Depression

Does anyone know a natural remedy to help with depression?

thanks, peace

 

st johns wort ( plant ) "nature " spiritualism"let the sun shine ...........good luck man.

 

last year i amit i was deperessed and hated life but i had help by my freinds and family and that helped me alot.
So the coura for deperssion is LOVE!

Peace and live long and healthy CHRIS

 

there are many herbs that can help a bit, but if you're really depressed, they're not gonna, ya know, solve the problem.. they didn't really work for me cause things are just wrong in my head...

 

First, get some antidepressants. They may not be herbal or organic, but they work. They helped me a lot.
Try keeping yourself off of anything psychoactive, even pot. It'll leave you emotionally unstable, and my doctor told me that pot specifically causes and triggers depression.
Good luck and I hope you feel better soon...

 

Raccoon,

So does antidepressants. They cause depression in people who have bipolar disorder. I can testify to that. My advice is to see a doctor and hear what s/he has to say. Listen, do some research, then act. Maybe see a couple doctors. I was misdiagnosised a couple times. It does happen, so be careful...

Hope things get better, field run. Drugs, even herbal ones, don't solve all the problems, they are just aides to find the solution...

Peace & Love

 

quit using any recreational drugs...


start exercising, eat healthy, pick up a new hobby such as painting, or hiking. Exercise usually makes one feel better.. but everyone is different.

As mentioned above go see a doctor if you believe it is serious.

 

yeah first see your doctor, try therapy and if nothing works then MAYBE consider anti-depressents.. the stuff scares me.

 

Yeah, try St John's Wort. It works for some people, and clinical trials have shown it can be as effective as anti-depressants. Anti-depressants also work for some people; but if you want "natural" try that first.

 

yes, and other things I took: gingko biloba, ginseng, vit.B6, magnesium, and damn what's it called in english, yes oil of the early primrose I believe (capsules). try it out and see how it works for you! but still I strongly recommend seeing your doctor and getting professionel help. it helps me a lot

 

I conquered my depression with some love and will power. Go see someone about it, because like Bono says: "Sometimes you cant make it on your own"

 

On the flip side, "natural" medicines aren't regulated, meaning, who knows what you're taking, or how much of it. So if anyone's going to take it, do your research on the company producing the drug first, and thoroughly. The clinical trials that showed it may be effective are relatively dated, and also, they said that it might be effective only for minor depression, not major depression. Further, newer studies performed have shown that you're just as well off taking a sugar pill (placebo) as taking St. John's Wort. From the NIMH:

Several components of the National Institutes of Health (NIH)--NCCAM, the Office of Dietary Supplements (ODS), and the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH)--funded a large, carefully designed research study to find out whether St. John's wort extract benefits people with major depression of moderate severity. This clinical trial (a research study in people) found that St. John's wort was no more effective for treating major depression of moderate severity than placebo (Hypericum Depression Trial Study Group. JAMA, 2002; for further information, view the press release online at nccam.nih.gov/news/2002 or contact the NCCAM Clearinghouse).

 

also, you can try aromatherapy. I didn't research this very thorough but rose or lavender oil (in a burner thingy) are good for depression, other ones too I'm sure, do some research

 

If you or anyone you care about is tormented by clinical depression and none of the medications seem to help, you need to read this.


http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149621

 

Treating depression with buprenorphine, subutex, or suboxone is just about as effective as treating heroine addiction with methadone (which also works amazingly well against depression, but with the same obvious drawbacks). Sure, it's relatively effective, but you're trading depression for an opiate addiction. Google "buprenorphine addiction" and see what pops up. Might as well take the king of all antidepressants, mdma... I guarantee you'll feel great... until you come down. Same thing with buprenorphine... when you stop taking the pills, you're still going to be depressed but you'll have an opiate addiction to top things off.

 

I didn't read through the rest of the posts, carefully....but I think the biggest, most important key to naturally relieving depression is exercise and meditation.

Exercise is KEY to lifting spirits, during depressive states... I rely on it, almost fully when I feel blue. It helps balance the seretonin [sp?] in your brain, and leaves you in a happier, calmer state afterwards. Anything will do really...walking, jogging, yoga...etc.

Meditation is good as well, for calming any anxiety/running thoughts, confusion, etc. If you're new to meditation [like, I am] try to focus more on your breathing over anything else. Try to breathe in through your nose, using your diaphragm for like, 8 counts..... hold it for a few seconds... and slowly let it out for about another 8 counts. It's the same idea, as a singing exercise...if you've ever done any kind of choir, or voice lessons.

If you find yourself getting anxious, or crying uncontrollably, the breathing technique is a useful tool.

