I believe that there are no paradoxes in the physical world, and all paradoxes are descovered through human thought. paradoxes are derived from what their descovereres considered true concepts. concluding from a much more elabourate exploration of the concept which would not be needed post, i believe that if there is paradox anywhere, then the condition whereby the paradox exists is not able to exist in reality, and thus whichever method used to hypothesise sucess of the condition observed is flawed. get what im sayin, yo?
yup. I think the whole idea of paradox is the result of our limited ability to perceive any concept in it's entirety. Everything in the physical Universe is a sphere or comprised of spheres, everything orbiting everything else in a spherical pattern. The seasons operate in a cycle as does life itself. If, as quantum physics suggests, concepts (time, space) operate under a set of laws that corespond to the physical laws that govern the physical universe, then concepts themselves are "spherical". If we look at any concept as a big sphere, and we, due to our limited abilty to climb very far up either side of the sphere, can only perceive small portions of either side of that sphere, the individual sections we can percieve of might seem unrelated or to contradict each other, whereas if we could see the sphere in it's entirity, we'd be able to see how these seemingly contradictory aspects actually compliment each other.
I agree; paradoxes occur because our mental constructs, while working very well most of the time, are not perfect. They do not completely match up to reality/nature. I figure this is just a natural result of how our brains work, with our limited perspective. Every time a paradox becomes apparent, it should be taken as a reminder that concepts are symbols, and symbols are only approximate, and that we are focusing/living in the artificial world of ideas. Better to forget the now obviously flawed reasoning and just try to experience the world as-is.
I think that sums it up nicely. Life is like a river and if we're standing back looking at it all we'll see is alot of distorted reflections (including our own). If we dive into it we can experience it and we wont have to figure it out. Someone who's stuck one toe in the water knows things about the river he couldn't have learned from a life time of reflection.
Well, I guess another way to look at it would be to say that everything in the universe is related to everything else in the universe. Each aspect of reality is just one variable in an equation that we can't begin to comprehend rationaly. all we see are seperate, seemingly random variables that seem unrelated to each other. even if we were to somehow stumble upon the answer to what it all adds up to, it wouldn't make any sense to us based on the variables we have.
but im saying that paradox can then be seen as the one thing we have in determining teh truth of the universe. if in your belief can be found a paradox, then your belief is: incomplete, incorrect, or is not actually understood (by the one who has found the paradox) beyond the words used to communicate it.
What conclusion are you coming to in your paradoxical quest, that paradox's are inevitable, speaking in terms of human perception?
no, simply that it is the only measure of objectivity that can be acheived. the only thing you can know is that paradox is wrong. man can know only that he knows nothing at all of course. some would say this itself is a paradox but really that is just a limit of the language
Thats what i was trying to say, but in less sophisticated terms. But is it completely impossible for the mind to percieve what is real beyond paradoxes?...of course if we did there would be no physical way to express it, so such an experience could never be shared.
i'm not sure even discouvered is the right word. most appearant paradoxes are simply an artifact of linguistic expression. of attempting to put into words observations that are not particularly conducive to being put into words. i don't know if it is impossible for paradoxes to exist tangibly. i don't know if anything is. but i do know that very nearly all that i know of are the direct artifacts of language. and those few which are not might well be artifacts of observational method. =^^= .../\...
leading into my next point, if the universe was a paradox, it would be indefinable. there would be.. therefor.. infinite possible states at any one time. this is what quantum physics has suggested...
Doesn't get much more true than that. - I like what was mentioned before, surely paradoxes are just the result of our own logic/symbolism.. and although a paradox may be "wrong", that may just be the result of two badly 'shaped' points representing opposites (if you take the sphere model into account... which by the way I also like ... any two opposite points are symbols, there is actually no 'point' on the sphere, only opposites). What the symbols represent are always "right", the symbols themselves create the paradox.
my favorite philosophy professor in college had a big jar labelled "unsolved paradoxes" sitting front and center on his desk, no matter how many books and papers were stacked up everywhere. It finally got the better of me, and I uncorked it and looked inside. It was empty. LOL!
