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Is Love a religious belief?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Lying in a field, Feb 18, 2006.

  1. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    I do know Jiddu Krishnamurti, but the main flow of Buddhist thought on the subject is that love is only one of many aspects of it and only certain types of love (and specifically not the ordinary types of love that people usually think of)


    About the original starting question of this thread. Usually artists, poets, lovers, etc are the ones who usually specialize in exploring the concept of love not religions.
     
  2. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Once every year occam watches a movie that has him crying like a baby.
    A love story of course.
    And a story that would sit well with the teachings of one we speak
    so often of. [not sophisticated, a comedy in some parts, that is the charm]
    Each of us with a heart has a story that can free our emotions.
    Occam will never tell any the name of the movie.

    It may not be 'truth'... but if it is not.. it should be..
    It casts aside all occams nitpicking doubt in it's naive power.
    The greatest performance by a certain male actor in his career.
    And great work from the female lead but for one other movie
    she was in. In Occams opinion the best 'will' movie ever filmed.
    that one is
    a clue and a riddle.
    'i have never seen a wild thing sorry for itself.'
    Remember?.. u girls should know this.. and if u dont.
    u are missing SO much u should see.

    Yah.. to those that figure it.. keep it to yourselves.
    occam is a silly old fool who thinks love more important
    than any earthly material power.
    Thats why he posts this on this thread.

    That is why, he posts anything, ever.

    Occam
     
  3. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i'm not sure there's any one movie i can even deal with watching every year, but there are a small number of movies and a much larger number of stories in print that elicit in me tears of joy.

    the phrase "all you need is love" certainly implies an absolute faith in something called love, often not too finely delineated and thus left up to the beholder to fill in the blank spots or simply accept their existence as the beholder sees fit.

    faith is often equated with belief and vicity versity, so in that sense, to the extent that the 'all you need is love" honestly and sincerely mean what they say, then yes, to and for them, love becomes indeed a belief.

    i've also heard the "god is love" bit from people i'm not to sure ever think very much about anything the say.

    as beliefs go, love has at least as much going for it as many, and a good bit more then quite a few.

    myself, i get real antsy if i'm too long away from creating or exploring, so i look upon "all you need is love", the "ALL you need" part anyway as being a modest exageration.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  4. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Themnax

    My friend .. thanks for actually commenting
    was a wee bit plastered last night so u can see where it all came from.

    Occam does not ONLY post cause love IS.
    He also posts cause reason IS.

    The 2 together 'emotion/reason' are what we are.

    Without reason we COULD do nothing.
    Without emotion we WOULD do nothing.

    Occam
     
  5. GanjaPrince

    GanjaPrince Banned

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    "love is all, and love is everyone" - The Beatles

    Love is consciousness as one... it is reality... it is a love beyond what we think as love...

    One love! One heart!

    My experience of love is described well by the beatles "Limitless undying love taht shines around me like a million suns"

    Man it is beautiful and bright out, everything loves me as lets my ego burn up in acceptance of that love, dissolving into the oneness.
     
  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    this is a good thing to do. i can also "immagine" and feel the spiritness "within you without you". the all inclusive 'you' that includes all sentient biengs also including you, occam, and myself.

    everything loving you won't stop the diversity of reality from occasionaly biting your finger or stubbing your toe. it won't prevent them from hurting like hell when it does.

    better perhapse to accept a less personal not intending toward you any particular harm, then to immagine that diversity to have turned against you when this happens.

    as it does "to the high and low alike", upon whome "the rain falls", both of tests, AND of blessings.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  7. Spiritforces

    Spiritforces Member

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    It is often when you lack something that you realized how important it is (was).
    I don't think love is a belief, because some people know, came to realize, that "all they need is love".
     
  8. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    not needing air, water, food, shelter or intillectual gratification would certainly be fortunate, were human society to destroy this worlds ability to continue to provide them (which it HAS the potential capability of doing, rather easily these days, even by accident, precisely as we appear to be in the proccess of). still, i for one, would prefer not to put this proposition to the test.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  9. Themnax, i just solved the riddle. You are yoda.
     
  10. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Hmmmm [ with atonal roll to the mm's]

    Young padewan. thinking occam is that u have resolved in error.
    Occam, yoda is.[​IMG]

    Occam
     
  11. Forgive me master yoda.

    Small green planet in a distant galixy, Dagobah is not.
     
  12. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Thinking occam is, that lightsabre needs cleaning

    Occam
     
  13. Foolish, you are being. Clean a laser beam you can not. Occam cannot fight without a hand.
     
  14. LIAF, yoda now is.

    Occam has shown unworthiness.
     
  15. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    LiaF

    Great wisdom LiaF Has..This unworthy onehanded
    one must now enter retreat for physically impaired.
    Will emerge as Luke SkyCrawler
    [some dude always takes the best names]

    Occam
     
  16. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    LiaF:

    That's a great movie, Princess Mononoke.

    Yakul's the best, right? :p
     
  17. Yep...hes so..impartial.

    To see with eyes unclouded by hate, what an incredible message.
     
  18. Luke Skywalker had the wisdom and strength to destroy an empire.

    The same strength and wisdom in Occam, I see.

    Just don't try and clean your light sabre!
     
  19. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    LiaF

    Your confidence is inspiring.
    And there are a few empires occam would like to destroy

    One is the tyrany of ignorance.
    Another the hegemony of hate.
    Though the second is but a facet of the first.

    Occam
     
  20. Lying in a field's confidence is lying weak and dishevelled in a hole.

    But people like Occam and Hikaru give me hope.

    Thankyou :)
     
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