Do not let your body OVER or UNDER sleep under any circumstances. If you find yourself a bit of an insomniac because of your depression, try relaxation teas [ www.traditionalmedicinals.com ] and/or meditation before rest...invest in softer pillows/sheets/etc. ..that helps a ton. If you find yourself sleeping A LOT... force yourself to go to sleep at a certain time, and wake up at a certain time [possibly with the help of an alarm]....the more you let yourself oversleep, or undersleep, the worse you're going to feel. It's a vicious cycle. But, the more you control, and regulate your sleep, it will get better, or at least save you from feeling any WORSE.

Aroma therapy has always been helpful for me as well. Lavander scent is the best thing for this.... candles, insense... anything. Try it out.

If you're willing to try... art is a good therapy for depression as well. When you're feeling down paint something, or draw something.... anything to outlet how you feel. Writing helps a lot too.

It's not just herbs and medications that help depression...the most NATURAL ways of aleviating depression are actually far simpler, and more effective. All you have to do is want to feel better, and be willing to give yourself a kick in the ass, to carry out with those tools

I hope that helps

 

hey that was a nice post, thanks! very useful as well

 

Thanks

I just really feel for anyone who has to go through depression, but feels the way I do...and doesn't want to rely on medications such as Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac...etc.

Taking a pill everyday, which changes the chemistry in your brain...is a big, and risky decision. And, sometimes, it feels like there's no other way when depression, and other mental disorders begin to really start interfering with your quality of living.

And, sometimes, in the world we live in, doctors...and the media...and even our elders, make it feel as if...medication is the only way to go.

But, I have found this to be so untrue.

The trickiest part is just motivating yourself enough to get up,and get out and do some of these other, natural ways.... I know that when I get depressed, it really takes a kick in my ass to make myself get out of bed, and go for a walk. But it's important to do so. It's important to keep MIND over MATTER...and never let the depression get the best of you.

Depression is a real, and dangerous thing to deal with... but very few people want to admit and realize, that it doesn't become dangerous, until they let it consume their lives.

I've always struggled with depression, amongst other disorders.... [clearly, I'm much better now]... and I was always at my lowest, when I would let myself wallow in my self pity. It took a lot of strength to stop myself from doing that, and just get off my rear, and take control.

ANY mental disorder, addiction, etc... can be easily dealt with, once YOU gain control of it.

 

Thanks for all your help peeps! I'm trying a lot of different things to feel better. I have talked to a doctor also, and right now I'm taking Celexa. Its just been a week, so I'm not sure if it will work. I'm willing to try anything to feel better right now.

 

Before I begin, I need to point out that even most physicians are ignorant regarding the vital role of the endogenous opioids, and how they relate to depression. Therefore, nobody should feel ashamed in the slightest, when I point out any inaccuracies in your medical knowledge. I teach doctors about opioids & depression- not the other way around.

Treating depression with buprenorphine, subutex, or suboxone is just about as effective as treating heroine addiction with methadone (which also works amazingly well against depression, but with the same obvious drawbacks). Sure, it's relatively effective, but you're trading depression for an opiate addiction. Google "buprenorphine addiction" and see what pops up. Might as well take the king of all antidepressants, mdma... I guarantee you'll feel great... until you come down. Same thing with buprenorphine... when you stop taking the pills, you're still going to be depressed but you'll have an opiate addiction to top things off.

-------> Regular buprenorphine users never get high from it. That's the only reason the government is far less restrictive regarding this particular opioid in the first place.

Personal stories or hard scientific data- I'm not sure which would be more effective in altering your thinking for the better...so I'll provide both:


http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard...0&Number=196682

http://opioids.com/cogmood/antidepressant.html

http://opioids.com/enkephalinase/lhelplessness.html

http://opioids.com/naloxone/depcrf.html

http://opioids.com/enkephalinase/index.html

http://opioids.com/cogmood/index.html

http://opioids.com/codeine/index.html

http://opioids.com/codeine/index.html

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http://www.naabt.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114

Note: Suboxone & Subutex, aka 'sub', is the U.S. brand name for buprenorphine.

Posted by leeglegle: Finally, I found a Sub doc and my addiction instantly disappeared AS DID MY DEPRESSION! I still take 10 mgs/day of Suboxone and will for the rest of my life. It is my "insulin". The disappearance of depression was even more significant for me than was the relief from addiction. I had been an addict for 7-8 yrs., but a depressive for thirty or more years.


