Famous People Converted Into Islam

Islam Attracts Converts by the Thousands by Jodi Wilgoren, The New York Times
http://www.alhewar.com/nyt_islam_attracts.htm



Interest in Islam mounts after hijacking atrocity (Guardian Newspapers)
http://www.observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,784241,00.html



ISLAM ATTRACTS CONVERTS BY THE THOUSANDS, DRAWN BEFORE AND AFTER ATTACKS
http://www.hakimquick.com/usa1.htm



Searching Americans Embrace The Logic Behind The Teachings Of Islam
http://www.islamfortoday.com/searchingamericans.htm




Increasing Number of Russians Adopting Islam
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/10/04/islam.shtml


Jermaine Jackson convert to Islam
http://www.geocities.com/IslamAwareness/Converts/Jermaine.html



British journalist Yvonne Ridley embraced Islam
http://www.islamonline.net/English/Views/2002/08/article12.shtml


Italian Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Converts to Islam
http://www.islamfortoday.com/ambassador02.htm



All i got from here.

http://sultan.org/articles/convert.html

 

the problem is that if you wish to leave and do it openly your likely to be murdered

I wonder if you tell your converts that ?

also millions of people are leaving islam despite this, I personally know ex muslims in the uk.

look at the details of mohammeds life do you think that god would choose a man who had sex with children and made people into slaves to be a prophet .

 

Muhammed saved baby girls from being killed at birth and freed many slaves. If you could get past your (all so common) Islamophobia, you would realize that. I know many devout Muslim's, and they are some of the best people I know. How well does an ex-Muslim apostate fare in Tehran? Only slightly better than a visible Muslim fares in butt-fuck Alabama.

No offence to Alabamans, the point is Muslims dont fare too well in the red states.


The world has much more to fear from Christian and Jewish fundamentalists than I do from Islamic Fundamentalists. The Islamic ones arent carressing the red button with their little fingers.

 

what proof do we have that he saved baby girls from being killed at birth, the main written evidence that survived from that period are islamic, and I would say they are a very biased account much like if the manson family had written a account of their early history .

you have mohammeds first wife who was a powerful older women who he may have married for her money, you have accounts of neighbouring countrys being led by women generals and admirals, you have haddith that muslim women were jelous of the freedom given to women in a neighbouring arab tribe .

this suggests that the position of women before islam was better than muslims like to tell you.

I do not think that islam or mohammed did anything for the position of women .

as for freeing slaves he freed a few, but made thousands of people into slaves , he taught that the rape of female captives was ok by god .

he had lots of personal slaves his example held back the repeal of slavery in the islamic world for hundreds of years ,in fact it is still being practiced today in some parts .

if you have a thief and that thief sometimes gives back what he stole does that make him not a thief , mohammed made people into slaves and he traded in people selling them for a profit so he supported slavery.

I would say that the position of open muslims in america is infinately better than the position of open apostates in iran or the middle east .

in america you have a media and a president that tells you that islam is basically peaceful, you have groups like cair who have millions of dollars promoting the same message .

you have the freedom to build mosques all over the country ,look at the number of mosques and islamic societys in the usa do you see the same things for open atheist apostates from islam in iran or saudi .

there are atheists in both saudi and iran I know quite a few in islamic states, but they dont tell people because either their family, or a neighbour, or the state will kill them .

you have public hanging and stoning in iran have you ever seen stoning this women is about to be stoned

heres a link to ex-muslim website where you can watch film of a stoning http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

and pakistan has nuclear weapons soon iran will have them to so they are and will be carressing the nuclear button too .

ask your friends how they feel about stoning or cruicifixtion they may be nice people but it would be interesting to know what they believe . how would they feel if their daughter married a non muslim or openly said that mohammed was a fake .

 

Muslims must show the world that THEY can reign in the radical elements that are causing harm to themselves, their heritage, and their religion. Not to mention the innocent people they are killing.

You should not try to drag other religions in here to take the focus from Islamofascists. Most people will see through that shallow effort. We want peace now and this can start with the Islamic world.

 

what if the trouble is the religion, see my reading of it and islamic history is that the problem is the religion and mohammeds actions not some mad fringe of modern muslims .

