Statistics prove prescription drugs are 16,400% more deadly than terrorists

Discussion in 'Consumer Advocacy' started by Angel_Headed_Hipster, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    "America was rudely awakened to a new kind of danger on September 11, 2001: Terrorism. The attacks that day left 2,996 people dead, including the passengers on the four commercial airliners that were used as weapons. Many feel it was the most tragic day in U.S. history.



    Four commercial jets crashed that day. But what if six jumbo jets crashed every day in the United States, claiming the lives of 783,936 people every year? That would certainly qualify as a massive tragedy, wouldn't it? Well, forget "what if." The tragedy is happening right now. Over 750,000 people actually do die in the United States every year, although not from plane crashes. They die from something far more common and rarely perceived by the public as dangerous: modern medicine."

    Read the rest here http://www.newstarget.com/009278.html
     
  2. AannaSolo

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    not to mention car crashes - how many dead and maimed everyday?
     
  3. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    pretty scary stuff.

    stop making me so paranoid.
     
  4. tye

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    There hasn't been any more Terrorisim, or at least anything major since 9/11.
     
  5. wart359

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    That's a stupid comparison, ok, so 800,000 people die in the US every year due to complications of medicine. That's probably a pretty good number considering they most likely have a debilitating illness. Its called side effects, you are warned of them. I'm sure that report was biased in some way. But hey, if you think perscriptions are bad, than so be it, when you have diabetes and you want insulin, sorry about your luck.
     
  6. peaceful

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    The guy who wrote this website is pretty extreme, tho in an impressive sort of way. I don't think i could ever be quite that disiplined. I've quoted a few of his impressive habits:


    "Mike Adams, the Health Ranger"


    "Health Ranger Habits"

    • "Absolutely no prescription drugs or pharmaceuticals whatsoever.
    • No visits to M.D.s or western medical doctors (visiting naturopathic physicians only)
    • No following the USDA's ridiculous Food Guide Pyramid
    • No steroids, andro supplements or other questionable bodybuilding supplements
    • No diet pills, stimulants or fat burning pills
    • No fad dieting "
    "The Health Ranger is:"

    • "100% television free
    • 100% alcohol free
    • 100% nicotine free
    • 100% drug free (recreational and pharmaceutical)
    • 100% red meat free
    • 100% fragrance free
    • 100% free! "
    One strange thing is that he takes a lot of vitamins and supplements, despite already having an excellent diet and exercise plan.
     
  7. hippypaul

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    It is had to get a real firm grasp on Rx drug related deaths. There are some drugs such as some of the chemo drugs that have so many side effects that you run a huge risk ever time you give them. However, they are the patient’s only option. And they have the risks vs. possible benefits explained to them.
    There are others such as aspirin that people take so much for granted that they manage to kill themselves with on a fairly regular basis.
    Then there are drugs like antibiotics that you may develop an allergy to at any point. It is a mild crapshoot ever time you take penicillin. Anaphylactic shock will kill you quick.
    Then there are the ones that the drug companies know damn well are dangerous and that they put on the market anyway. That’s were heads should roll. Both in the companies and in the FDA, which takes their word for the safety issues.
     
  8. rainbowedskylover

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    people seem to think that the whole medicine-production branch is there to help them, it´s not. it´s a part of the economy, which means these manufacturers try to get profit out of their productions. this has some major problems, for instance a few years a go there was a very cheap medecine discovered against malarai, but because of the lobby of the conventional medicine industry, the medicine was not taken in massive productions so the conventional medicin industry didn´t have to suffer losses due to a cheaper alternative.

    it´s sick
     
  9. streamlight

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    Actually, yes, the medicine production branch is out to help, if not, then they wouldn't make medicine, that malaria thing, I don't believe you, bring me a report on it and I'll look at it, but, if you'll understand something, capitalism is about getting your product bought and making money, say Merck and Phizer both make a drug that cures malaria, but one day, Merck makes a discovery of a drug that is cheaper to make then the original one, guess what, they will put that on the market, cheaper than Phizers, but they will still make money.
     
