Pro-LSD use

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by yahthatsme, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. yahthatsme

    yahthatsme Member

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    OK, Im 17, and have not yet tryed lsd, but i suppor the use of it. I have researched it through and through, i have interviewed first time users, long time users, and anti-users. The reason i am posting is that hopefully my words will be used in the prostest of the use of Lsd.
    i have found that the people who have used acid for exploration are the best examples of a proactive acid users. They give the drug a good name. They make it a tool not a toy. These are the people that i respect.
    to the demise of my generation, we are contolled by the media. the "good" kids watch the shows were drugs are bad, and the "bad" kids watch the shows were they are good. but saddly lsd to both of these worlds is bad, due to the horror stories that have been told for years. All they hear is that one can have a bad trip, and kill them selves. but they have no idea what causes a bad trip, and that a bad trip can become a good one or even show them a bit of insite about them selves.
    Now theres the govornments side to it. Telling only the bad, and not the fact that they used it for the good of our nation (ex. in experimantation in psychosis and in military intairigation). Theres plenty of anti-acid info out there but not any pro-acid info out there at all, and again that is why i am writing.
    Heres my point of view on the whole thing; acid like anything isnt for everybody. For some it can only make things worse, and vis-versa for others. It should not be used by any one who has ANY instibilitys that can be reconnized by them selves or others. If theres any dowt if one should try LSD then that dowt is enough. the drug is harmless if, like anything, it is treated with respect and used reponsibly. Taking in the set ( mental state of the person ) and setting ( that persons surounding ) as the most important thing is being responsible. With these in mind the drug is in most peoples case harmless and proactive, but like in all of life shit happens. Thing can go bad even if everything is done right, but a person can be the best and safest driver ever and still die in a car acsident.
    i think its time people see acid as it really is, a tool, like any tool some poeple can handle it some people cant. Shit happens and life goes on. But we can controlle what stories are told. and i think its time people saw the beauty if an acid trip.
    if there are any questions, comments, or additons i would really appristiate it thank you for your time.

    -A fellow future psychonaut-
     
  2. Grapefruity

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    I am pro-lsd, but used responsibly. once a month or less . LSD is not good for you.

    I believe in lsd, cuz it is a very easy way, and relatively not dangerous, to see a light that will keep on shining wherever you are. This light had made me change alot. For some , this light is religion. I observe much more what is wrong with my person, with this me, and try to work on myself. I know that if you tuned more people to the light so they understand we are all egos coming from the same source and need to take care of each other and work on every bit of light left in someone...No one chooses who he is...

    It permits you to see that you are a pretty imperfect machine, and accept our weaknesses , not ignore them.

    Taking lsd often fucks this up though. In my world, all those drugs brink 'bad karma' . But the thing with lsd, is that it permits you to find a light, even from 1 use. Even if you are in a violent ghetto, the message can come to you.

    I provide a few people with lsd...and in my head its like...take it, i hope you can get the desire to change for the best and change the world as a team, like im tryin to do...

    Though its not for everybody. LSD has me developing a mental illness...But i understand what it can make to the right people...

    With great powers come great responsability.
     
  3. Pablo_Escobar

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    Lucy is incredible.
     
  4. SunshineChild

    SunshineChild Mad Scientist

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    You believe this yet you haven't even tried it.

    I am pro-LSD by the way. I've done a fair share of it in the past year.
     
  5. Grapefruity

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    We are incredible :)
     
  6. yahthatsme

    yahthatsme Member

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    in responce to SunshineChild, the reason i havent tryed it is because i cant find it. LSD isnt very popular with people my age. lots of loose ends everyone who says they can get me some never comes though
     
  7. GTA83

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    I will say this, enjoy it's cosmic complexities while on it, realize that these insights, visions, and bodily enhancments are all within you and not in the drug, the drug merely opens them to you. Exercise, reading, meditation all promote the same intelectual greatness. Once the trip is over do not repeat because you think you have lost it, this will lead to a warped view on reality. For me i have found a extreme apprehnsion for learning, life, music, exercise, the outdoors, spirituality, family, friends, unconditional love and acceptance, and always yearning to be the better person. I also know it may be impossible for my character to always have these ideal qualities, but that is ok, this life is too important to take seriously.
     
  8. Grapefruity

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    Yahthat's me...I would tell you to be careful with lsd...I have this feeling...That 'understanding' all this before even having tried psychedelics...I don't know, Im reffering to people I have seen, but anyways everyones different :p

    You might be ready to dive head first too.
     
  9. yahthatsme

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    yah i think your right, i have no idea what it will do till i try it, and thats why im starting with a half dose, in a safe setting, after an hour or so of meditation, with a co-pilot. I think thats all i can do to lower my chances of complications. All i know is that i feel called to at least try. Heck i was conseived by my parents on an acid trip, who knows :-}
     
  10. Viruk

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    Take 1 hit people, this isn't 65 where you get amazing hits, this is 2006 where good hits are few and far between.
    On the note of responsibility im going to go take 5 hits and go boating... just kidding that would be stupid.
    If I use your words for pro LSD usage do you mind if I correct the spelling errors?
    Thanks for sharing your opinion, but we basically all have our own reasons for using LSD, me I just want to see what it does and I enjoy hallucinating.
    Now if you'll exscuse me I'm going to go buy 12 hits and start my journey through life as an acid head.
     
  11. DancerAnnie

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    It's too bad you have to find enlightenment through drugs :rolleyes:

    Just remember...the government used to use this stuff to control people's minds.
     
  12. the anarchist

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    If I am not mistaking, government efforts to use LSD for mind-control purposes failed.
     
