I have a little question...

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by psychadelicbird, Feb 15, 2006.

  1. psychadelicbird

    psychadelicbird Member

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    First things first, please do not flame me for this.

    Ok, I was thinking today like I do every other day, and this question randomly popped into my head. You know how one of the things to salvation is to "repent" and do a 180 degree turn away from your sin, towards God? Well, if you take a 180 degree turn...you are just walking backwards towards where you came from. So wouldn't that be defeating the purpose of what you are seeking? I know most people wouldn't think of it like that...but then again, I have too much time to think.

    Wouldn't it be a better phrase to turn 45 degrees? Or 90 degrees would be optimum to completely leave the path that you were on. An, what if you keep walking straight...you would get somewhere else eventually...

    Random thoughts, don't you just love them?
     
  2. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    the phrase isnt implying a 180 on your "life path" but in your life style.

    before, according to Christian doctrine, you are sinning (well, even after you turn to God, you will still sin) but before i guess most would say you are "living in sin". a 180 turn from that would be no longer living in sin.
     
  3. psychadelicbird

    psychadelicbird Member

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    Okiday..thanks!

    I was just thinking about it and...I dunno. Random things that aren't very relavent.

    -Bird
     
  4. NaykidApe

    NaykidApe Bomb the Ban

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    Well, I don't believe in Jesus but I'm all for repenting.

    So, as far as the 180% turn thing goes;

    Suppose there was this light behind you and you were walking away from it.

    Everything in front of you would always be in shadow right?

    No matter how far you walked everything you see would always be dimmed by your own shadow.

    If you stop and turn around, now you're facing the light, your shadow's behind you.

    So even though you're looking back the way you just came you're seeing everything for the first time.
     
  5. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    If you walk straight, it may go somewhere. It may go off a cliff, or up against a wall. Perhaps it may lead to better places. But you have to look at your situation. Should a junkie keep heading down his path of addiction? You have to realize that you can't seperate the object from it's situation, it's context, its environment. They define each other and must be taken as a whole. So it's one thing to keep walking down your path if you're talking about a marriage that might be on the rocks. It'd be another thing entirely if the situation is that you're getting beaten by your spouse.


    NaykidApe, that's true if you keep walking away from the light, all is in shadow. But if you turn to the light, you'll be blinded by it. A 90 degree turn would offer you a lighted path where you can see the sights, hampered neither by shadows or blinding light.

    Just a thought. ;)
     
  6. FreakerSoup

    FreakerSoup Stranger

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    Why walk at all? Just sit! Enjoy the flowers!
     
  7. NaykidApe

    NaykidApe Bomb the Ban

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    that's why all real spiritual seekers wear these cool sun glasses [​IMG] .
    that's why their called wayfarers.
     
  8. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    haha, nice :D
     
  9. mrsmorrison27

    mrsmorrison27 yoda piss

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    ok..ive never heard of that, but, i dont dont beleive u can just say "the magic words" and boom ur saved from eternal damnation, i mean hello, i am carasmatic and we have very different veiws, plus i am a hippy, raised by hippy parents, so were a lil weird with our beleifs. but i beleive, that if u choose to follow wat is good according to God, than you are a christian, it has nothing to do with those "magic words" thats jsut stupid, Now, i made a promise to GOd that i would commit my life to him, and follow his teachings and be his child, but thats just me,,
     
  10. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    It's because they don't want you to see you looking at them. :p
     
  11. NaykidApe

    NaykidApe Bomb the Ban

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    HeeHee [​IMG].
     
  12. mahabala

    mahabala Member

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    Why are we here?
    First we need to know where here is. This is the material creation which is part of the total
    creation, material and spiritual. The spiritual is what we call the kingdom of god. The
    material is the place where an individual can go when he doesn’t want to be with god,
    where one can forget about god. We all came here out of our own free will because of
    envy. God is the center of attention and we are not. that rubs us the wrong way. So this is
    our place. Each little house is a little kingdom of god so that we can pretend. This is an
    illusion, we can’t be god, we are very small and have limited power.


    We will not be successful in stopping the violence until we understand the reason and
    cause.
    We are eternal spirit souls who have come to the material world to exploit the resources
    of the property of god. We were advised not to do this but chose to come here out of our
    free will. It was understood that there is going to be happiness and suffering when we
    came. All bodies are a machine for the soul and all living beings are eternal persons be they
    a human, animal, insect, bird or plant. The reason we are feeling compassion for animals is
    because of the presence of the spirit soul that is an eternal soul and an eternal person with
    in the material body. real compassion is to free the person from the cause of his suffering
    by releasing him from bondage of this existence eternally by going back to god in his
    abode. We all have a relationship with god. Every type of relationship that we see here is a
    perverted refection of what our relationship is with god. Jesus Christ is a good example
    because he had a relationship with god as the son. There are different names of god in
    different faiths and the name that I call god is Krishna. Krishna said The living entities in
    this conditioned world are My eternal fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are
    struggling very hard with the six senses, which include the mind.
    One should understand what the goal in life is first. To go back the kingdom of god by
    developing love for god is the supreme goal in life. The reason god allows suffering in this
    world is to frustrate the living entity so he will want to get free from this world which god
    doesn’t want us to be here.




    SB. 6.10.9
    If one is unhappy to see the distress of other living beings and happy to see their
    happiness, his religious principles are appreciated as imperishable by exalted persons who
    are considered pious and benevolent.


    One generally follows different types of religious principles or performs various
    occupational duties according to the body given to him by the modes of material nature. In
    this verse, however, real religious principles are explained. Everyone should be unhappy to
    see others in distress and happy to see others happy. Ätmavat sarva-bhütesu: one should
    feel the happiness and distress of others as his own. It is on this basis that the Buddhist
    religious principle of nonviolence—ahimsah parama-dharmah—is established. We feel pain
    when someone disturbs us, and therefore we should not inflict pain upon other living
    beings. Lord Buddha’s mission was to stop unnecessary animal killing, and therefore he
    preached that the greatest religious principle is nonviolence.
    One cannot continue killing animals and at the same time be a religious man. That is the
    greatest hypocrisy. Jesus Christ said, “Do not kill,” but hypocrites nevertheless maintain
    thousands of slaughterhouses while posing as Christians. Such hypocrisy is condemned in
    this verse. One should be happy to see others happy, and one should be unhappy to see
    others unhappy. This is the principle to be followed. Unfortunately, at the present moment
    so-called philanthropists and humanitarians advocate the happiness of humanity at the cost
    of the lives of poor animals. That is not recommended herein. This verse clearly says that
    one should be compassionate to all living entities. Regardless of whether human. animal,
    tree or plant, all living entities are sons of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

    Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad-gitä (14.4):

    “It should be understood that all species of life, O son of Kunté, are made possible by birth
    in this material nature, and that I am the seed-giving father.”

    The different forms of these living entities are only their external dresses. Every living
    being is actually a spirit soul, a part and parcel of God. Therefore one should not favor
    only one kind of living being.
     
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