218. Chemtrail and covert climate war (4/4/04)

218. Chemtrail and covert climate war (4/4/04)

In many web sites, there is a common topic: "chemtrail". People puzzled what is it for. They worried the chemistry will hurt human's health and pollute the nature.

Here is a typical post about chemtrail in a discussion.

Quote, "Chemtrail, the name given to non-dissipating vapor-like trails left in our skies in grid like patterns by high altitude, unmarked aircraft. People all over the world have now witnessed these, and they've been so concerned that they have contacted their governmental representatives.

Dennis Kucinich has included this phenomenon as part of his protest statements against U.S. space weapon development. Other senators have been involved, too.

So, what is going on? Are these just harmless jet vapor trails? Is it a hoax and just airplane pollution? i wish NPR or Bill Moyers would cover the subject thoroughly... Go to the link and scroll down to see images and read material to decide for yourselves: http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

With my experience, (see "210. Create rain day"; "211. Create windy day (3/4)"; "217. Create a heat climate") I say it is the experiment to control climate. Pentagon use climate change as a weapon. It has been used in pratical life already.

I allege:

1. The hurricane which took place last summer in mid US which caused more than a dozen loss of lives was an experiment of how to create a devastating wind. And the cold weather in North-east early this year was one, too. Because they were historical extreme. Like what I've talked in last message about heat. For consecutive days, the heat record were broken, not only one degree or two, but 4 to 6 degrees. It's unusual.

2. The climate war has been in practice already. North Korean is a victim. North Korean suffered histrical drought for years then followed by flooding. The famine caused millions of deaths. The purpose is to weak the ruling government. Just like the sanction applied on Iraq. But the victims are always the civilians.

3. The historical flood in German last summer, it happened soon after Iraq war. German and France are the two main countries against Bush's invasion of Iraq. The revenge was swift, though in a covert way.

4. The historical heat wave attacked France last summer. The heat wave lasted for weeks. The news reported unusual deaths caused by heat were more then ten thousands. French is the strongest opposer to Bush's Iraq war, it suffered a strong revenge from US inside group.

5. An intimidation to Britain and Europe under the cover of climate change. Here is a news

Quote, "25.01.2004

2.00pm - By GEOFFREY LEAN

Britain is likely to be plunged into an ice age within our lifetime by global warming, new research suggests.

If that happens, Britain and northern Europe are expected to switch abruptly to the climate of Labrador - which is on the same latitude - bringing a nightmare scenario where farmland turns to tundra and winter temperatures drop below -20C. The much-heralded cold snap predicted for the coming week would seem balmy by comparison.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3545437&thesection=news&thesubsection=world "

But is Tony Blair an honest ally of Bush? Yes, he was. But read this news not reported by mainstream media of US, you may realise why Blair's figure rarely seen in media recently. They censor news which may reveal how unpopular the war policy of US is. Watch the time of two news, you'll understand why I say it is an intimidation.

Quote, "BUSH AND BLAIR: THE BIG FALL-OUT

Dec 21 2003

Relations in 'deep freeze' since Saddam caught

By Chris Mclaughlin, Political Editor

TONY Blair and George Bush's love-in has collapsed over the rebuilding of Iraq. The two leaders have fallen out over plans for the reconstruction of the country and the heavy-handed action of American troops against the civilian population. And the rift has been deepened by a Washington ban on a proposed morale-boosting visit by the PM to British troops in Iraq during the Christmas holiday.

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/...SH-AND-BLAIR--THE-BIG-FALL-OUT-name_page.html

I think the intimidation aimed at Britain, as well as Europe. Because the war policy of US inside group is more and more lonely in this world.

 

345. Hurricane, a tool to distract (9/27/05)

I allege the recent hurricanes were practice of climate war. It was part of framed case plotted by D.O.J..

1. Motive: As I have said, the September plot planned to kill two birds by one stone. Hurricanes were developed to help this purpose. (The main action was terror attack)

(1) To distract the peace movement, New Orleans was drowned by flood caused by Katrina on 8/29. The tragic scene thereafter occupied the whole page and screen of media for weeks which at same time drowned the news of Cindy Sheehan's anti war bus trip that started one day later.

The national emergency rescue was deliberately delayed. Military waited three days for orders. The slow re-action is not only incompetent but a crime when a city was drowned. But this was what inside group needed. The delay of rescue could create more stories of death, loot to draw public's attention. The media even activated an accusation war of who should be responsible for the slow action All these aimed at one purpose, to divert public's attention from peace movement.