  13. Grapefruity

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    Well when you are lost in a sea of drugs, enlightment is hard to reach, its good to have one drug who has the power to get you out of your hellhole, through its enlightment. I mean, you are not there meditating 3 hours a day or being born again with human told spirituality. The drug doesnt tell you what to do ,its all in your own mind. If you can witness your own death, you can see the life you live might be a hell hole. Then you might want it to get better.

    I wouldnty see monks doing lsd, cuz they dont need it. They have the power to reach such kind of states by themselves. They dont need training wheels.

    And about the government thing... They can control the already naive and manipulatable people very easily but sometimes when the subject is a manipulator too, its impossible to get something out of him. You are not in the state to play interpersonal games anyways. Why should we remember it we dont deal with the FBI or soemtn.
     
  14. tumbledownDNA

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    i think once you've tried it, you realize its potential and the question isn't wether its good or bad, but how its used - you might realize this about a lot of things. so, since its illegal, its up to the user to use it as responsible as possible - but, after taking a good amount i do realize taht certain people aren't ready for it, probably even myself when i started trippin. i learned a lot of hard lessons iguess.
    but one things for sure it needs to be decriminalized and researched because it has SOO much potential, and the fact that it is so stigmatized as a hard drug is what continues the irresponsible use of such an incredible chemical.

    i'm pro human, and pro freedom. LSD is one of the many things we deserve the right to use.
     
  15. Neuronaut7

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    I was doing research for a paper I'm writing on psychedelics, and in one of the articles I found that the percentage of Buddhist monks who have used some form of psychedelic is higher than the percentage of the general population. So don't look at a drug like LSD as "training wheels."

    Saying that it's in you and therefore sad that one must use drugs to find that inner enlightenment is like saying we could all be professional athletes because we "have it in us," meaning, we all have the same muscles and all that, so we just have to do it.

    No, some people can't meditate because the way their brain functions won't let them. I have to work extremely hard to get to a point where I'm not really thinking about anything, yet when I smoke pot or drop LSD, I find it much easier to disengage my brain from the usual thought loop and go off on (rather interesting) tangents.

    From what I understand through reading, those who use drugs like LSD merely for the hallucinations are the ones who are "misusing" the drug and the ones who I consider to be playing with fire. Those who takes drugs and *merely* watch might accidentally stumble across some revelations, but you have to have the right mindset to begin with.

    I agree that only certain people should use psychedelics, just as only certain people should drink. It's all about balance and responsibility. The hard part about responsibility when using psychedelics is that you can't always control your actions because you might be cut off from reality. A sitter is a good idea, but like everything, not always practical. Balance is key, as it is what life is all about. I noticed the great balance before I used any drug, which leads me to my thought and question for all of you...

    Certain people are naturally "trippy" people. I consider myself one of those kinds of people. A lot of what my friend told me about his trips, I had experienced before or thought about before. I had arrived at those kinds of conclusions just because I think that way. My question is, why do you think this is? No right answer of course, just want people's thoughts on the subject. My crazy idea - if you've ever used psychedelics before, it will somehow, in some manner, be passed on to your offspring. In my case, I believe that my father has tripped before, and that that led to my thinking a certain way. Say what you will, it's just an idea I had one day when I was high.

    Your thoughts?
     
  16. Grapefruity

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    Hmm about the lsd seen as training wheels...ill explain more...If you seek enlightment with psychedelicsm lsd is the first to use. Its like the easy one, where everything is easy to figure out and its precise. It just pulls you into ego death like it had done it millions of times before. Then id say you go with mushies. Then if you can reach the same state of enlightment, well you are on the next step. At the end, id say, if you can reach the state with a quid of salvia, your near not needing any chemical help :p

    and it seems enlightnment comes from the state of, not looking at the visuals. I think that the visuals are distracting from whats really there. When i think and look at the visuals , I call it playing a game. Its fun, but it has no sense really :p
    When I take it...theres is sometn by the end when the visuals are weaker...I call it when the eyes cross ...You think you think, lyin in bed...then when ou are like on the peak of your thought, the eyes cross...Oh i like it when the eyes cross...But its just my conception of it without seeing it :p Anyone relatin? lol

    you guys make me fuckin crazy man, you make my thoughts go wild! Ill go smke a cig and continue this post in my head.

    Hmm and lsd can create enlightnment as well as psychosis. ...and they are opposites , really...and when you are in psychosis you think you are ine enlightment and all...Damn , in a psychotic break, I was certain the visuals were showing me metaphorically the history of lsd since its discovery and all...now that was crazy shit :p
     
  17. GTA83

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    Based on what i know of how psychedelichs work, i think visuals are actually there, or rather the possability of how things could be. I also think (especially on mushrooms) that visuals allow one to see the energy flowing within yourself and everythgin around you. Look into quantum physics, there are many things actually existing in the world that our senses to not show us for survivalbility, just because dogs can hear sounds in higher frequencies, does that mean those sounds don't exist? Visuals to me serve a purpose by showing me the complex beauty of actual uninhibited reality... at least to me they do.
     
  18. yahthatsme

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    my spelling is really bad i know, its just that being that the age that i grew through child hood in had spell check, and with out i am...well screwed. Theres allso the fact that i just type away and jope things go right... well yah sorry if my spelling made thing hard

    Peace

    P.s. and to the one hit thing i think for me that might be a good idea, my soon to be supplier isnt much into acid, infact im his only customer with the stuff...lol
     
  19. Grapefruity

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    For me this kind of stuff is what I dont want to lean to. I try to keep away for any like...like if psychedelics had metaphysical meanings..
     
  20. GTA83

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    Just interested why you don't want to learn these things? I still tight my trips very lightly and never get caught up in a certain spect of it... I still enjoy it as a euphoric substance... just curious.
     
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