dude, if i could get the most beutiful women in the world to fall in love with me, id feel like i conquered one of the biggest thigs in the world man. of all the men in the world she would choose me? damn too bad it wont happen
     
  16. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    yea, whats up with attempting to win someone's love, thats for chumps
     
  17. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I don't go for the old "male role" and "female role". That shit is out the window.

    It's two people who love each other and experience each other.

    It's two people who see that differences in each other are beautiful things and that they compliment each other.

    Females are not prizes or property. I know that is hard to wash out of our brain which has been filled full of macho-traditional horseshit.

    But, the truth needs to be told.
     
  18. seamonster66

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    I agree with you libertine, which is why I always did better with the ladies that those macho horseshitters ;)
     
  19. Midget

    Midget Senior Member

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    BRAVO, Libertine...great post! :) Between the N word, and always hearing about bitches and hoes...sometimes I wonder how I made it through highschool with out going crazy. :p Well, I guess I am crazy...but never mind. :) Why do so many girls put up with that? :(
     
  20. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I don't know. Maybe lots of girls go for that type because they have been conditioned to believe that if they act a certain way and ruin their lives these men will change.

    But, that seldom works.

    The only other thing is that some women just like to fuck with non-caring brutes. So, more power to them (the women, that is).

    I don't really care if someone chooses that. It just bothers me that our society and culture helps to CREATE and MAINTAIN that image of women.

    It's bullshit.
     
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