Of course for the big demonstration of 9/24, Inside Group prepared a big hurricane. Media blew the trumpet to propaganda that Hurricane Rita was shaping up to be one of the strongest Storms ever to hit the USA, exceeding even Katrina. And the landing date of Rita was exactly the same day - 9/24.

As a project to distract, hurricane Katrina and Rita was a success. There is little report about anti-war gathering. They checked up the momentum of Peace movement at the loss of thousand lives and hundred billions worth of properties.

(2) To cover up the framed case, Katrina also played an important role. My case is a big one. Feds has accumulated large quantity of real estates property in the case. To keep the value of these properties, they abuse the power to keep the long term interest rate low. Feds creates a strange phenomenon: all other merchandise were in low price which include automobile, computer, food, clothes .... except the house. To maintain a booming real estate market, they almost make the long term interest rate equal to the short term one. But all these are artificial. Once I was eliminated and they released their properties, all the restriction on other merchandise will be released too. There will be a big inflation in US then. Long term interest rate will go sky rocket. For this economic crisis, Inside Group even prepared to squeeze more from American people. They passed a new bankruptcy law for those potential victims of the coming economic tsunami. And Feds also prepared a justification for that crisis. When despaired people get angry, government will attribute the failure to the hurricanes. It damaged oil industry in the Gulf of Mexico and caused high gas price. Everybody will believe so because they feel the bite when they pump the gas. The real cause of the crisis will be neglected. Hurricanes would be the excuse of an economy depression if the 9/24 frame case has been carried out.

Ophelia was another storm developed around 9/10 in East Coast. The newspaper said "It loitered in the Atlantic for days, and is trudging so slowly that it should spend two days on North Carolina.", "It's been very difficult to get a feeling of what Ophelia is going to do." The strange thing is here. For Rita and Katrina, the media seemed knew what they were going to do and even draw a timing route for their future movement. Why they couldn't tell Ophelia's?

I know why. Ophelia was a work of operation team of climate war. The team worked it out after they finished Katrina and then after Ophelia, they went for Rita. The task for Ophelia was to distract, (or even play a role) in a trip accident. My relatives were then in a trip in East Coast and Canada.(From 9/10 to 9/17). On 9/2 and 9/7, I continued to warn that Feds would create a travel accident to eliminate my family members. (#339, #340). To justify it, they even produced several air crash within a month. Ophelia wandered along East Coast, it was waiting for the decision of Feds. Its movement puzzled FEMA team.

On 9/15, news said Ophelia left East Coast for ocean. I knew Feds had postponed the plan of travel accident

Feds had planned the Rita even stronger than Katrina. They even put the landing date on 9/24 the action date. But it was too evident a plot after my revelation. When in final days, news changed the tones said that Rita wouldn't develop to category 5, I knew the 9/24 frame case and bombing plot went sour.

But the persecution won't stop. It goes on. (to be continued)

 

Heard about that a few years ago. Urban myth from what I hear... I really don't believe in extreme conspiracy theories like these...

 

Back in the 1970's when the US built Omega bases here, it was claimed that they were using ultra-low frequency transmissions to distort weather patterns at the opposite side of the world, and opposite OZ is the old USSR. And then very heavy snows fell in USSR and Europe. Weather patterns aint been the same since, but Industrial atmospheric pollution sure has caused someweather mayhem as well.
Maybe coincidence. Maybe not. Hoo Hoo knows?
Pine Gp, OZ

http://www.rense.com/general2/wx.htm

http://roswell.fortunecity.com/callanish/129/pinegap_history.htm

 

Rense= Great source of credible information


kathaksung.. thanks for the biggest laugh i have had in many many days.. This stuff is is unbeleivably funny...i hope for your sanity you are joking...and don't think this is true

''Blair's figure rarely seen in media recently. ''

He is in the News every friggin day...even back in 04

 

Well, the way I see it is like this ~ say an idiot comes running to you and says they saw 17 elephants running amok, and you dismisss him outright. Then next day you read about 17 elephants runninmg amok. I keep an open mind, discount nothing, and use discretion. Prejudicail bias has a way of biting arses.

 

Matthew - you are one of the most closed-minded people I have met. You know so little, but you talk so much. You think you know everything, yet you don't know shit.

Chemtrails are real, and they can be seen on a regular basis over both urban and rural areas.

 

I was not really doubting chemtrails i know about them..and have seen threads posted here...I think i even added them to a thread i started in the environment section [They named them contrails] http://hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=838754&postcount=7
http://www.contrails.nl/ .
I even may have read within a thread of yours about it being observed more closely [comparative studies] due to the lack of aeroplane movement after 9/11...Maybe i should have gone into more detail why i was laughing..

