"The whole auditing thing is ridiculous. Yeah, let's have people judge other people to determine their enlightenment...PLEASE..." That's not auditing. Wrong again. That doesn't even make sense. Let's see, that would mean you would sit down at a table, stare at eachother and then the other guy goes "Nope, still not enlightened! Try again next time." "Impure as in, if you're in a relationship and your significant other is not a Scientologist, they'll make you go through some classes for that." Can you say bs, as in bullshit? What would these classes consist of eh? If you think your so smart I'd like facts and details. "I'll save my 300,000 dollars, thanks." Again, you don't have to pay for it. I've explained that several times. But then again I think I'll leave you to your bashing. You obviously enjoy it more. "I said everything right" Hahahahahahahaha "Do you think I would really post about something that I read one article about? " You started this thread after only reading 1 article. Since then maybe you've read some more crap from the same anti cult wackos that fueled the Branch Davidian fiasco. "Also if you have "addictions", you are considered impure." Before you begin auditing, all drug residues and addictions are taken care of. Are you trying to say that addictions are ok? Like "those mean Scientologists, making me stop using Heroin!" "I can find enlightenment for free" Good, it needs work.
how ironic... Today as I was driving through town, I went by a vacant building that had the "the church of Scientology" emblem on it. I was shocked to find out that it's coming to my town. weird...
Watch out man. If your not careful they'll grab you and take you down to their secret torture basement. Then they'll rip out your toenails until you agree to give them your soul.
Scientology is not only a cult, it's the ultimate MLM, selling happiness of all things. Those at the top are getting rich, and those at the bottom are giving away all their money to the "church" You won't find much helpful info online, because they have enough money to buy out any website that speaks out against them. I find it really suprising to hear that Rolling Stone did an article about it, given their connections with the media and publishing people in high places. But I do love L Ron's sci-fi paperbacks!! The old ones, the ones that the scientologists (who now own all the copyrights) won't ever agree to have them republished, those are the ones you should read. Because those are the books where he talks about how if someone wants to get rich, they should start a religion. Where multi-level-marketing and evangelism is a running joke in many of his books (he wrote hundreds of them, try a used bookstore's 10cent pile for the good ones). In a few books, there was this main character who always lived by the theory that if you use big words that nobody understands, they won't argue with you because they don't want to look stupid. Thing is, that really big words used incorrectly, and even made up words are all in Dianetics. Yes, I have read that book, too, and I thought it was hilarious. I doubt L Ron himself ever expected it to be taken seriously.
Mmmhmmm. Did you also know L. Ron Hubbard would dress up like the cookie monster and eat baby hearts? Seriously this is such bull shit. I'd like book titles, publisher, character names, and above all pictures of these books so we know your not really making it up. But then again, everyone would just assume believe you than look for the truth. It's far more fun to have conflict than peace. Even for a supposed hippy site.
uh... fer cryin out loud! go to a used bookstore and look for them yerself. He wrote hundreds of those cheap scifi paperbacks in the 50's and 60's. literally hundreds of them. So many of them, I'm sure you could find one or two if you just looked through the old scifi books yourself, at used bookstores, flea markets, yard sales... My mom owned a used bookstore when I was growing up, and I read lots of old scifi books. The old ones are the best ones, really.... I might have one here somewhere... I'll look for it just for you. You want to send me some postage and your address, I'll mail it to you so you can read it for yourself. Believe me, anyone who is a fan of old scifi knows about Hubbard's books, he wrote so many of them, and most of them are just variations on the same theme. geesh, even the official scientology websites will tell you of "Hubbard's literary contribution to the world" but only mention four or five chosen books, and the Battlefield Earth series. I would have thought it was even more books than that, judging by the sheer numbers of them that went through mom's bookstore. He was the ultimate in pulp fiction authors.
Cults are fun, scientology gives cults are bad name Up with cults, down with money making schemes that pose as religions... I think there are sincere scientologists, but the ones at the top seems obviously to know it is a money making scheme... it is not inspired by a mystic's experience in higher consciousness, it is just the mad dream of a sci-fi writer that came true... all ya can say is wow, god sure does have a great sense of cosmic humor.
Yeah, L. Ron Hubbard = Science Fiction author. Apparently (according to Carl Sagan, to whom I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt), he started scientology on a bet that he could make start a religion and make a profit from it.
