UN claims nation-state old-fashioned, lez have a Fair World Order

Discussion in 'Globalization' started by Solve et Coagula, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. Brothwood, you are far behind in hipforums news...these guys attribute every major organisation in the world to the rule of a bunch of gay satanists bent on world domination. I think you might have got them started, especially this painting james guy, i think he's more disturbed than the rest, the paranoia must've got to him.
     
  2. brothwood

    brothwood Member

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    *whispers* you know we shouldn't post too loudly, they may think we are part of the conspiracy against them, which erm er are not;)
    peacex
     
  3. *Whispers back* Its ok as long as you go along with everything they say and don't make eye contact, its currently mating season ;)
     
  4. gEo_tehaD_returns

    gEo_tehaD_returns Senior Member

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    It's all complicated. You would have to be retarded to a significant degree to believe that bringing all humans together to work for the common good of the whole would be a bad thing. However, conspiracy theories aside, doing so NOW, when the structure of power places almost all control in the hands of a small number of people who are mostly concerned with profit and political gain, would probably create a world that closely resembles Rat's prediction. Before nations can be unified, there have to be some significant changes. People MUST value the self-determination of all individuals. Power must be distributed as evenly as possible among every human being within a nation before that nation can join a global community. Power tends to corrupt absolutely, right? So if an already powerful individual or group enters into the global community, they will almost certainly seek as much control over that community as they can possibly attain, making attempts to create a global dictatorship very likely.

    It's a lot like the drug war. Before drugs are made illegal, there is never a large problem with their abuse. It would seem logical then that they should just be legalized immediately, but doing so after forbidding the drug for so long would probably create a severe problem with abuse of that drug. The drug's legalization would have to be gradual, beginning with education and a massive change in the country's view of that drug. It's not the greatest example, but I think you understand what I'm saying. Uniting the globe now is a terrible mistake.
     
  5. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    yes, the shift in global conscienceness...it's happening in more ways than one...only until the people look for the truth will they find it. to usher in an age to revert back to the Earth is a long way in comming, but forces of such strength and beauty as these never die.

    on a similar note...it's funny. the favorite line of people trying to defend something they have absolutley no idea about always dissolves down to the fabled line. "oh well maybe the source of your information is part of the conspiracy." it seems the so called "supporters" of "freedom" and "democracy" are really just waaay more paraniod theocracists with an agenda of obsessive consumption coupled with dogmatic instilled ideals not so far from when Galelao told the masses the world was in fact round...fucking squares. so smart and important, us mere peasants (to stick with the metaphor) have nothing to offer an Inquisiton hell bent on proving to everyone else how right they are. us "conspiracy nuts" who actually do our research and are trying to conduct an open minded discussion in one of the last refuges of true free speech left commercially viable are constantly harassed by the likes of people who could just as easily go somewhere they could contribue facts and intelligently based theories instead of biased opinions on information of which they have no idea.
    we have come a long way since Galelao, yet it's amazing how much things stay the same. just absolutley amazing!
     
  6. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    hey laying in a field...pm me your address/p.o. box...i'll send you a copy of the book.
     
  7. Aurolacul

    Aurolacul Member

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    It is unfortunate Rat, that a lot of people do not see this conspiracy which I believe is happening before our very eyes. I mean I say to those people who think that we are mad: OK, don't believe us, say we are wackos, kooks, whatever, but at least develop some form of critical thinking. Then, you might be in a better position to accuse us of anything.
     
  8. No thanks. I know where to get the books myself. I do plan to read about your conspiracy theories you know.

    Its not the theories that bother me, its the insanely righteous people who band them around, so naturally i make a correlation between the two.
     
