How does LSD change you?

How exactly does LSD alter your personality? I heard it gives you a 'new perception', but how different do you actually become?

And do you ever go back, even just a little bit?

"Timothy Leary's BREAD!"

 

That's a hard question to answer. Because it's different with different people. Your personality to begin with, the dose, your experiences during the trip, expectations, etc. all play a role. Sometimes there's little or no after effect. Sometimes it's short-term, sometimes long-term, it depends. I remember one trip years ago I was smoking and the smell and taste of tobacco grossed me out so much I quit smoking for 2 weeks afterwards. I wish it would have lasted for good. As far as personality, well, it had the effect of cementing friendships I had with people I tripped with. If it's a good trip it can open you up to other people, allowing a more honest communication with them, which can be good...or bad.

 

are you afraid of losing your personality to drugs, justwow?>

 

You change alot man. In every way...I dont really feel im the same Grapefruity, as before, he was kinda egocentric and didnt see his errors much...Im very happy and dont want to go back, even if lsd made come out a slight illness in me I think. I understand the positive potential of it to someone not at risk.

It does to alot of people what it did to people in the 60's, dropping out, but in that time, it was 'ok' to drop out. You are gonna lose a part of your personality to psychedelics drugs that fo sure...Not 1 time but if you keep tripping 1 or 2 times a month, youll change... Gettin better all the time???

And it kinda sux, cuz those who stay behind youll find maybe you are not in the same lifestyle at all anymore...That they think you are kinda weird, but you think they are kinda weird too. Parents, some friends, etc...

 

Well, first of all it would depend on your personality...some people, take L to get fucked up, and they don't get anything out of it or they aren't deeply effected by it. Me on the other hand, and more than one person i know, the first really intense acid trip i had make me anxious at first, I had fears of death and I began to see what was really really important to me, all people, not things, and I just wanted to be close to them ..but then the next time I triped I realized that the fear of death that I was feeling was actually the feeling of being able to feel the life inside me, to see the vibrations of other things, but to also feel your own body living...for me it showed me what was most important and it refocused me..I love acid..on top of showing you what is important, knowing yourself better, and feeling great the next day, it's tons of fun!

that was a bit long, but i love acid for the clearity of my mind and personality that it has shown me is possible.

 

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damn, that was beautiful; though a tad melloncollie

ps i just hooked up some cookies with 2 hits lsd in each cookie. tryin it for the first time; the psychedelic effects sound similar to shrooms, does it compare?

 

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Kblaze, it kinda compares to shrooms as it makes you trip and brings visuals, but lsd is different. There are much more visuals for the level of trip you are in it seems. And lasts longer. Just not quite the samething.

 

it really shouldn't change you at all (assuming you don't abuse the stuff) , but rather influence the way you see yourself, and the world around you. you make the decision whether or not you want to change yourself.

by the way...the visuals/auditory distortions are merely side effects of the psychedelic experience; the introspective/intuitive take on things is the main effect. Researchers and doctors sometimes take LSD, and other psychedelics, to help them tackle hard problems, not see pretty colors.

 

Well complete disintegration and reconstruction of the ego constitutes a change in self, IMHO. Isn't really a decision per se, the only decision is whether to take a ten strip vs. one tab (or any high dose vs. low dose, just using ten vs one as an example)... one's going to shatter everything you have ever known and show you the light, the other is going to make you have some weird thought patterns and see pretty colors. MmmmmMMMmMm colors taste so good.

 

well, I guess what I'm trying to say is, LSD won't really change who you are, but rather, how you view yourself, and others.

the decontstruction of the ego (obviously) happens while under the influence, not necessarily afterwards...you're back to yourself, once you come down...but presented with a whole new way of looking at things. yes, that deconstruction is involuntary; it's the first effect that comes with the trip (climbing...depersonalization)

I've had a 10-strip of white fluff before, but that didn't really shatter everything I've ever known, or showed me the light, per se....that's DMT.