  10. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    the only concern of a company in a capitalistic society is shareholders, to make money for them, and there is a lot more money in a shitty treatment that ends up giving u another complication, which puts you on more of their medicine, than a complete cure.
     
  11. streamlight

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    But most treatments don't lead to complications.
     
  12. rainbowedskylover

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    read the book "what doctors don't tell you" I don't know if the story I told is in thei, because that story came from my memory. But ithis book contents a lot of facts and information that doctors prefer not to tell you for the wrong reasons.
     
  13. prismatism

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    my friend recently told me vitamin c was found to give you cancer, and i immediately called bullshit and looked it up. turns out, vitamin c and positive thinking are enough to cure some cancers, and the stories in national news papers were made up to keep us sick and paying until we die. how can you really think that ANYTHING the government does is for the good of the people? when we have wars, cars, prisons, television, "fashion trends" that keep us buying unneccessary clothes constantly, and required "education" to pump us full of false "information" and plug us into the grid, why should healthcare be what it appears? why should the saving of human lives be an exception in the illusion?

    but i'm getting off topic. prescription drugs are pretty ridiculous. for treating serious problems, it's bad enough. but what really works me up is how they try to convince us we have problems that aren't there. like "do you ever have problems falling asleep?" or "are you ever tired in the morning?" or "are you not horny enough?" or "are you 83 years old and sometimes can't have an erection?"... then at the end of the commercials quickly add, in a pleasant whisper "side affects may include dizzyness, sore throat, diarhhea, vomiting, and in some cases you may slip into a coma and die". they might as well say "are you still a normal human being? don't worry, we'll fix it."

    it's really hilarious and bizarre to watch sometimes.
     
  14. TheRealPamela

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    I do not believe all doctors are crooked, I believe most go into the practice to help people. However, pharm. companies are NOT in the business of curing anyone. They want life-long customers. It is all about money for them. They treat a symptom, not the cause of the disease, etc.
    Case in point- my father has high blood pressure and high cholesterol. he is on meds for both, but will not change his red-meat-heavy diet. Instead of even MENTIONING diet, his doctor upped his medication. I believe this is wrong, as many sicknesses are preventable.
     
  15. streamlight

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    I love you people who say the government is out to get you. Talk about stupid, if the government hated its people then what is the point, if the government kills its people, then the country will die, its ridiculous to think that the gov't is out to get you.
     
  16. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    i love you people who don't realize the government is about money, and they don't care about the people. it's not that they hate us, it's that they would rather use our trust for their benefit than spend all their time trying to help us. what's in it for them if they actually try to make everyone happy? then they couldn't take everything for themselves. there are plenty of people, more die every day and are replaced by unwanted babies of teenage mothers who will be in shelters until they're adults. the country won't "die" because so many people like you will trust it until you die. and i wouldn't be surprised if you were in a hospital when it happened.
     
  17. streamlight

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    You act like the government can make everyone happy, a government that governs 300,000,000 people can't possibly make everyone happy, sure, there are things the gov't does that I don't like, but I konw they do what they can. And if you'll notice, most politicians were rich before politics, they aren't in it for the money. And yes, I probably will trust the government until I die, its not because I'm an idiot, like you say I am, it's because I know the government cares about its people, because without them, there won't be any government.
     
  18. prismatism

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    please, i'm not that simplistic or idealistic. i never said the government could make everyone happy, but they could do a hell of a lot better job if they tried. and just because you are rich doesn't mean you don't care about money. that's like saying if you've already tried heroin, you have no desire for more. also, i never called you an idiot. i would never try to cut down a person's intelligence just because they think differently than me. i agree with you that if there were no people there would be no government, but people trust whatever the government does so they can really do whatever they want. they're not setting out to kill every american citizen, but they don't want to cure all the diseases because then we wouldn't buy medicine. they don't want to tell us to stop buying. it's just like the parent that beats their kid, and the kid still loves and trusts the parent because they're told they could have it much worse. just because it could be worse, doesn't mean it's good.
     
  19. TheRealPamela

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    haha don't bother explaining, prismatism. s/he is a republican.
     
  20. streamlight

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    Thats right I'm a republican, why does that matter, is it wrong for me to love my country, and my rights.
     
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