I was laughing at the 'climate war'... and somebodys paranoid delusions the feds had created hurricanes

small snippet:

As a project to distract, hurricane Katrina and Rita was a success.

I know why. Ophelia was a work of operation team of climate war. The team worked it out after they finished Katrina and then after Ophelia, they went for Rita. The task for Ophelia was to distract, (or even play a role) in a trip accident. My relatives were then in a trip in East Coast and Canada.(From 9/10 to 9/17). On 9/2 and 9/7, I continued to warn that Feds would create a travel accident to eliminate my family members. (#339, #340). To justify it, they even produced several air crash within a month. Ophelia wandered along East Coast, it was waiting for the decision of Feds. Its movement puzzled FEMA team.

please this is ridiculous..



Call me close minded all you like.. i am not believing this nonsense.. judging by not many people posting i reckon i am not alone. Whats that saying about having such a open mind any old bollocks can fall in ??? something like that i think ???

 

351. Hurricane (2) (continue to #345) (10/17/05)

2. New Orleans was selected to be a sacrifice.
(1) Most residents there are black people. It accords to consistent deed of Feds. Black is always the sacrifice.

(2) Hurricane used to cause damage. But that's not enough to bring public's attention. To reach the aim of distract, they need news of death, a lot of deaths. Nothing can help them to achieve this goal more than to drown a city. And New Orleans was a city fits Feds' demand. They knew this at least four years ago. The reality is exactly the same as Civil Engineering predicted.

Quote,
CIVIL ENGINEERING (October 2001 issue )
Drowning New Orleans
A major hurricane could swamp New Orleans under 20 feet of water, killing thousands.

By Mark Fischetti
http://tinyurl.com/eyrrl

(3) A news rarely reported by mainstream media:

Locals, Officials Suggest Levees were Intentionally Blown
Evidence suggests there were "cracks" in levees that were intentionally ignored, questions over how they failed.

Steve Watson, September 9 2005

Could the levees in New Orleans have been INTENTIONALLY blown out in order to provide the justification for total FEMA federal takeover?

The locals certainly seem to think so, yet, as usual, the mainstream media is barely picking up on this wave of opinion, so it is left to us once again to bring the issue into the open.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9413.html

3. Artificial characters of Katirina and Rita and their similarity.

(1) Timing:

Both took six days to develop from a tropical storm to a strong hurricane to land the coast. Katrina was a tropical storm on 8/24, it developed to a category 5 hurricane on 8/28 and landed the coast on 8/29. (the 6th day) Rita was a tropical storm on 9/19, It developed to category 4 then weakened to category 3 on 9/23, (as I have said, the framed case went sour so it was unnecessary to make bigger damage) it landed on 9/24 (the 6th day)

(2) Route.

Both hurricanes started from Bahamas. Both moved westwards to the Gulf of Mexico. They marched without any hesitation. The chart shows their routes are two smooth lines.

(3) Steady development
Both two hurricanes developed in an evenly step that in final day Katrina upgraded to category 5, (Rita would have)

(4) Accuracy.

In Mercury News of 9/20, (the information must be of 9/19, when Rita was still an original tropical storm) there was a map showing the route Rita would take. It specifies the location and timing of Rita. The late development proves it was approximately correct with particular accuracy on timing.

A strong artificial hurricane needs following condition:
(1) A big operation of chemical spreading in large area for days.
(2) To form a hurricane, even with the help of chemistry, it still needs a large amount of water vapour. So it must be in an area with rich water supply. .

The Gulf of Mexico is an ideal area for such practice. (Of course, the most important thing is that New Orleans is there.) Then you see two similar hurricanes formed and moved along the coast. Far enough in the ocean to have plenty water vapour supply, near enough to save the cost of operation. They gathered strength within 6 days and moved in a direct line. Because any extra day or way out of line were unnecessary which would have been a waste. (to be continued)

 

I agree with the paranoid presumption of climate control conspiracy, but by the same token (and speaking entirely for myself and not pontificating) I don't rule anything out because of my own inherant (oft-times invisible/un-noticeable) biasses or prejudices.
When I first discovered the "chemtrail" stuff in the US I couldn't believe it on the basis of simple common sense. The supposed "chemtrails" are known to all but the ignorant as "vapour trails" that are caused by air reconnecting in the slipstreams of jets after apssing by the body or wings, which forces the water in the air to form vapour (steam).
The weather manipulation may or may not be. some day we might find out. But the way I go about it is, as I said, to discount nothing. Mainly because alomost every bizarre sci-fi concept of my youth has now been realised in reality. Still waiting for the "two-way wrist radio" that Dick Tracey had. I've been hanging out for that since 1960. But maybe we've surpassed that with mobile phones, or maybe the wrist model is next! Oh boy Oh boy!

