Why insulting prophet Muhammad?!

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Patience, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    "There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease"

    is allah talking about mohammed in this sura
     
  2. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Here's what I'll say.

    What dishonors or desecrates Islam more: a cartoon of your Prophet Muhammad with a bomb on his head, or actual Muslims detonating actual bombs in crowds of actual people. Where's the outrage over that? Where are the angry protests?
     
  3. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    There are none, cause it was the will of the Prophet that Muslims murder in the name of Allah.
     
  4. Ford7692

    Ford7692 Banned

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    RELIGION only causes controversy. Just live life and be a decent person and you'll be fine. Seriously, this is rediculous. A cartoon? Who gives a damn?! If there was NO religion in the world, there WOULD be world peace.
     
  5. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    Easily the most ignorant comment I have seen posted in this thread.
    Easily.
     
  6. shaman sun

    shaman sun Member

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    It is not the religion, but the people. The extremists.
     
  7. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    True, religion is not the cause of turmoil. If there were no religion, we'd just find other things to argue about. We do that anyways. The problem is not in any outward issue like religion, wealth, or politics. It's "the darkness within," so to speak. Ego, as I usually call it, or the ego-hallucination.
     
  8. mati

    mati Member

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    maybe it was the will of allah that the cartoon was created so that muslims could murder in the name of the prophet
     
  9. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    It may upset or annoy us but we aren't going to burn buildings because someone made fun of our mom or dad, or religious leader for that matter. We do want you to be able to have and express any opinion you want about my mom or dad or religious hero. Here we value everyone's right to free speach and expression very much.

    Every person is an individual with their own thoughts, feelings, and opinions. And everyone has a right to their own opinion. We don't force people to have reverence for beings just because they are religious or political figures. In a free country we feel every human deserves the right to think for themselves and express their opinions and feelings about any subject matter freely.

    If we took away every freedom that annoyed, bothered, or offended other's we'd be left with nothing. I don't like lettuce, should I take away everyone's freedom to eat it? I think jehova's whitnesses are annoying and I feel offended when they tell me I am going to hell, so should we take away their freedom to witness??
     
  10. kat_bb3

    kat_bb3 Member

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    Sera is right, we need freedom of speech...freedom does not mean the right not to be offended. If any thing offends you you have the right not to look, leave, or just ignore it.
     
  11. cabdirazzaq

    cabdirazzaq Member

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    As kofi annan says, one cannot insult and degrade in the name of freedom, thats foolishness to say the least.

    If the pictures would of resembled a jewish rabbi with a bomb on his head, the newpaper could face charges for anti semitism. But with muslims, in the words of Robert Frisk, "aim as you wish". People do not want their families degraded, nor do we want the dearest to us to be slighted. Dont you people say; do to others as you want them to do to you?

    Pastor Green here in sweden got charged for insulting homosexuals by calling them "a cancer diseas towards the society", he got jailed for that! Weres freedom of speech???
     
  12. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Well you also happen to be talking to American's here who are notorious for being loud-mouthed and obnoxious. And not so sensitive apparently....a rabbi with a bomb on his head wouldnt even get noticed here.

    There's a difference between verbal harrassment to the point of harming another and someone and drawing a cartoon. We can end freedom of speech at when someone is using their words to terrify another...say, maybe, threatening their death, terrifying them psycologically...but a few cartoons hurt no one - just simply caused offense. And if we start legislating who can and can't offend who, and criminalizing the act of causing offense to another, we are going to start creating very oppressive situations.

    I agree it may be foolishness to insult and degrade in the name of freedom, but foolishness is no crime.

    I don't want the world community to be a place where we have to worry about what we say, think, or draw. We should expect that people not be perfect, and that some people be downright assholes, and not go into a rage when someone steps on our toes. We should nurture a community that is more tolerant of others, and if they don't like them they can at least value their lives and their right to be their own person. We all can't have the world be exactly as we want. There's only one of it to live in.
     
  13. mati

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    maybe the cartoons outrage muslims because it touches a sensitive issue. if I were a muslim, I would be outraged also. Outraged, but maybe not so much at the cartoonist, or the newspaper, even less at Denmark... but at the extremists who are acting in the name of Islam to bomb people. The cartoon is only a reflection of something happening in the world, the fact that it is creating so much controversy is probably an indication that it has something to say that is relevant. Where are the protests from the Islamic world concerning the extremists? I think it exists but I don't hear much of it because I don't follow the Islamic press. Saying all this makes me think that the cartoon was seen by different people as meaning different things and if this had been understood by all those involved, it might have made a difference. It is a sensitive issue and people have short fuses.
     
  14. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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  15. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    thats pretty fucked up. one million dollars for insulting a prophet guy, man, if i killed every person who said, drew, or made fun of jesus i would be the richest person alive.
     

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