Mass Producing a New Hallucinogen

Out of all of the chemicals Shulgin synthesized. What do you think would be the one with the potential of LSD? I think that some skilled chemist should pick a chemical and mass produce it then sell it for very cheap.

 

not happening.

last chem that came close to that kind of status was 2-CB. Feds keyed onto it quick.
It's "a threat to national security".

sorry, the 60's came and went, like...40 years ago.

 

I read that you can get 2C-H and turn it into 2C-B supposedly its not that hard. But you would still have to be a skilled chemist

 

probably

but that's not the point. the point is human behavior, on a wide scale, that comes with the access to these substances. It only takes a few documented cases of accidents and deaths, for the DEA to propose an emergency scheduling hearing


look at what happened with 2CT7 and AMT.

 

psilocybin can be synthesized and im pretty sure its pretty hard to overdose on

 

it is; but you'll either be scared to death, or laugh yourself to death.

but it's very safe, as far as dosage is concerned.

 

Yeah, but a nation, or world of mush heads, running around like chickens with their heads cut off, or meditating in there rooms all day, wouldnt be very fun.

 

so a nation full of acid heads would be better?

 

YES!!!

 

i don't see how that would be any better; most of the notable psychedelic gurus would agree

psilocybin > lsd

it's both a good means of getting your feet wet, and diving as far into the psychedelic realm as possible. A lot of people mention that LSD is just a real mindfuck (not to say mushrooms can't be, but there's certainly something more earthbound and spiritual about them)

I was lucky enough to find some paneolus cyanescens growing in fields out here last year (but I fucked up and dried them wrong, in the oven), but I'll be on the lookout for them again this year; they're the 3rd most potent variety on the planet.

 

I love shrooms. Much more so than acid, I dont know I always have much more intense trips on them.

 

me too.

shrooms would actually overwhelm me more than acid; used to grow them, when JLF had kits (2000), 2 fresh ones kicked my ass, and anyone I gave them to, including a 350lb hardass.

 

mushrooms are def. earthbound, but acid is cosmic. they both have their place. I think LSD may be more of a mindfuck on its own, but it is much more clear. I find myself capable of moving around and talking(though very awkwardly)... basically able to put myself in situations with the potential for spiritual growth or appreciation. like i can go to a concert or an art gallery or do some yoga. With mushrooms i always feel so dazed and end up in some wierd situation or staying in the same house the whole time unable to make decisions or communicate in anyway. Although, the one time i took a bunch of mushrooms at a farm in an open field during a thunderstorm, it was the most spiritual trip i've had.

 

yeah, i definitely agree.

 

I was going to comment on how acid makes me feel, but I am at a loss here. Definitley not spiritual at all though. More like just completley insane, unless I only take 2 hits, then it's just a big laugh and lot's of music. But with mushrooms, while I wouldn't call what ever has happened to me on them spiritual, they just make me uncomfortable when i start to loose my mind, but I guess that's why I like them. Oh and becuase shit's so much funnier with them too.

 

Definitely!
But that was and still is the problem:
One of the main effects of the big popularity of LSD during the 60s was, that people suddenly started to think about a lot of things - and as a result of this, they stopped doing things only because the government told them to do so. This was the main reason why LSD was scheduled - the government was afraid that people wouldn´t believe their lies (especially about the Vietnam war) any more. And the scheduling of MDMA happened, because the US government feared another LSD generation.
But imho, a nation full of acid heads could solve the real important problems of our time much faster, than any government ever could. Some researchers already think, that most of the developments of mankind during the last 50,000 years have only been possible, because man used psychoactive substances.

 

maybe you cant, but you can for sure be nuts after if you took too much

my friend took once 8 grams of dried shrooms, after an hour or 2 he couldnt even answer when i talked to him, it was like i wasnt existing, at the end he ended up in a hospital

 

Many chems are relatively easy to synth. Including MDMA(XTC)...

 

what made him go to the hospital, what happened?