  9. Believing in conspiracy theories gives one the lovely benefit of not having to think critically.
     
  10. Aurolacul

    Aurolacul Member

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    I believe in conspiracy theories based on evidence and critical thinking. I didn't just wake up one day and think: "Oh wait, it's all one big conspiracy, oh no." Based on evidence from various websites of the true nature of events, I have come out to the conclusion that we are living a conspiracy. Some of these conspiracy theorists probably have their own agenda, but the matter is, that most of the things they claim to exist are based on hard fact and the evidence is stacked against the official voice of the government on a number of things.

    When a person goes to court, the guilty verdict is based on evidence. I mean, you might be perfectly right to say that conspiracy is bull, but based on the ways that a court decides, the evidence is stacked against the accused, in this case the government. It might be innocent, but for this they have to make their case and they are doing so very badly, being very secretive about it.
     
  11. So you're not explicitly self-righteous, sounds like you could be a nice addition to the forums. Welcome, maybe we can have truly 'open minded discussions'
     
  12. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    thats cool you are interested in going to do some research before you try to know what you're talking about. i'll admit i am guilty of this too...why do you think i come to these forums if not to crystallize my thinking rational. you'll have to excuse my insane self-righteousness...i am beyond the scope of your understanting. and i am not going to lay down in the field and wiat for you or anyone to catch up with me. all i can offer you is a note, that there is more to this world than you and many like you have ever considered, more something like your most outlandish nightmare and best ever dream combine in a muck. yes, once you go down the path of educating your self there is no turning back to a "safe" and "secure" world as your ego once relished, and longs for until you are happy not knowing where you are going. you realize you are not in control, and you let go and it is replaced with your genius/inner child, and is a true religious experience, and you will know what the mystics were talking about when they were talking to you, but you just didn't know how to listen.
    ah the trouble with words blah
    this moment will be the realization that you are an intricate part to this planet, and It is in constant communicade with you. you know the only thing you ever wanted was to acknoledge this greater sphere of truth, and take no gruff from any swine.
     
  13. I am with you on that one.....but your outlandish, comic book like, very simple and easy to swallow conspiracy theories have got nothing to do with spritual enlightenment.

    Oh well, when we're dead we won't believe anything. Sick joke eh?
     
  14. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    you sound like you know so much, yet nothing ever seems to come out of your mouth you know
     
  15. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    hey is that zena making out with her little red head side kick?
     
  16. Yes that is xena.

    No, i don't know a lot, probably because I'm 21 and its more appropriate at my age to do more thinking and less knowing. If you know too much at such a young age your destined to be gullible, egotistical and intellectually stunted for the rest of your life.

    Look what its done to you.
     
  17. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    but was that her little side kick uh agelani or whatever? that would be hot!

    ah crap you changed it...ah well, i still can picture it. man there's nothin sexier than fearless women walking on the edge, fighting the gustapos of their respective times.

    and you're on the right pathas well, keep thinking like that and in a few years you'll really be living up to your words, and spend less time defending preconceived ideals set before you. yep, i remember being 21, seems like an eternity ago. you should learn to have more respect for those who have already gone before you, hatchling.
     
  18. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    look people lets face it, if you still do not beleive there is the possibility of people in power becomming corrupt and popularizing propoganda to perpetuate their restraints on society, and still doing it feverishly, you are waaaaaay behind on the evolutionary scale of enlightenment. sorry to be the bearer of bad news. yet happy. it's a curse and a blessing.
    see, some, people, such as myself, and many other bearers of Light, havn't been so suceptible to delusion having been researching such matters thouroughly and relentlessly for many years, and come out and talk normal yet it Sounds like complete hogwash to legally "sane" people.
    therefore, many "people" seriously need to reevaluae their perspective on the whole "sane" "insane" rational that fits so smugly in a system devoted to complete control over your conception waking and dying life. you will find that you were once actually "insane" listening to these hate mongors, and therefore attain "sanity" day by day as you start to listen to your witness conscience and unravel the veils blinding you for all this time. you will desire to turn back to the Earth and realize all the things you have been missing sprouting seeds of knoledge everywhere in the forests and deserts. Everything from the medicine the "new world" employes and birth and dying rights, radically projects Away from it's point of orgin, the Earth. The whole mindset is geared towared destruction, and it's quite simple how it became so.




