Praying question?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by dd3stp233, Feb 17, 2006.

  1. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    I have a question, that maybe some christians out there may know the answer to. In many christian/catholic prayers, they end with "Amen". Having studied some Egyptian history/religion/mythology, Amen is one of main gods in their ancient myths/religion, in the times of the pyramids. I am curious to know why christians use the this old Egyptian god's name in the closing of their prayers.
     
  2. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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  3. dd3stp233

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    The Egyptian hieroglyphs are older then the use of the hebrew language. I think it is strange that they would spell it different then the hebrew, when they spell it the same as the Egyptian trans. Considering the history of the biblical people many had been to and/or lived in Egypt and would have been aware of the Egyptian god. I don't think they have confused the two.
     
  4. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Well, maybe, I don't really know where the Hebrews got the word; I don't know the etymology back that far, maybe someone else does. But it's clear that for a very long time, the word has had nothing to do with any Egyptian god, but has meant, as I said, "truth" or "absolutely."

    It's just basically a big "hell yes!" at the end of your prayer.
     
  5. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Amun- Name for the creator of all things. "The Hidden One"

    There is obviously a correlation for God gave this word/name to both cultures.
     
  6. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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  7. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Interesting. So was this little bit:

    Not that I really get excited about such things (who knows how many were gained or lost in the numerous edits?), but it's kinda neat.
     
  8. Daniel Herring

    Daniel Herring Member

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    Correlating words with words is an interesting game. Some play it well; others don't even know the rules. I had heard that the Mormon church, for example, tried to send missionaries to China but were refused out of hand. The reason: Chinese, supposedly, has a word that sounds similar, but means 'death'. An interesting coincidence; or is it? Some obscure book I've never seen is reported to contain a list of demonic names. One of those names is 'Mormo'. As to the Mormons - are they in league with the devil; a death cult; or just an inbred bunch with an overbite?
     
  9. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    ^way to be a bigot, Daniel. That's our options? They're with the devil, a death cult, or inbred people?
     
  10. Daniel Herring

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    An air of righteous superiority is wasted on a person like yourself, TBTM. If you can not understand simple humor, or accept it from others on a free speech forum - well, you just need to hang it up and move to Utah.
     
  11. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Your post had no hint of humor to it, you were talking seriously the whole time about word correlations and then said Mormons were inbred. What do you want out of me?
     
  12. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Apparently he wants people to accept his bigotry as a humorous (what a good example of christian love - because I'm SURE Jesus would have acted like suck a dick).
     
  13. Daniel Herring

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    While it is true that I am not well known for preamble; a bit more flexability on your part would really shine.

    And, Sera, "apparently" a brain cell or two from you would improve our overall estimation of your value to a conversation.

    God bless you.
     
  14. heron

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    Amen does come from the Egyptian influence, and so does Satan (Set-an).

    you have to consider with Amen that it is incorrectly pronounced Amen with an "A" sound, when it is really Amen with an "Ah" sound.

    Just like Amen-Ra.

    And with words like this "Ex. 23:13:"...and make no mention of the names of other gods, neither let it be heard out of your mouth." I would suggest saying "I'm done"
    at the end of your prayers.
     
  15. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

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    heron man wtf are you on " how do you pronounce "does it relly matter if you pronounce it A or AH . I"m done ( does"NT do it for me la . its like happy xmas ........where the fuck doe"S the x come from ...............amen
     
  16. heron

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    The X comes from the Greek symbol for Christ or Christians.

    Wow, i know more than you, surprise!

    In etymology, the way you pronounce it is quite important.

    the "A" part is newer than the "Ah" part, therefore showing
    the original pronunciation and where it came from.

    And the "I'm done" comment was a joke, even though
    the passage was serious. If my god forbade me from
    saying another gods name, i wouldnt do it. So the
    suggestion of finding an alternative was sincere, while
    the alternative i suggested was the joke.

    Happy now?
    and when making contractions (such as don't and isn't), the
    punctuation does matter. The quote is an incorrect alternative
    to the apostrophe. And for the record, "does" requires neither a
    quote nor an apostrophe.

    I'm done.
     
  17. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

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    i"M always a happy chappy man .........no worries......amen
     
  18. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Greek influence, not Egyptian influence.

    Acronym, not Greek influence, in Judiasm.

    From Latin, from Greek, from Hebrew.

    Many different traces, so it's obvious that the etymology is lost to time, but in all cases, there is no mention of any tie to Egyptian ... which is interesting.
     
  19. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    It's the name of the same God.
     
  20. heron

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    So the Jewish god Yahweh is actually Amen-Ra?

    wow that could piss a few baptists off.
     
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