Posted by Jake:

I had depression for years. I could quit drugs and go through the withdrawal, but it was the depression that would eventually get the best of me and draw me back into addiction. I was self medicating with opiates to fight my depression. Once I began Buprenorphine my depression vanished. I was down to 2mg for a while with still no depression and its been a couple months since I stopped Suboxone and still no depression. Its almost like whatever wasn’t working before was fixed by the Suboxone.​

Posted by gwen : i started bupe in june and have noticed that it is also helping my depression (connected to my addiction to Oxys). i had been prescribed different anti-depressants off and on over the years, but nothing worked as well as the bupe is working.


Posted by spanky: I was on prozac for about 4 years prior to starting on Bupe for anixity and mild depression.Since I started on Bupe however I have been able to discontinue the prozac without any troubles.I feel wonderful and like you will most likely be on it for awhile if not forever.The book you're writting is a wonderful thing ,maybe it will open the eyes of those in power to make this drug more available for the many who still suffer.I can honestly say that if not for the Bupe I'd be either using again or dead by my own hand cause I honestly couldn't stand the misery I was dealing with.By the grace of God I found this forum and this drug and I and my life are so much better for it.

Posted by natasha: Anyway, my reason for posting is to let you know that I, too, had major depression and that I was self-medicating for years with hydrocodone. That is until I finally got on suboxone. That was in March of 2004. I am still taking 8 mgs. every morning. I also take Effexor 150 mg. This seems to be the magic combo for me. I am happy and enjoying life. Can't begin to describe the "before" for you, but I'm sure you can imagine. Every time I tried to get off the opiates, I just got soooo depressed, didn't want to live, and just didn't know why. I had been on antidepressants before, but nothing worked as well as the two meds together.


Posted by connieZ: This past September I went to rehab for my third time they gave me suboxen. Within minutes I felt normal I could'nt believe it no more depression what a miracle. I left detox and immediately felt like s***. A friend of mine told about a doc who prescribed suboxen I got an appointment immediately. I started taking the suboxen and again felt normal it's been two months now and have never felt better.


Posted by SomeDayBFree: My first experience with Suboxone began in May 2004 and the relief I received from nearly life long resistant depression was simply miraculous. I was at my best taking 4mg per day. That was better than at 6mg and better than at 2mg. Unfortunately, due to my own internally placed pressures, I opted to stop taking it and began a slow wean and finally ceased in March 2005. The depression returned fairly quickly(no surprise...) and I relapsed a few weeks later. This relapse was relatively short, but "hard and heavy." Much more so (nearly 3 times more) than my previous 3 or so years of abuse. When I returned to Sub in early November, my intent was to do a short detox only - then I found this site along with significantly more data on the drug than I had been able to find previously. I also learned that a significant number of other people as well, were finding relief from serious depression by using Suboxone.



Posted by rac1210:
I am amazed the level of intelligence at this forum. I read the post by others at these sites and realize how many people have suffered due to the ignorance and arrogance of the medical community. I read years ago a study done in England that showed Buprenorphine to be effective in treating depression and now I am convinced that there is clearly a place for this drug in not only dealing with opioid dependency but also refractory depression. The proof is in the pudding...look at the folks on this site who have suffered for years with depression ultimately leading ot opioid addiction and all its negative consequences and then suddenly started Sub and now are functioning, happy, productive individuals who have regained the joy of living.





Posted by dan sewell : Twenty plus rehabs and institutionalizations....All in the name of addiction. Extended "vacations" at the Gray Bar Inn as a result of "criminal" activity ( I'm a good person, my crimes all drug related, not stealing or violent).Scores of Psychiatrists and counselors. Years in and out of the smoke filled rooms of AA/NA. Attempts to find religion, self help books, new age/ old age philosophies. Every known combination of psychotropic drug known to man.So many failed attempts, when I've had the best intentions of remaining clean. Any of this sound familiar???
What I've finally come to realize is that my depression drives my addiction, a fact that I have had to force down the throats of those who supposedly know about addiction. Every damn one of them has worked on the premise that everything would be dandy when I stopped using, and then some counseling and a dash of antidepressants to fix me. It just hasn't worked, depression leads me right back to the strong stuff.
The closest non-addictive drug that has worked is Wellbutrin, but has still paled in comparison to Suboxone.I am only taking 1-2 mg(I say 1-2 because I have to divide an 8mg pill in order to stretch out my limited supply) of Suboxone daily, and even skip days because of it's long lasting effect.Technically I'm (my doc knows Im taking less than prescribed) "detoxing" but figure I'll be coming off the stuff for as long as I can figure out a way to keep a supply.Is this abusing a medication? Am I a criminal? I don't even feel the Sub as much as 90% of the antidepressants I've used in the past. I feel like I can actually function and be a productive member of society--something that has not even been an option for soooo long.
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I could show another hundred of these. Would you care to try explaining to all of these people why they're wrong and you know better?