That might be the biggest rumor in the world. Can you rrally see, to guys casually making a bet, then him going and spending all his time, effort, and money into this. BTW, L. Ron Hubbard was born into a family of millionaires. He didn't need any money. And when he died, he donated all of his money to the Church of Scientology so that it could live on. Why would he do that? He made his money. Why should he give a rats ass any more? He made his $$$.
because to him, it was the ultimate joke. read some of his books for yourself. That's the sort of sense of humor the man had. Try reading Dianetics, but remember what I said earlier about people using big words that nobody understands, because that is key in reading that particular book and seeing it for what it really is, a big joke.
I havent read any posts or even what the thread is about, but Scientology is fucked. I went to a flea market, and this guy had a stand full of Ron Hubbard books. Well he sucked my bf into talking to him, and he had us there for a good 20 minutes, convincing us Scientology was the only true answer to life. We kept saying we really had to go and he physically grabbed my arm and got really in my face. I finally grabbed his book as if to read it and flung it at him and we ran. It was kinda really funny. Moral is: All Scientologists are fucked up. Anyone see that episode of South Park wjhere they go into details what Scientology is all about?? It's so funny. I love John Travolta. Why'd he have to go all weirdo on me.
Oh lighten up... Everything is a big joke It's called the cosmic joke Have you gotten it yet? It the laughter that pulsates through the cosmos... it is the divine leela, the play... the unbearably compassionate humor of the one consciousness beyond time/space, and in time/space. Scientology like any other phenomenon; WW2, billy madison, buddha's enlightenment, ducks, supernovas, murder, kissing, sex, meditation, mysticism, religion, houses, money, government, comedy central, TV, the daily show, death, reincarnation, the here now, gandhi, india, tibet, the dark ages, the black plauge, a loving relationship, martin luther king's I have a dream speech... Everything is funny in it's own way, because it is sooooo absurd, and the thing in my life I try to laught at the most is my own ego... cosmic laughter leads to the realization of oneness... Getting the cosmic joke is essential to seeing it like it is.
'Cause he's dead. He has nothing to lose by giving everything to his church. Scientology does have some admirable suggestions for a way of life, but that's as far as it goes. To take it as a religion is to take it too far. He knew he could take people for their money, so why not? According to his son, he was also fairly mentally unstable. Maybe just emotionally, but some of the stuff he talked about was waaaay messed up.
Au contraire.Despite spending millions every year on lawyers' fees,they haven't made a dent on critical info on the net.Go to www.xenu.net Among other things,you'll find four full-length books (webbed) on Scientology/Hubbard and dozens,if not hundreds,of accounts by former Scientologists.Including a former member of their secret police who posted last week for the first time. Rolling Stone soft-pedaled it somewhat,for whatever reasons. At the Xenu website,you can also find the Time magazine cover story that caused Scn to sue.(Scn lost.) And series of articles in The Boston Globe,LA Times,St Petersberg Times,etc,exposing the abusive behavior and endless lies of the "Church."
But you know one thing no one ever tries to "expose" is the fact that Scientology helps people to unimaginable degree. People that who suffer of epilepsy, migraines, heart attacks even are all cured. Even the former Scientologists who spend their time finding people willing to pay them for a good story, even they have nothing to say about the fact that Scientology has helped them physically, mentally, emotionally. People crippled by bad eyesight will walk out of auditing and take their glasses off, never having to put them on again. But no one, even those outrageous Xenu sites, they have nothing to say about the peoples whose lives have been saved by Scientology. Why? Because that's no good. No one wants to hear about that. They like to hear about Chaos and corruption. Their whole lives depend on it. They are religious bigots and to talk about the lives helped and saved is far too boring to hear about and far too dangerous for their future. The truth lies in the fact that Scientology has not stopped growing. 2 new missions have opened up so far 2006. 1 in Idaho, 1 in Kyrgzstan. Which means Scientology will help people in 2 brand new places which, until now have not had Scientology establishments!
Oh,I don't know,Tom Cruise and John Travolta seem to be able to disseminate how wonderful $cientology is without any problem. BWAHAHAHA.It will also cure cancer,bad breath,and give your kitchen floor a gleaming shine like you've only dreamed of. Bring your checkbook.