YOU STILL DON'T BELIEVE THIS CLICK RIGHT HERE DUDESDEAR THE TRUTH IS SO CLEAR JUST BE TRUE TO YOURSELFAnd read post No. 26In Iraq...Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Irrelevant , silly responses, posts, comments will be ignored There is an addittion in post 26Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
Cat raises a valid point, here. Shrub isn't asking people to kill for oil. There's a "principle" involved. I thought him wrapping himself up in a kipa and praying at the wailing wall was a bit much.
I'm confused. You show us that the president is Christian and some soldiers are as well. Somehow you think that's enough evidence to say this is a holy war? Now, I'm against this war, but this is just idiotic. Just as well, I could show you the following picture: And say that the Arabs are fighting for their right to kiss children.
And before you get too high and mighty, the Crusades were about spice trade routes and money, but the Church sent knights against the Saracens in the name of religion. We unfortunately need oil from the Gulf, so when we need to prop up the KSA or what have you, it's about "democracy" and "freedom" and what have you. And yet, none of you realise that the other side might be doing the same thing? We don't have a monopoly on perverting religion to secular aims, you know.
i think this is bordering on spam but whatever my response I just did a search for what bush has said about islam ISLAM IS PEACE “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.” - President Bush, September 17, 2001 WAR ON TERROR, NOT MUSLIMS “I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people.” - President Bush, September 19, 2001 TERRORISTS HIJACKING ISLAM “The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends.” - President Bush, September 20, 2001 AMERICA DOES NOT FIGHT RELIGIONS “Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil.” - President Bush, September 27, 2001 AMERICA’S MUSLIMS “There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion.” - President Bush, September 28, 2001 ISLAM BENEFITS THE WORLD “That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements.” - President Bush, November 19, 2001 ISLAM IS LOVE “Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate.” - President Bush, September 10, 2002 Turkey Belongs In The European Union America believes that as a European power, Turkey belongs in the European Union. Your membership would also be a crucial advance in relations between the Muslim world and the West, because you are part of both. Including Turkey in the EU would prove that Europe is not the exclusive club of a single religion, and it would expose the "clash of civilizations" as a passing myth of history. - President Bush, June 29th, 2004 http://www.muslimsforbush.com/muslims/ if its a holy war you would have mosques being banned in the west, instead of that you have persecution in the islamic world of minoritys and no one in the west takes notice . you have a pro islamic bias in all western media , you have writers film makers and now cartoonists being killed or in hiding .
Well, sadly, the voice of the nuts will hurt the rest... Cultures collide: Muslim immigrants will be expelled from Europe unless they reverse the growing perception of them as a social threat Lawrence Solomon Financial Post Friday, February 17, 2006 The Muslims refused to assimilate. They were expelled. This was the story in Europe 400 years ago. We are watching the sequel today. Europeans are rarely welcoming to outsiders, even when the outsiders are blond and blue-eyed and come from the country next door. When the outsiders are un-European, swarthy and Muslim, they are tolerated at best. When some Muslims also insist that Europeans stop acting like Europeans, on pain of death, European tolerance comes to an end. In the clash of cultures between secular Europeans and extremist Muslims, there can ultimately be no compatibility or compromise, only loss by one side or the other of the absolute values it holds dear. European capitulation on European soil, where they remain the dominant majority, is unlikely: Europeans revel in their liberty to mock religion, to poke fun at sacred cows, to be outrageous, even to offend. European leaders have reacted to the Muslim upset over the cartoons two ways. Publically and to buy time, they seek to calm the protesters by deploring the abuse of freedom of speech. More significantly, they seek to preserve their societies by legislating Western norms, by tightening or ending immigration from Muslim countries, by enabling the expulsion of radical imans and other Muslim activists, and by raising the spectre of mass deportations. In France, hard-line Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who in October characterized France's urban rioters as "rabble," will require non-European immigrants to sign a new "Contract of Welcome and Integration" that spells out their obligations. Among other reforms, the French government will be free to expel immigrants after 10 years. Insular Muslim communities -- commonplace today -- are outlawed. For immigrants to stay, they will have to demonstrate respect for French norms, such as equality between men and women. "If a wife is kept hostage at home without learning French, the whole family will be asked to leave [the country]," said Mr. Sarkozy, who proposes to rank countries to determine the desirability of their immigrants. The Danes have brought in immigration laws that are stricter still, all but ending their liberal refugee program and discouraging even temporary workers. In the wake of the cartoon riots, many in Denmark, including those in government, want to see an outright ban on Muslim immigration and to have radical leaders stripped of citizenship and deported. To preserve home-grown values, Danish Minister for Cultural Affairs Brian Mikkelsen recently called for the creation of a "canon of Danish art, music, literature and film." Last summer, he stated that, "In Denmark we have seen the appearance of a parallel society in which minorities practice their own medieval values and undemocratic views," adding that, "This is the new front in our cultural war." In Germany, which pioneered the guest-worker program in Europe, a sea change has occurred. "Multicultural societies have only ... functioned peacefully in authoritarian states. To that extent it was a mistake for us to bring guest workers from foreign cultures into the country at the beginning of the 1960s," said former German chancellor Helmut Schmidt. Germany's new Chancellor, Angela Merkel, shares his view: "The notion of multiculturalism has fallen apart," she said prior to her election. "Anyone coming here must respect our constitution and tolerate our Western and Christian roots." The Netherlands, which has cut immigration in half since 2001, is deporting 26,000 rejected asylum seekers and keeping new arrivals in detention camps. Under proposed legislation, women