I began to doubt

I on 100 % am assured that our ancestors is monkeys. I also trusted in the God. But now I doubt of his existence. I cannot believe that we have occured from Adam and Eve. But unless it is impossible to trust in existence of the god and to trust in evolution simultaneously? I cannot understand this. Whether it is compatible together?

Or so it is impossible? Can you to me prompt???

If such theme already is at this forum I ask to excuse me

 

What makes you 100% sure that our ancestor were monkeys while their are no transitnal forms showing this, nor any explanation on how life could reproduce without a replicating system`(also called, the "Oparin dilemma") and how all this would be controlled by a blind system. Look at the words you posted, do you know how many million biochemical reaction that took place simultaneously for you to write just one of those words? Respected Ostard, dont accept everything you hear, there is no reason to doubt.

 

Many people believe that god guided evolution. Evolution may not be compatible with the account in genesis, with adam and eve and seven days, but it is certainly compatible with god. While evolution may be supported scientifically, there is no scientific evidence of god. Therefore, if god does indeed exist, your guess is as good as mine as to the nature of god. The bible is one theory, the koran is one theory, hinduism (is there a hinduism book?) is a theory, but anyone who tells you they know the nature of god is misleading you.

 

Adam and Eve are just fancy nicknames for Oog and Ugg, the first of the homo sapiens.

 

Acctaully, the theory is that humans and primates share a relatively common ancestor---it is a little different in the way you say it, but very different ideas

 

God uses similar geneforms for different species. Why completely redesign the template for every species? Some geneforms are useful for more than one structure- in some species (without teeth), the geneforms for teeth are used for other structures.

 

Yeah we didnt come from monkeys...

There was a common primate ancestor that evolved. The climate of africa began to shift from lots of thick jungle to savannah, so fewer trees. The primates had to come down out of the trees because they were starving and the grass was very tall. This is what triggered them to start standing up, thus evolving into Homo Erectus.

And there is no missing link between the ape like primates but there are skeletons and skulls of homo erectus, neaderthal, and other early members of the homo genus. But I am not an expert on this is just what I have learned over the years.

We share 98% of our genetic make up with Chimpanzees who are under the genus pan, which make some come to think we shouldnt be classified as homo sapien, but pan sapien.

 

Nope, the first skeletons found with locking knees and the proper pelvis to walk upright were found in formerly forested environments, not savaanah type environments.

 

Yeah, don't accept everything you hear, except of course what you hear from the religious believers.

And Burbot is right (if I remember right), bipedalism developed in the forests. At the very least it probably didn't have to do with seeing over the grass. More likely it had to do with tool use (free hands), or for walking between the distant groves of trees (thanks to the shriveling forests you mentioned, Natura). Really though, they're not really sure why bipedalism evolved.

 

The best thing to do, Ostard, is to continue on this path you are going. Sooner or later you'll find no need for superstitious fantasies of "gods" and such. You'll probably go through a minor depression, existential anxiety, confusion and finally laugh at it all. And realize, that the only god that exists is the one you create. You're own personal god and not some spooky ooga-booga ancient Judeo-Islamo-Christo-fascist god.

 

I saw a thing on The Science channel called "walking with prehistoric man" or something like that... and it showed very primitive ape like creatures not even close to resembling man yet other than being a primate, in a savannah type environment, and it was talking about how because of plate shifts the jungles of north africa was turning to grasslands and desert(or dessert i always get those words confused in spelling lol). And the early ancestor of man that had just broken apart from the ancestor of todays other primates was still living in the trees in the savannah, which still had a few growths of large trees but was mainly grass lands. He had to come down or he would starve, and there was great fear because of the predators that lurked in the grasses, which was over the primate's head when he walked on all fours. It slowly started to stand up and look around and then go back down to all fours then voer time it could stay on its 2 feet longer(I dont think they had the locking knees yet so it was wobbly). But that was just one theory I guess, since he started standing up like that to get a better view it freed his hands and then the evolution sped up from there.

 

EDIT: nevermind, I am not going to bother

 

Thank you very much. I often doubt of existence of the god, not only from for that that I trust in evolution. But is more often I doubt not of the god, and in that that is written to bibles. But to bibles it is really written a lot of good. I think if to do all as is written to bibles to live begins easier

 

I think that's wise my freind, embrace the message and don't worry so much about the mythology.

Alot of people become so hung up on the myth they never get the message.
I think that's like someone who's so impressed by the wrapping paper that they never open the present.

 

I am not trying to argue or anything with you brother, I am just going by what I saw on the Science channel, lol.

 

Yeah, I was going write a little rant, but it wasn't really worth it for internet arguments

My point was that my anthro proff had told us that this was *new* evidence, as in the past couple years...but again, it isn't worth stupid arguments

 

Yeah, they will probably never know 100% why we started walking up right.

Just curious... but do you hold evolution as valid? I noticed your profile says Christian.

 

Yes I do (at the present moment in time)

 

Good words of wisdom.

 

The film "The Real Eve" from the Discovery Chanel tells a fascinating, and true, story about how all people can be traced by their mitochondrial DNA back to one woman in Africa.
It's not about the part of evolution that you all are talking about, but it's wonderful, nonetheless.