    [size=+1]Chapter 1[/size] [size=+1]The Early Years[/size]



    [p. 20] "I started my experiments with the taking of electricity from the ground, as I termed it, during the summer of 1909. By fall of 1910 I had sufficient power to operate a small electrical device, and I made a demonstration of my idea to two friends... This demonstration in the early stages consisted of operating a miniature arc light... It soon became evident that the energy was not static and that the static of the universe would be of no assistance to me in obtaining the power I was seeking...

    During the Christmas Holidays of 1911, I began to fully realize that the energy I was working with was not of a static nature, but of an oscillating nature. Further I realized that the energy was not coming out of the earth, but instead was coming to the earth from some outside source. These electrical oscillations in the form of waves were not simple oscillations, but were surgings --- like the waves of the sea --- coming to the earth continually, more in the daytime than at night, but always coming in vibrations from the reservoir of colossal energy out there in space. By this time I was able to obtain enough power to light the old 16-candlepower carbon lamp for about one half capacity, and I did not seem to make any further improvement until the spring of 1925."

    [p. 21] In 1912 he was called to go on a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and under a visitor's visa was allowed to enter Sweden during the Exhibition of 1912 in Stockholm...

    In his notebook, dated November 1, 1913, Henry included a memo that he had obtained material from a railroad car at Abisco, Sweden the previous summer, and material from the side of a hill. He made electric tests of these materials, taking them home to try each as a detector for his energy machine. Tests indicated that this soft, white stone-like substance might make a good "valve-like detector"*.

    [ * This "valve-like detector" is what led Henry to do research in semi-conductive materials, and from this soft white stone he developed his first Moray valve and the Moray valve that was used in some of the early Radiant Energy devices] [p. 22] "Silver wire used on stone makes a rectifier."

    http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm
     
  19. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    Chapter 2

    Radiant Energy In Earnest

    [p. 31] Henry Moray demonstrated that energy was available by its actions on a resistive load, such as a flat-iron or a space heater, and by lighting lights. A resistive load is directly proportional to the amount of energy delivered to it. In heating a heater or lighting a light, the number of watts produced can be calculated as equal to the number of watts consumed. This energy is fed into a load to give either heat/light, or power. A motor can be operated but must be designed for high frequency. The Radiant Energy device operation is shown in Figure 54, in which he used an antenna and a ground connected to his solid state RE device...

    He was able to show that none of the energy came from within his device. Internally the device was electrically dead when it had not been connected and tuned to the antenna. When his device was set up, he could connect it to an antenna and ground, and by priming it first and then tuning it as he primed it, the device would draw electrical energy. This high frequency electrical energy produced up to 250,000 volts and it lighted a brighter light than witnesses had ever before seen. Heavy loads could be connected to the device without dimming the lights that were already connected to it. This device worked many miles from any known source of electrical energy. Such as transmission lines or radio. The device produced up to 50,000 watts of power and worked for long periods of time....

    He assumed at first that this energy was electromagnetic in origin; however, he never claimed that it was electromagnetic in nature. He assumed at first that this energy came from the earth. But later he believed it was from the universe. Finally he began to believe that it was present throughout all space, intermolecular space as well as terrestrial and celestial space. He did not necessarily understand how his detectors operated, only that if he very carefully built the device according to his calculations, it worked. He was able to demonstrate the existence of an energy that today, though it has not been identified or proven, has been theorized by many researchers...

    [p. 32] As early as 1904, Nicola Tesla, experimenting with AC currents of high potential and high frequency, said: "Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point in the universe... Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static, our hopes are in vain; if kinetic --- and this we know it is for certain --- then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature."
     
  20. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    whoops the last part is posted on the wrong thread, but what the hell
     
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