will be banned from wearing the burka anywhere in public, not just in schools and public buildings as French legislation has it. "I believe we have been far too tolerant for too long, especially being too tolerant of intolerance, and we only got intolerance back," said Member of Dutch Parliament Geert Wilders, who has been forced to live in safe houses because of Islamist death threats. According to a recent Pew Global Attitudes poll, 51% of the Dutch view Muslims unfavourably. Belgium may be less tolerant still. "Islam is now the number one enemy not only of Europe, but of the entire free world," states Filip Dewinter, leader of Vlaams Belang (The Flemish Interest), now Belgium's most popular political party. Mr. Dewinter has gained popularity by arguing that, "it is an illusion to think that a moderate Islam exists in Europe." He states: "There are already 25 million to 30 million Muslims on Europe's soil, and this becomes a threat. It's a real Trojan horse." Many Europeans fear their Muslim populations. In Switzerland, 25% consider Muslims a threat to their country. In Italy, half the population believes a "clash of civilizations" between Islam and the West is underway and that Islam is "a religion more fanatical than any other." The fear debilitates but it also stiffens resolve. The President of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, backs the Danish government's refusal to apologize for the cartoons, saying, "It's better to publish too much than not to have freedom." France's Sarkozy prefers "an excess of cartooning to an excess of censorship." Italy's Northern League Party, a member of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's coalition government, printed T-shirts sporting the cartoons in advance of elections in April. The U.K. this week passed legislation broadening the right of free speech, no matter how offensive, barring a specific intent to provoke hatred. Europe's Muslims now know that they are expected to integrate or to depart. Four centuries ago, after decades of threats of expulsion, forced conversions and other failed attempts to assimilate Muslims, complaints about them -- their use of Arabic, their clothes, their rejection of Western culture -- were similar. "They marry among themselves and do not mix with Old Christians," complained one report of Spain's Moriscos (Muslims who had undergone forced conversions to Christianity). Riots by Muslims at offences perpetrated upon them added to tensions. In the end, still not assimilated, most were expelled.
Yeah, you missed my point, The stupid people who accused Isalm of terrorism because of [Muslim] terrorists' acts and deeds is the utter stupidity, I did that to show them how are they looking stupid, judgeing islam according to Muslims' deeds is stupid, because not every Muslim is practicing Islam correctly. if some people are accusing Islam of terrorism because some stupid Muslims are doing that, are terrorizing the innocents, then they should do the same with christianity, Bush is a Christian!CLICK RIGHT HERE DUDE Thanks =), I am trying to show the others that if the Muslim terrorists are killing people in rooms where its walls full of Quraanic verses (posters) , it doesn't mean that this is Islam. if they think that this emphasizes that this is Islam then they should see the US in the same way. the images show soldiers with crosses?!! is this aproof, this is nonsens And Bush receives instructions from His Lord as he said regarding Iraq? image: missionaries distribute Gospels to Iraqi Muslims according to a website.Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Osama and Mulsim terrorists are doing this in the name of religion, with no proofs, what is thier war about, about spice trade routes or money, ask them. Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
jonny2mad Truth is bitter. CLICK RIGHT HERE DUDE Now this is funny, Whether Bush stated it or whosoever, this is the clear truth, the truth of truths, we (rational people) don't need Bush to know that. Matthew 7.15-20: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 12.33-37: Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Quraan: And of mankind there is he whose speech may please you, in this worldly life, and he calls Allâh to witness as to that which is in his heart, yet he is the most quarrelsome of the opponents. And when he turns away (from you), his effort in the land is to make mischief therein and to destroy the crops and the cattle, and Allâh likes not mischief. And when it is said to him, "Fear Allâh", he is led by arrogance to (more) crime. So enough for him is Hell, and worst indeed is that place to rest! Quraan: O you who believe! Be afraid of Allâh, and be with those who are true (in words and deeds). Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
jonny2mad Holy war War on innocent children and people as well The war on babies, environment, humanity and planet earth è Don't miss this Dear they aren't stupid that much. hehehe Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
You just wanna think Bush is stupid to think thet OBL is doing this under the guise muslim beliefs .. NOT some ever changing self interpreted slant he has taken from the Koran.. It's not even a holy war for pitys sake.. OBL is a Zealot who gets off on [and whould wholly agree] all the Bullshit you perpetuate near enough everytime you post.. who is the stupid one again ???? Are you in the ''I'm not listening mode'' or ''I'm not listening to anything that does perpetuate what i think mode'' .. anyhoo please do a bit of listening..or it is not worth you comeing back..[to this thread ].
O Muslims, focus on this, you must grasp it. Dear Muslims keep reading Quraan you will find everything there. Do you think that they are making these laws of freedom because of freedom? Huh! Or because they know that you hate such thing, and that they want to get rid of you!! Quraan: O you who believe! .. they have.. driven out .. yourselves because you believe in Allâh your Lord! ..Should they gain the upper hand over you, they would behave to you as enemies, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil, and they desire that you should disbelieve. Quraan: O you who believe! .. they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand. Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e. you believe in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), while they disbelieve in your Book, the Qur'ân]. And when they meet you, they say, "We believe". But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: "Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allâh knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets)." Dear if Allah in these verses are talking about the former people who happened to be with Muhammad (pbuh) (at the time) it doesn't mean that they don't exist today, be clever my dear. I continue in another post Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens