Has anyone read the article about Scientology in the new Rolling Stone? I didn't really know very much about it (other than the basics) before reading it. Personally I think it's a cult in disguise. What are your views and opinions?
Yes, the article was pretty good until the end, when it became total garbage. Scientology is not a cult in any way but if you wanted to start another thread to trash a religion that has helped people all over the world, there are already two threads in the "cult" section about Dianetics and Scientology.
LOL how is it not a cult? How is Christianity not a cult? LOL all religions are cults if you want to get technical about it.
I also looked in the "cult" section. And I think the Scientologists got to you, bro. Watch out, you'll be spending your life savings for shit I can tell you... By the way...how much do you love Xenu?
I believe its a blatant cult. When I lived in LA you would see the kids walking by in their uniforms staring at the sidewalk, the fresh in town movie extras attending "mmetngs" even converting to get certain jobs. My friend had a scientologist neighbor who moved. We snagged a catalogue that came for her which included 2 month long cruises for parents to send nonbelieving kids on, sets of 3 books for 11,000 dollars, and even more expensive getaways etc. Supposedly it costs 300,000 dollars to achieve the highest level of enlightenment. The first step, confessing to them every thing you've ever done and feel guilty about.
A) You can get auditing for free. You just get partnered up with another pre-clear and audit eachother. Because your basically doing work for the church you don't have to pay any $$$. B) There is no such thing as Xenu. Even if there was, is the story any weirder than the other religous ideas of creation? By the way, is it fun to descriminate against somebody for their beliefs?
Yeah auditing is free, but if they see you're "impure" they make put you through some stuff and make you pay for it...including those E-meters. Which, according to what I've read, were seized by the FBI because they weren't tested by the FDA and were being claimed to "cure" things. So yeah, why don't you work for a church and not get paid for it. I also seen in a previous post that you said they were super nice to you. Well, no duh! If they were jerks, they wouldn't get members, now would they? And how do you know there is no such thing as Xenu? Unless you were at OT III or whatever and read through that packet, you don't know! And if you really are into Scientology, you don't read those things on the internet. Good try. And I don't believe in Creationism...so...shrugs. I think it's all a scam. And I wasn't descriminating against you....I didn't call you names, did I? No. I just think it's a crock and it makes me laugh that you'd be so vulnerable to fall into something like that.
I think it is a cult...but I think cults are only perpetuated by a strict adherence to determinism/materialism in others. Just my opinion. I think it's misguided that anybody has to convince themselves that they used to be an alien in order to believe in themselves. All I really know about scientology I saw on an episode of South Park, though.
It's funny to me that people like you are supported when you obviously don't know what the hell your talking about. You read 1 article by Rolling Stone and you couldn't even get what they said right! What do you mean by "impure"? How do they deem you impure? I've heard the good, the bad, and the ugly, and there is nothing about being "impure". Also, you can't buy e-meters. The church uses them. Only approved field auditors can purchase them and take them home. So that doesn't make any sense, and I don't know where you got that from. Then you say that people claimed the e-meter could "cure" them. It can't and no one has ever said it could. They repeatedly say that the e-meter is a tool for the auditor, and in itself can do nothing. " So yeah, why don't you work for a church and not get paid for it." That's the point. If you don't want to pay money to the church, then in exchange for auditing you audit others. Now if you wanted to make it your career to audit people, then you get paid. "I also seen in a previous post that you said they were super nice to you. Well, no duh! If they were jerks, they wouldn't get members, now would they?" Well yeah, I was just saying that they were nice. I wasn't trying to use the fact that they are nice to make a point. They were just nice. Why'd you bring it up? "And I wasn't descriminating against you....I didn't call you names, did I? No. I just think it's a crock and it makes me laugh that you'd be so vulnerable to fall into something like that." Posting the question "How much do you love Xenu?" you were purposely doing something you know would aggravate a Scientologist. You did it to be funny, mocking someone for their religious beliefs. Therefor you were being descriminate. Look I don't care if you don't believe in organized religion. That is your perogative. But you don't have the right to go around and pass judgement on other religions just because you don't have one yourself. You don't have a right to go and degrade people for their deepest most sincere beliefs. That's being a bully.
what disguise? all beliefs are cults in some sense. or rather all organized and shaired beliefs. scientology pretends to be a merage of science and belief and in that it succeeds in deceiving even itself as it is not a very good example of either. like all religeos leaders, well most of the major ones anyway, hubbard may have and probably did, mean well. scientology is like trying to preform brain surgery on yourself with a freshman psych text book in one hand and an exacto knife in the other. and then they want money for it. you'd think the libertarians would love that. i think one CAN seriously injure their mental health with it and its pretentions, but as cults go, it doesn't really hold a candle to major religeons themselves. especialy the more chauvansitic ones like christianity and islam. =^^= .../\...
Scientology has always scared me. On this game I play called Fallout there is a cult on there JUST LIKE scientologists, even come plete with a Tom Cruise and shit.. except his name isnt tom cruise.
According to what I've read...and not just in the Rolling Stone article "2cool", it will cost 300,000 dollars. Shit, I can find enlightenment for free just by meditating
I said everything right...you've just already been brainwashed by Scientologists, so you refuse to accept anything I say. Do you think I would really post about something that I read one article about? Yeah right...I've researched it and I still think it's a crock. Impure as in, if you're in a relationship and your significant other is not a Scientologist, they'll make you go through some classes for that. If you've ever had negative thoughts about Scientology, they'll make you take some classes on that. Also if you have "addictions", you are considered impure. You obvoiusly didn't read my post correctly. E-meters require a PAYMENT in order to use it. And they did claim that The whole auditing thing is ridiculous. Yeah, let's have people judge other people to determine their enlightenment...PLEASE... Sure I was mocking you, but I wasn't discriminating against you. Being discriminatory does not result from mocking...It's not like I'm telling you that I don't like you because you're a wannabe Scientologist. To discriminate: to make a difference in treatment or favor on a basis other than individual merit. Sorry, I'm not. And I'm not passing judgement on the basis of it just doesn't "sound" right...I've looked into it...and they're just trying to make money off of you. Once they aren't making money off of you, they don't give a shit about you. It's kind of like, if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. I can find enlightenment for free...I'll save my 300,000 dollars, thanks.
I haven't finished the one in rolling stone, but I have read a couple articles on it in the past. Honestly I just don't understand how anyone can believe in the religion. It is more unbelievable than christianity, and that says a lot. The people in the scientology church are nuts too. p.s. tom cruise is a ****.