Well, it is good to read such a rational, balanced, objective, modest post. I know what you mean about those self professed experts. Some people, huh. It is amazing how they can spew such base vitriole and purport to convey the message that they 'know' the truth. If the 'invisible sky-daddy', as you so respectfully call him, by some miracle, does exist, then I expect all of these 'ego-maniacs' to be with me in hell. Thank goodness, someone has a calm, cool, intelligent perspective.
Where is the logic? its just more evidence to say that a god could be out there, or that some other sort of creator could be out there, but it doesnt prove that there is something.
Stoner Where is the logic?...what part of the logic dont u understand? Not ..'just more evidence' But irrefutable reason/logic. It especially shows that NO HUMAN can say there is NOTHING 'out here' As that is what athiests are saying. "there is no god" Then logically they cannot support their proposition No? How can one say there is nothing out there if ONE HAS NOT BEEN OUT THERE How many cows are there in kansas Stoner? None?..cause u cant see them from sydney..[ or occam from just up the coast from u, maclean, ex of randwick] What athiests are saying is " i dont see it..so it doesnt exist..." The ultimate in self centered absolutism.. nearly solipsism. Is that logical to U? Occam
I don't know if you're realising what you're saying... But read that bit there again, and then tell me that you're argueing for the existance of god, not of aliens... Cause that sure as shit sounds like you're trying to say "we're not alone"... But if I was to take your post seriously like you intended it you're saying: 1. God is laying on some rock out there 2. Your logic is based on, well he could be there, ergo he must! (which is really smart, congrats) About the #16 one, so you can't say there is no god without being misserable!? about #15, that is based on the idea that we think americans are reasonable and logic people #20, blind faith you say? I disagree... A person who believes in no god, lives his life to the full, not believing he'll be saved afterwards like those who lake a leap of faith... I have a hard enough time trusting people I can see, why would I trust god? Before you say anything, I'm just saying this cause I think you're being stupid... I have nothing against christians (the real kind, not the ones that try to control everyone and everything), as I see it, they're fooling themselves not me...
The old saying goes "seeing is believing", without seeing there can be no believing. Then there are those that "believe" without seeing but can that really be called belief? A vivid imagination can sometimes approach the feeling of belief, in the insane for example. "Belief" in "god" is an example of mixed metaphors. Notice the italics, the old bait and switch routine. You believe in love? God is love, they say. Who knows how the world was created? God created it, they say. God is the answer, they say. Around and around in the circle game. People don't believe in god, they believe in love. People don't believe that God created the world, they believe what they see.
common sense is not yet an applicable term to describe anything, but it sure is a fun turn of phrase, and i must plead guilty to using it all too freequintly, and with a certain amount of hopeful optomism. diversity being (as i percieve it) the nature of existence, nature, and reality, nothing, and certainly not a powerful nontangable being, is by any means precluded from possible existence. it is only the length of the odds against such a being beginning and ending with what anyone thinks they know about it, that i find, while by no means infallable, highly, let us say, persuasive. there's certainly no reason there couldn't be a god UNlike the jadochristoislamic perception. whether as one among many or even as a one and only, or a grand daddy of the others, or whatever the unknowable case might ever actualy be. i do think people spend far too much time worrying about whether or not there's a god and what 'he's' like, and far too little choosing priorites who'se colectively generated motivations reduce rather then contribute to, ambient levels of suffering and harm. and obviously i can't speak for whatever god does exist on this, but suspect, just suspect, such a being, one at the very least wishing us no harm, just might share a rather similar perspective. =^^= .../\...