What do u think of Rottweilers? (nasty, protective,etc)

lol thats rich comming from u aint it ive been brought up with rotties ive even had rotties breed once and i know that rotties that attack must have been provoked because i know the rottweilers egsistance and i know their surroundings so SHUT IT!!

 

Um, Paula? I was talking to Sprout, not you. He obviously has never been around Rottys, but he's a sailor and they like to run their mouths about things they know nothig about and hang out at bath houses a lot. So I forgive him.

 

Thats complete bullshit! You have no basis for saying that because you weren't there and you didn't sdee it so how can you say that? Really. How can you possibly say that....

please......


You asked how people felt about Rottweilers (hence the title of your thread) and when you get a negative response you guys freak the fuck out. Obviouly you didn't want to know how people felt unless they liked them.



Once again I'm not insulting people who own them. I could care less. But when I say how much I don't like them I get insulted. Does this say something about people who own them??? I wonder...

 

Sounds like somebody didn't finish school or something. I'd do my own homework if I were you. Why don't you show me something that disproves what I said. Please. I dare you.

 

Because, ass. It was your assertion.

 

love em had one for 12 years, let me ride him like a horse when i was little, always played we me and my two sisters, whenever someone he didnt know came to the house he would sit by the door until the person left, i plan on getting one when i get a place

 

OK, since you asked, let's do this.

Your assertion in your own words:

I read 12 studies done over the course of 20 years by the CDC, which is tasked with tracking dog bite cases. Data was compiled from the Humane Society of the US, National Academy of Pediatrics and the Association of Veterinary Medicine. No where did any survey state that female rottweillers are more prone to biting children. Combined, the surveys did state the following facts as related to dogs:

There are an estimated 62.5 million pet dogs in the US.

Dog bites cause an estimated 585,000 injuries annually.

51% of these bites involve children.

Biting dogs are more likely to be Germans Shepherd or Chow Chow, and more often unneutered males.

Of dog bite related fatalities (DBRF) studied over a 20 year period:

At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human DBRF cases during the study period.

Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweillers were involved in more than half of these DBRF cases.

OK, so you say I made your case. Wrong. You asserted that female Rottys tend to attack children. No data exists to support your claim. You are a liar. Strike one.

This is an opinion which is not borne out by accumulated data. You are entitled to your opinion, just don't confuse it with facts. Strike two.

I could not find any evidence of this incident. I lived in Monterey California at the Defense Language Institute in 1987-88 when James Soto, a 5 year old boy was killed by two pit bulls guarding a neighbor's marijuana crop in San Jose. That case I am very familiar with. Please post your story.

Thank you for your permission.

 

ouch dont be mean to sprout!!!!! I DEMAND IT!!!

 

I love rotties! They are actually one of my favorite breeds! They can be sooo loyal,playful and are usually big sooks!All of the rotts I have met are HUGE sooks!


There are no bad dogs...only bad owners!The reason you hear horror stories of rotties and pitbulls attacking people and kids is because they are trained aggressivly or abused.Any dog can attack a person or kid,even a lab! So don't judge a certain breed because you heard horror stories.

 

OK. First of all I will begin by saying that I am not a liar.

I did my own research and could not find any information supporting what I said about female Rottweilers and a natural aggression towards children.


A study was conducted and I did see it but in the 3 or 4 years since the study things obviously have changed but I did see it and the evidence at the time was QUITE clear. It was not my "claim".

So my good sir I did not lie about what I said nor did I make anything up.

Everything I said was based on something that at least used to be true.


When I say that I find them to be dangerous there is plenty of accumulated data to support the way I feel.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/breeds-causing-DBRFs.pdf

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through 1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998.


In March 2003, four Rottweilers killed a four-year-old New Brunswick boy. The dogs belonged to a friend of the boy's father, and were living at the house.

In May 2003, a Rottweiler mauled a 26-year-old lab technician in Ottawa. The woman was severely traumatized, and her face will be scarred for life.


Most dog bite victims are children. In many cases, teasing or unintentionally provoking an aggressive reaction from a dog leads to a bite, but occasionally an attack is unprovoked.


The majority of dog attacks (61%) happen at home or in a familiar place.


The vast majority of biting dogs (77%) belong to the victim's family or a friend

When a child less than 4 years old is the victim, the family dog was the attacker half the time (47%), and the attack almost always happened in the family home (90%).

The odds that a bite victim will be a child are 3.2 to 1. (CDC.)



A family with small children might get the wrong kind of dog, such as an aggressive shepherd or pit bull, thinking it will protect the children, when in fact such dogs feel challenged by little ones and therefore snap at them.


Now while not all of these numbers are from Rottweilers alone I think its safe to say that they represent a large piece of the percentage.

Some other related links include

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/09/15/deadly.dogs.ap/


This link includes a chart with the breeds of dogs and the number of fatalities involved with each breed from 1979 to 1998

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/breeds-causing-DBRFs.pdf


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Now ONCE AGAIN. I was invited to come and speak about the way I feel about Rottweilers. I have been met with nothing but insults since. I may have mis-stated some things but NOTHING I said was I lie. Everything I said was based on some kind of fact be it past or present.

Also, just because you can't find something on the "internet" doesn't mean it isn't true or isn't out there.

I also don't have all the time in the world to be researching the dangerous history of Rottweilers. While it is interesting material I simply have other things to do. I am however more than happy to continue this discussion.

I simply don't feel that they are safe animals to have in a household especially one with children. It is also my hope that all of you Rottweiler owners will at least be aware of these dangers.

