Yeah im looking to set up a small salvia test with me and a few friends and i am wondering if any of you know jsut where i can start. i am looking for small, medium and high dose levels of salvia (and i am not talking about extract amouts {i.e. "20x"} all of my test will me administered with 20x salvia extracts). Any suggestions?
i jsut want to see if it can be fully psychedelic at high doses. i mean, salvia divinorum always has psychdelic properties, but i want to know if it can be FULY PSYCHEDELIC. any advise as to dose amounts? are you an experienced salvia user?
very experienced. what do you call fully psychedelic? this does not replace anything else. salvia has a very short time window - within one minute of smoking the right amount you have accellerated at a strange angle into this oceanic moment and collected a strong speedboat wake of set and setting, matter takes on different qualities and vision of familiar strangeness takes over. a few minutes later you have returned - having touched the heart of life or having been touched by it. it is no long drawn out thing. not a party thing. if you dose less than optimal - nothing. if you dose more than optimal - embarrasment and amnesia. for salvia you need to find your optimal dose not some high dose (work up from a small amount carefully), and the expectation shall be for a short experience possibly only with some lasting impact. what are you testing it for? most who test large doses swear never to try it again, often surprised they have even survived (though it is truly the least toxic of all psychoactives)
are you talking about the dried leaves? i think you may be. salvia extract (27x is good) is pretty damn psychedelic. in fact, it just takes you and does what it wants with you for 15 minutes or so. take a bong hit of the stuff and si'down.
i tk hes talkin like aobut will a hit be good enough to trip or will u need a bowl and like how much hits cna u get completely fukd up on,, am i wrong?
If that's really what the O.P. means ... Then to the O.P.: I suggest you get something much weaker than 20x for this test. A single large hit of 6x (1/2 of a small bowl, or less) is more than enough to make my shit hit the fan. Other people are even more sensitive to salvinorin-A than I am (like redgreenvines for example).
none of you understand. i am A VERY EXPERIENCED PSYCHDELIC USER. i have done LSD 5 times, Psilocyben 3 times, MDMA 4 times and i have donesalvia upwards of 10 times. i know the effects of Salvia Divinorum. quite well, after stating those facts, you all have no idea what i am talking about. and taht is my fault. i amnot some 12 year old kid who smoked weed a few times and thought atht trying salvia is "what the cool kids do" or "something cool to do at some party somewhere". fuck that. i am running an ACTUAL DRUG TEST with four colligues and i am looking for suggestions from other EXPERIENCED SALVIA USERS on what might be a large dose of 20x exract, a medium dose of 20x extract and a small dose of 20x extract. i hope i have made myself more clear now.
snarky? hmmm... well. there are other experimental factors to normalize. i.e. please get specific on the pipe. & get specific on the smoking style inhallation rate and volume, holding duration. & get specific on the subject weight for your four person test which will be a statistical failure by virtue of being too small a sample. so who is taking this seriously...
Doing a few drugs doesnt make you an experinced psychonaught. Learning about the drugs, respecting the drugs (& you're body), it doesnt matter how many times you use the drugs, its what you learn while using the drugs, if you're like me and do DXM ten hundred times, and still havent learnt anything but that DXM can cause brain damage, well you havent been respecting that drug, or you're body.. But although I'm no experinced drug user, I'm a very experinced drug abuser.. No I'm not boasting.. I'm not proud, but its the truth.. Maybe you have learnt alot, but my advice is (as I've smoked salvia many times) is to start with small hits. Seperating each full-blowen trip by a day or two, just to recover, right after you have a trip, you're next trip will most likely be more intense due to Salvia's reverse-tolorance.
P.S. Get a mini-scale and weigh you're salvia product, if you get 1g (of 20x), that should be about 50$ (canadian) and in regular hits, about 16 tokes. So if you buy 1g, and split it into 16 equal peices, that would be small-medium hits. Anyway, Have a good night.
thanks alot moka. i heeded that warning long ago, before i ever started experimenting with psychedelics. i always do extensive research before jumping head long into a psychedelic experience. once agian thanks.
I don't think you can say you are VERY EXPERIENCED when you have tripped on acid 5 times and shrooms 3 times. That seems a little exaggerated. There are people on here who have been tripping for decades, which would count as very experienced. Not that it is a contest or anything.
You could be a clouded, horrible person, who tried LSD-25 once, and was changed forever, to be more caring, to love people and animals, you could learn how to cry and let out you're emotions.. you could fall in love with someone and become a brilliant person.. I believe this is a true exeperince with drugs. Thats what everyone wishses their trip would leave them with, but the truth it, a ego death, or reaching sigma wont help you in the reality of things, ITS YOU, YOU'RE BODY, AND YOU'RE MIND that's gonna get you places. And you're welcome Tarantism, be carful and give full warnings to you're labrats cause if one of them has a bad trip and ends up in the hospital, and it gets out, people will think that much less of Salvia, where trying to keep this sacred plant legal and inexpensive for all (experinced enough to use it) to obtain.
Maybe if you dont want a full-blowen Salvia trip, he wants to test this shit, then he should take good tokes, none of this 100 hits to a GRAM. Thats like crumbly's for each toke...
Smoked Salvia divinorum Dosages (5x Extract) Light 1/20 - 1/10 g Common 1/15 - 1/6 g Strong 1/8 - 1/4 g So if 1/15 of a g of 5x is normal, then 1/60 of a g of 20x would be equal, so I suppose you could get 60 normal hits if you planned it out good, but I rather just blow my mind out.. up to you...