 

10 strip didnt show you the light? Damn. It did it for me with 3 hits...It came as first as very clear fireflys really standing out in the open eyes visuals of a walk thorugh the camping... Then cream whip synesthesia of the sweet sound of a highway.

I don't know if it has something to do with it, but since my first ego death experience, ive never taken any other drug than pot, and lsd once a month or so...I use to be really abusive with lotsa stuff...It seems now my direction with lsd instead of being useless crazy therories and all , is more to understand important parts of reality, people and spirituality...

 

the thing with acid is, it's a good way to distort sensory perception, but rarely (if ever), does anyone have what McKenna referred to as a "true hallucination"

those come with high doses of psilocybin, and the daddy of all psychedelics, DMT.

it came to the point where 5 drops of liquid acid (good stuff too, from Austin, circa 1998) was just a walk in the park.. 7 purple geltabs, big deal...but the vapor of DMT, the flash, man...75 mg smoked (I have yet to have that much), that's seeing the light. crazier than even salvia. it's not just ego death, it's perceived "near death".

plus, there's something more intriguing, IMO, with psilocybin: the more you take, the further down the rabbit hole you go; not the case with LSD...the effects plateau at a certain dose, around 600 mics.

but for all practical purposes, LSD suits most just fine; it's a good tool for introspect. I guess I could say it "taught" me a lot (particularly about zen), it's the psychedelic I've used the most.

 

With dmt can you become like so selfless , that you can become like...just a consciousness knowing absolutely nothing but what is happening .Just, consciousness experiencing everyhting, but having absolutely no judgement of it, not even a sense that you were, once. With my experience of ego death by lsd, there is still awareness of who I was, and that its way better up there...

Cuz if you say it makes you go that far, I cant really imagine...

LSD suits me well. I dont think I could survive the intensity of a 300ug lsd trip, that came up in a few seconds...And that must be what 25mg dmt.

 

i withstood the intensity of a 500ug trip, but even a trip that strong comes gradually.

nothing can prepare you for a flash (DMT), which hits within the first minute; and what seems like an eternity, is only about 5 to 8 minutes. you don't even have time to lament the death of your ego. everything you thought you knew gets tossed like last week's newspaper, and don't even try to look at the clock...it's no longer a clock, it's a fractal iguana.

and yeah, you can only take so much acid, because of the tolerance that builds, and rapid metabolism.... assuming consistent dosages, taking half a sheet is not different than taking 15 hits; it's just a waste of acid.

 

Oh now I get it

I'm never trying this. Too fast for me. Maybe in a dose like 20 mg or so i guess.

 

it's heavy.

William Burroughs even sent a telegram to Tim Leary and Allen Ginsburg, urging them to explore with extreme caution (and Burroughs was thought of as a drug guru, the man was all about excess, made Dr. Gonzo and Raoul Duke look like rookies casually smoking pot); Leary proposed constructing a device which would allow himself to communicate while under the influence, because trying to talk while in hyperspace is an act of futility.

it's quite an experience; if you ever decide to try it, have someone close by, to make sure you don't try to walk around....the room will not look the same to you. you'll literally see things that are not there, and won't be aware of what really is there.

Iggy Pop once smoked DMT...he saw "a perfect Buddha" appear right in front of him (!)

 

here's a good read on chemical hyperspace : http://deoxy.org/hs_cehn.htm

deoxy also has a lot of stuff that parallels this site

my other fav is Dave Pearce's site http://hedweb.org

 

I read the different stages of the dmt trip...

Those flashes. Ive had em the first time I did lsd. It's arrival made me fall on the ground. I saw billions of small ghost like entities at first, then it did swooosh and everything multiplied endless times, making my body a waste on corner of my vision, so much fractals theres no place anymore so theres fractal tentacles slashing, and its like a giant oven of light...I came back....then it starts doing it again, a bit less intense everytime, at intervals of 20 seconds for like 30 minutes. Problem is that I was tryin to get home...Until i was back to a comfortable level. Now the world looked pretty cool. My ass got kicked that one time.