 

Its ok. They can be as mean as they like.

I would say that Zoomie and I were just having a discussion on the matter like two adults should be able to but he has resorted to insults so....

 

Sprout, that's all good, but I already posted all of that data on DBRF and Rottweillers. You stated that there was a study that female rottweillers were aggressive to young children and you seem to stand by your assertion, but you are waffling on any bibliography to make your assertion stand. And by the rules of the english language and common rule of debate, when you make an assertion and have no established data to back it up, it is YOUR CLAIM.

I apologize for insulting you. As a former breeder and someone involved in pet rescue for longer than most people in this forum have been on earth this time, as well as a former shelter employee in Washington DC, I will state with all confidence that I have never, EVER had contact with a vicious animal that wasn't made that way by an abusive, neglectful or willful owner. It's a pretty emotional issue for me with good reason. I left the New York Ave Animal Shelter after euthanizing animals all night for three straight weeks. Most were pit bulls who had either mauled people or been taken away from their owners. I still occasionally have nightmares about it. In other words, just like guns don't kill people, people kill people... Dogs are not inherently vicious, they are made vicious by the actions of the people who keep them.

That would be my opinion and my experience alone if there were not data from the CDC, HSUS, USPS and millions of dog owners to back it up.

Rottweillers make good family pets if properly raised and socialized. Tell me you've owned several and you might convince me otherwise.

 

Agreed. We'll let it stand at that. I accept your apology but again say that it was not my intention to convince anyone of anything. Originally I was just stating my opinion on the matter.

I would have never gone through all the trouble of gathering links and all that bullshit normally but it became a challenge and I never turn down a challenge, win or lose.

I respect your opinion and experience on the matter.

 

well of course they dont my rotts have always loved children and always will do! everybody knows that rottweilers love children just dont like to be around toodlers that much thas all because toddlers tend to pull thema round and jump on them!!

 

i think your opinion towards rotties is very undstandable, but im sticking to what i said because im a big lover of them i know their attack stratagies and capabilities to what they tend to harm or kill, killing to a rottie is like giving a bottle to a baby, they only attack or kill if needed/intended to, by the way ppl who dont like then get stuffed they always get slandard for attacks but never mind attacks from other breeds of dogs, yes rotties may be very powerful and threatning but they arn't mean my opinion is U LOVE A ROTTIE THEY'LL LOVE U RITE BK!! (talking from experience)

in actual fact i had a doberman when i was younger, aswell as a rottie and it turned around and snaped at my uncle, dobermans are more predictable than rotties its just rotties have bigger and more powerful jaws thats all!

 

i think those are wonderful dogs, i've never had one but i always wanted to.
I just love dogs in general.. with a few exceptions but almost all !!

 

i know im a big lover of animals especially dogs!!

 

I love Rotts and have been around them alot. My dog is rott/pitbull mix hes such a sweetheart. As far as my opions on Rotts I think that there an awesome dog and that many are misjudged. Rotts as well asany other breed of dog are capable of hurting people though as I know from past experience with a family member. My brother was down in Detroit and there was a stray Rott running about and it came up to my brother and i guess it seemed to be friendly, so my bro was petting it. for some reason the dog must have felt threatened at one point in time because he unexpectadly attacked my brother, the dog was unprovoked. Bully breeds pits, rotts, dobies, sheperds, and others, can make great pets/friends they are just one of the more unpredictable breeds and people need to know what they are getting themselfs into before adopting one of these breeds. and although we dont like to admit it there is agression in there blood just like all dogs just more so, it was bred into them. my dog is the most loyal, loving, protective dog i have ever owned, and i love him to death, but i do makesure to keep an eye on him around small children and strangers just because he is so protective. and there has been one unexpected case where he bit a family friend unprovoked in the human mind. not in all cases of attacks is it the owners fault either, ive heard of some of the nicest dogs that were perfectly raised attacking people for no apparent reason. rotts are good dogs, like many of u said they just need to raised the correct way and given the proper care and most of the time uve got the best dog in the world as a precaution it is just good to keep a watchful eye on them when they are around children and strangers people outside of the family

 

i agree u r suppost to keep an eye on your rotts while their around small kids im like that with my little cousan she jumps on their bk and im worrying just in case they have enough but my dogs have always loved kids, they'll let my cousan run all over them, although they are very protective towards me meaning they dont allow other dogs or ppl near me in the street but apart form that their lovely and so pitbulls are 2!

 

I have only seen or touched a few rotties, but I think generally they are well behaved sweet dogs. I had a friend that had a pit bull you could have beaten him over the head with a shovel and he wouldn't have even offered to bite.
I have an aunt that had a golden retriever and he bite me about 4 times and several of my cousin's when I was little. I never did anything to provoke it. One time I was sleeping at my great grandmother's house, he ran in through the door and took a chunk out of my face right below my eye. He bite my cousin in the eye. His top teeth went through her eyebrow and bottom teeth right below her eye.
I have been bitten by a few golden's (they are very high strung). I've also been biten by Sheltie's, Airdales and my current dog a schnauzer (I'm having a hard time typing because I have a cat laying on my hand so excuse the mistakes!).
Anyway my point is all dogs can bite even the most tame can snap. Pitbulls and Rotties have stronger jaws so they do more damage. Some dogs just aren't wired up right too. My dog is very hyper and protective of me. I think he's in love with me and he will attack anyone that comes near me. He has bitten me though. I would never completely trust any animal or person for that matter!