yes, dreams are real processes occuring in your brain, which is much much smaller than the many environments that are within the subject dream. in the brain is flesh and blood. in your dreams are many things. that is how!
last night i had a dream that i fell asleep at my friends house and realized i was dreaming. in my dream inside the dream, i was home. i woke myself up, and was still at my friends house, and it wasn't until about three hours later in my dream that i actually woke up in "real life", at home. maybe i'm about to wake up again.
Dreams are overated. People think they can decipher them, but can't. We aren't even close to understanding the human mind, so stop pretending you do!
You can decipher dreams, but only your own ones. I think there is a lot more known about the mind than you, and most people investigate though astral planes.. well we are all entitled to oppinion of course.. but ive never seen any reason to believe in astral planes.
you can decipher dreams, but it's easier to decipher life. if there's something obvious, like you keep dreaming about your dead uncle, you probably already know what's bugging you. but if you keep dreaming you are in a room full of purple carrots... that probably has about as much relevance to your everyday life as being awake in a room full of packaging peanuts would have to your dreams. i think trying to find hidden meanings behind your dreams will just cause obsession and screw with your head and not be beneficial in any way. like, i have dreams that i talk to my dad (who is dead) all the time. but if i start to believe that when i sleep i leave my body and actually communicate with spirits, i'll go insane trying to remember to ask him about god and the afterlife. and whatever he tells me, i'll believe completely and base my life around. i try to remember what "he" (and by he, i really mean myself) said when he did answer my questions, just to figure out what i am thinking in the depths of my own mind, but i would never believe it was really my dad or someone outside of me. dreams are real. the events that occur in them aren't, as far as i know.
butt, how can we imagine somthing, unless it exists. what i mean is, if we can imagine somthing, than it has to exist somwhere "outthere", because, where do we retrieve it from. what i mean is, what we cant imagine, doesnt exist. for us too imagine it than it has to exist, in this ball of energy we call reality and its contents. i mean we have to be imagining it out of somthing, its origin. it comes from the single ball of energy which is existence, thats where we retrieve it from. and ultimatly, were all connected to this ball. shit, im scaring myself.
the individual components of a dream must come from somewhere, yes, but they can be rearranged in a way that is not found in real life (unless that comes after the dream, ie)
Dreams are no different than what your calling waking life. They just appear more luminous. You weren't born grounded in your principals, you just made them that way.
stimuli of your dream comes from your brain, stimuli of waking life comes from forces outside your body. its really a very simple and well defined distinction of course some stimuli while awake comes from the brain but the majority of it (major senses) do not
however it seems as though dreams become sooo real, and reality soo fake. i have dreams soo real they seem like memories, and my memories soo fake they seem like dreams. ultimatly, are they the same thing. perhaps everyday we wake up were somwhere else, but dont know it. like a different world. it just seems as if nothing has changed because were altered soo deeply while "dreaming" and no 2 days are connected. its just soooo insane the possibilities about what "things" are, and that if you were to really discover somthing soo incredible like eXistenZ for example, you wouldnt care who thought you were crazy.i beleive anything is possible, and the idea of life is soo twisted its sick. that your sitting reading this that im writing, and your consciusness is seperate from mine, and just what we dont know. were soo pety and stupid, just sittin here litteraly floating through space, totaly vunerable to everthing. everyday almost feels like doomsday, as if were all here just waiting, as if my brain knows somthing others doesnt. they dont realise were just nothing bits of energy and molecules, proceeding through life with totally no meaning or purpose no matter how famous or rich you become. hmmm, im rambling my beliefs and views. im interested to know what others think...
a lot of them know that actually. others realise you cant be that certain of anything, if you truelly believed you were simply particles of matter. it is a paradox inherit in this belief and thus (if you read the recent paradox thread) i dont believe it is possible to believe anything with sickening certainty, IF you believe in nihilist, physics bound universe (as opposed to a diety/spirit force bound universe). as for your first point, there is a reason for this seeming realness of dream memories and fakeness of real memories. you see, real memories come from stimulus from the outside world. they are interpreted through senses, through filters, data is interpreted in certain ways from the stimuli, and not every bit of stimuli activates neurons (if it did, we would have total photographic memory of everything in our life - impossible). however, dreams COME from the neurons that are there, and so every single element of your dream is traveling through pathways already set up, in order to strengthen them in different ways. since every stimuli of a dream comes from the neurons, every single stimuli of a dream is able to be remembered. now, we dont remember every detail of every dream, we actually remember a tiny fraction of our dreams, but the bits we DO remember have potential for many times more detail and reminiscence than any memory stored from data that has been selected and filtered out of our gross sense. i hope you understand what i mean
oh and yeh while they both arethe same thing, vulnerable, particles in space, you need to consider the practical use of the word 'real'.
its more of a sickening uncertainty, disbelief of reality. i see what you mean about the neron stuff. we believe what our mind tells us, before what we perceive, because what our mind tells us is more real, than what is "really real". we believe what our imagination depicts of reality, meaning anything can be real to any person no matter what it is or how "far fetched" it may sound to another. humans are smart, its also our weakness, we need meaning and purpose to life. therfore people have created religion. i am a defenitive non-believer. i try to create my own beliefs and create meaning for each day. putting sticks and leaves on my textbooks for a day and it worked. it was different and made the text a more interesting read. i know that sounds weird, but is there any other things other people do to make things "different" or more exciting to try to create meaning and purpose for their day. bringing inside out and outside items in, is a somthing different that creates a feeling of purpose or somthing different apart from the shit that is everday life. try it.
