Teacher caught in Bush "rant"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Inquiring-Mind, Mar 8, 2006.

  1. Megara

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    they are not adults.
     
  2. Megara

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    exactly why it has no place in a classroom. His opinion is not what he is being paid to teach.

    they also call them whistle blowers, heroes, and people of conviction. When a person blows the whistle on Enron they are called a hero. When a kid blows the whistle here, he is called a rat, a snitch. How ironic. Chances are that this teacher has made his classroom an anti bush forum and this kid grew tired of it and got evidence. I highly doubt this kid just carries a recorder to every class hoping someone MIGHT say something bad. It is far more logical to believe the teacher has done this before.

    Let the teacher publically apologize and promise never to do it again and let him keep his job. If he wont do that, then he should be fired.
     
  3. scratcho

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    Megara--I think you're mistaken.There comes a time when men of conscience must speak out,regardless of venue.This ,I believe ,is such a time.
     
  4. Inquiring-Mind

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    Listen to the tape: "I am not in anyway implying that you should agree with me. I don't even know if I am necessary taking a position. What I am trying to get you do is to think about these issues more in depth and not just to take things from the surface and I am glad you asked all your questions because they are all very good vital questions."

    A 16 year old is old enough to face criminal charges but not old enough to think for themselves, analyze, and investigate information?! Only in America.


    Sounds like a good teacher.
     
  5. Inquiring-Mind

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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1679439
     
  6. Megara

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    no, a good teacher teachs what he is paid to teach. He failed. If he cannot do what he was paid to do, he has no place in a public high school. If he wants to be an activisit or teach something that is not on the curriculum, he can do it when he's not being paid for with my tax dollars.
     
  7. scratcho

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    Megara---- You don't see the value of a teacher stepping out of his assigned role and speaking his heart to his pupils?Even with what is taking place now?Would you feel the same if he was pro-bush.Would I?
     
  8. GanjaPrince

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    This teacher sounds interesting and I support him... however it is hard to defend because it was in a geography class, if it were in history of AP politics or something like that, it would be easier to defend, because both highschool teacher I had in these classes were very vocal about thier opinions.

    However I remember highschool teachers always venturing into different terrortory that is off topic. I mean fuck it, I would defend a person being pro-bush in a geography class too... we should give teachers more freedom to go off topic once and a while...

    Now if he went off topic too much, and gave 10 minutes speech about bush every morning thats another story. Then it is obvious he is highjacking geography class for personal political reasons, and it would be impossible to defend that.
     
  9. matthew

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    by saying it IS the truth..
     
  10. Megara

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    Sure, after class. I would talk to teachers/professors after class and get their real opinion. If they, however, went on a pro bush or anti bush rant i'd be peeved. I'd like to know what this guy was teaching that brought up 1) bush, 2) hitler, 3) iraq/afghanistan, 4) capitalism, and every other thing he brought up that is not directly pertinent to the study of geography.

    And yes, if this guy was going on how george bush is the savior, fighting for the little unborn babies and protecting the sanctity of america by trying to ban gay marriage i'd say the same thing.
     
  11. Inquiring-Mind

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    At least he taught something beneficial unlike most teachers.
     
  12. Megara

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    i think we can gather from the fact that this kid brought a tape recorder into class that the teacher made it a habit to bash bush/america.
     
  13. Inquiring-Mind

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    The teachers I remember the most and learned the most from are the ones who steped out of their assigned role.
     
  14. Megara

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    look, i'm not trying to gut the powers of teachers to talk about something outside of the textbook their using to teach. We must, however, keep things appropriate. I dont see this as appropriate for a geography class. If we're in a class teaching economics or say contemporary history..sure, the teacher can inject his opinion as long as he makes it clear that it is merely his opinion.
     
  15. synaptic aether

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    fucking hell it's like eveything i hated about highschool flashback! what the living fuck... i can't believe how fucking RETARDED kids are. the teacher answeres all his questions but it's just to goddamn complicated (???) for the kid to understand... he gave enough history of america's involvment in the middle east to make anyone go "ohh... well... ok" at least and the fucking shithead says "but they attacked us first!" what the fuck?!

    holy shit fuck

    i can't come up with enough obsenities..

    a great example of almost half the reason i just had to drop out.

    i think the teacher does a great job. aside from getting a little riled up, i don't think he's being bias. he poses most of his opinions as questions and he gives little "disclaimers" for the others. everything he says is true and i never like to use the phrase "is true". that kid is a fucking moron. i know the type...

    astronomy teacher: "...when people believed that the world was flat"
    kid (being serious): "wait, you mean... people like, didn't believe in hills and mountains?"
     
  16. Inquiring-Mind

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    Maybe this teacher actually likes his job and is not thinning out a curriculum over a year like most lazy teachers do that could be taught in a few months to teach his students other interesting subjects. I had teachers like that.
     
  17. Megara

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    i seriously doubt you could cover the whole topic of geography in 1 high school year considering people go to college and get PhD's in geography.

    virtually everything at the high school level is viewed at a glance....if he wants to be a good teacher, he should expand upon a subject of importance WITHIN the field he is teaching.
     
  18. Inquiring-Mind

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    Good is subjective so he probably thought what he was doing is good. I do not consider informing your students on current events is bad either.
     
  19. Inquiring-Mind

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    Anyhow, now all America can listen to this tape and learn something.
     
  20. scratcho

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    I can see that Megara is a stickler for "the rules".
     
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