 

I guess fact is sometimes stranger than fiction... i guess i have a few inherant (oft-times invisible/un-noticeable) biasses or prejudices.

Type in X2X freetalker

 

Ditto unreserved.
X2X ~ well bugger me! I've already arrived in the future and didn't know it. Thanks.

 

352. Pre-psychological propaganda (10/22/05)

On 7/7 and 7/21, there were bombings took place in London. It was a cover up operation to justify the plotted master bombing in US. To deceive the public that these were the work of Al Qaida. The unusual events happened in same day (July 21) may prove my allegation.(see #330)

Then Feds planned a big action day in September.(9/24) They also planned an elimination of my family members and arranged a trip accident for them. To make the accident not so unusual, Feds, too, prepared a series of airplane accidents to cover up it. In three weeks from 8/14 to 9/5, there were four big air accidents.

1. On 8/14, a Greece plane crashed near Athens, 121 killed.
2. On 8/16, a West Caribbean Airways plane crashed in Venezuela; 152 killed.
3. On 8/24, a TANS Peru plane crashed in the Amazon jungle, killing 37.
4. On 9/5, an Indonesian jetliner crashed in North Sumatra, killing at least 60 of passengers. (The above information were from news of the day.)

When I first heard of Greece accident, I only impressed by the mysterious situation (lack of oxygen, frozen) before its crash. But when the Peru air crash took place, I realize it might be an operation to cover up a coming air accident. My relatives were arranged in a trip between 9/10 and 9/17. If an accident happened, it would be easily added one more to the above list and wouldn't cause any notice. That's why I talked about this twice in 9/2 and 9/7. (see #339, 340)

Pre-psychological influence is a very important tactic Feds uses. We have seen scenes such like Lewinsky scandal, Wen Ho Lee's case, WMD in Iraq..... The recent one is the hurricane Katrina and Rita. Which mainly planned to justify for a high rising inflation. So media want us expecting a gas of 5.00/gallon because most of the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico were damaged by hurricane and so was for many oil refineries. That how much money would spend for the refugee and re-build.(e.g. 400,000 people live in the hotels and how much that costs for one day's rent) Now these kind of information are disappeared from media. Or proved to be exaggerated. What I see is the oil dropped below $60.00 a barrel.(10/26) Why, because the framed case went sour and Feds still must keep the interest rate as low as they can to maintain a high housing market.

If the framed case have went successfully, I believe you would meet another face of media. Then you would have believed that all that sudden jumping high inflation was caused by oil and the natural disaster.

The latest movement of propaganda activated by Feds is the Bird Flu. That's another psychological war to justify a new slaughter in the name of natural disaster. Watch how the media propaganda it under the command of Feds.

 

What the fuck are you talking about? You've got to be the stupidest mother fucker I've ever seen anywhere. You know what, suicide might just work for you. I mean seriously, it will help the rest of the people.

 

chemtrails used regularly, I mean seriously, what the fuck are you smoking. They're called contrails, they are made from the exhaust of the jet, and the wing splitting air pressures. Dumb ass.

 

I did think about responding further in this thread..even highlighting the fact that a senior member of the whitehouse ..has shares in Tamiflu..but i can't perpetuate this any further..its just too funny.

 

This is another case of fearing what you don't understand. They are not "chemtrails"....that is conspiracy theorist crap. They are "comtrails"....just water vapour. Same as the clouds.
It has to do with the speed of the air going over the wings of a jet.

 

There is a difference between contrails and chemtrails. Try differentiating the two before you mock.

Contrails usually disappear within minutes. Chemtrails last for hours and spread out in the sky, creating an artificial cloud-haze. Chemtrails are also laid down in abnormal flight patterns (X's, grids, cross-hatch), so we know this isn't just regular air traffic.

 

Chemtrails have even made the mainstream media.

Here is an article from the LAS VEGAS TRIBUNE:

http://www.lasvegastribune.com/20050819/headline1.html

Yet, we are kooks for talking about REAL issues?

I am so sick of ignorant, closed-minded people. Yes, the government is spraying shit over your heads, without your knowing, and it's about time you all woke up and did something. Knowledge is power!

Stop believing that conspiracies aren't real. They are real, and they happen on a daily basis.