Salvia and your mental health

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by SaintStephen, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. SaintStephen

    SaintStephen Member

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    Just an idea...

    Could one's salvia trip be a mirror image of the state of your mental being. Perhaps some people generally have good trips because they are mentally sound and overall good people.

    Perhaps some people generally have bad trips because they are mentally unsound and overall bad people.

    Perhaps Lady Sal, who makes her appearance quite frequently is really our own consciencness in a temporarily tangeable form.

    It's almost as if Salvia was a judgment drug. Do bad people generally have bad trips and good people generally have good trips?

    Just an idea...
     
  2. soulpiercer7

    soulpiercer7 Member

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    I have had the same thought. I really don't know but it makes sense. The only problem is, psycoactives don't make sense.
     
  3. slangshot1

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    if thats true then i gotta get ahold of some of this to see if im good or bad
     
  4. moka9x9

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    Salvia tends to make me confused, unable to speak proper sentences, unable to understand things, have blurry vision, and see everything in pairs of twos or fours. Once I relived the past 20 minutes of me and my friends walking and me taking my toke, but everytime it was slightly diffrent because at the same point I would say or do somthing diffrent, and a diffrent outcome would arise.. kinda like showing me what I could have done better.. but oddly in a situation that nothing stranged happend (execpt I smoked salvia, in one reality I never smoked it, and I just sat there and my friends left and I felt alone?)
     
  5. somedude

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    I don't think it has to do with a person being an overall bad person. It seems to me more likely that people who are out of touch with or avoid their shadow sides, then the shadow is what they are going to experience under the influence of psychedelics. Everyone at some point will have negative trips or parts of trips. Doesn't mean your bad or evil, just human.
     
  6. redgreenvines

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    people have so little idea about what they are
    generally
    good
    bad
    are these meaningful in a salvia context at all?
     
  7. JamminJim

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    heres the conclusion ive come to about psychedelics and good and bad trips. if you are happy and you dont have any problems in life then you will have a good trip. if you life is a bit complicated and you have issues you are working on currently it will definatly decrease your chances of have a good trip. i never have had a bad trip on anything before but i tried salvia the other day for thew first time and im having some family problems right now and i had a pretty bad trip.
     
  8. somedude

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    I don't even know if good/bad trips are an effective way of describing Salvia. The shit is crazy and neither good nor bad, just crazy. I always feel lucky in a way that I was able to make it out of the trip, whereas with acid/shrooms/dxm when I come down I usually wish it had lasted longer.
     
  9. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    IDK I've never had a bad trip on anything, one time dosed out on like 6 blotters I could imagine what it was like, and I like wrote this long ass thing in my notebook cause suddenly so much made sense, but I think that notebook was stolen by police. Also been really sick lately, not going to get into it, but symptoms first started appearing when I was dosed out on acid like six months ago, and that didn't even make me have a bad trip. And I am by no means, a completely good person, or have a life that I am satisfied with. I think like someone else said in different words, when people don't accept the shortcomings of life, or of being a human, that they're a bit more likely to have a bad trip.

    moka9x9 describes the same shit that happens to me on salvia, IDK it's pretty useless for me. Seems like it does the trick for some people though.
     
  10. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    i don't know; I don't think so.

    salvia was much more bizarre than any trip I've ever taken. I definitely hear you on the introspective aspect of acid, but I really don't see how that would have any bearing on a salvia trip. set and setting are a useless as a tic-tac.

    also, salvia has a certain affinity in the brain, in an area where acid barely even tickles... kappa receptors, where it competes with endorphin binding; that's why the experience is so odd, and dysphoric
     
  11. redgreenvines

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    acid just gives you more time to recover from your misapprehensions.
    salvia lets you get it all wrong immediately.
    you can jump right into the quandry
    then in 5 mins emerge as a drenched rat
    you get no time to compose an intellectual context
    or to negotiate a better position.
    pure natural quandry, with all the annointed hyperspatial frame stacking you can or cannot handle.
     
  12. silenceinc

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    nice question - i have had the same thoughts on salvia ... it feels like salvia just CUTS your personality in 2 ... 1 is your true self - the other is your ego self. and they get talking together :) ... so no ghost or angels - just a split in your own psyche. but i don't really undertsand the salvia vision - so i don't know.
     
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