The problem I see is irrational ISLAMOPHILIA, thats people having a irrational love of islam even when Islam is very unliberal and nasty ,often these same people also have a hatred of christianity or judism .

its quite interesting and tells you a lot about the racism of the people themselves, give you a example can you imagine what the reaction would be if say isreal or sweden started stoning people to death or cutting off peoples hands .

but the reaction of these ISLAMOPHILIC people is at best muted when they see this sort of thing happening in Iran or saudi.

I suppose they view iranians or saudis as some form of animal or lower being, its very odd .

 

I don't disagree with you regarding the brutality and apparent narrow view. All people of all religions should end bigotry and discrimination. For now, lets stop the killing that must start with the terrorists who blow up civilians and cut off heads.

The Islamic people need to renounce their most violent members and then they need to work on brutality.

 

Yeah but they pray Allah for these weapons and say they should be used to destroy the infidel US and Israel. Thank Jesus they nutjobs don't have a red button to caress.

 

ok....lets go over nuclear weapons track records.
Iran- may nuke Tel Aviv and Haifa
Pakistan- may nuke mumbai and calcutta
North Korea- may nuke LA and seoul
Cuba- may nuke Tampa bay and Disney land

USA- HAS nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....may nuke everywhere else.


Why do you fear Iran so much? they have been involved in one war since the revolution, and they werent the agressor. Israel on the other hand has been involved in many land-grabbing wars since its foundation, and continues to opress and expell the people who rightfully live on that land. Netanyahu is far more dangerous to the world than Ahmadinezhad. Why do I say so? Iran doesnt border any of its enemies, Israel has made an enemy of anyone it touches.

 

Israel got attacked at its birth, there being a Jewish state is a reason for it having enemies.

my father was in command of a invasion ship preparing for the invasion of japan and without nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki we would have still invaded japan but I would think there would be very few Japanese left alive today if we had .

we could kill hundreds of thousands with normal bombing , using this new bomb gave the Japanese the opportunity to surrender and say they were beat by this new wonder weapon

The use of atomic bombs came in a context of us killing hundreds of thousands a night with conventional bombing , and this bombing of citys was practised by both sides.

The Japanese had attacked civilian cities in china half my family is Chinese and I have relatives who remember things like the rape of nanking, on the European side of the family I have relatives captured by the Japanese .

So I can understand people wanting to get the war over with low casualties on both sides .

I think our estimates of allied dead in a opposed invasion would be 3 million god knows how many Japanese would have died.

Since then the west hasn’t used nuclear weapons

Iran is a theocracy, its unstable , I’m not sure of the number of political prisoners but hundreds of thousands of people have been killed since the Islamic revolution , it doesn’t get the same attention to its human rights record that Israel gets buts that’s because you have a very biased racist media .

Basically the talking heads of the left are racists so if they see a few people being killed by Israelis who they identify as white people, they make a loud noise about it. but if they see much larger numbers being killed in Islamic countries by people they seem to think of as non white eternal victims they hardly take notice.

Look at the coverage of things like the genocide in Sudan, I have friends who are in students groups in Iran and they have tried getting support from people like Indymedia and other left wing protest groups but they are just ignored .

But they are facing worse oppression than many of the causes that the left highlight .
Eyes being pulled out which I’ve seen film of, fingers being cut off, stoning to death , hanging on trumped up charges .

You have for a number of years leaders in Iran making direct threats towards the west , they support people like Hezbollah who came up with suicide bombing

heres a film made by the a Iranian student group http://www.democracyforiran.de/Iran_Eng_HQ.html its worth watching

watch the film of the stoning in my earlier post its from iran look at that women in the picture also from iran ,and ask why all you ever hear from the left is isreal isreal isreal .

I mean if it really was about human rights you would think they would concentrate on where those rights are being hurt the most but they dont do that

whats just won a golden globe award a film in support of suicide bombers, little support from micheal moore and the whole left circus for films like submission or films that criticise islam or sheria, no support from hollywood even though theo van gogh death was a direct attack on free speech .

http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/index.php nice site to talk to people who dont like the theocracy in iran

 

Look at Israels birth, it was worse than America and Canada stealing land from the natives. The Jews started a war with the Arabs before the so-called state of Israel even existed, and before that there was Jewish terrorism throuhout Palestine. Consider this, what if you lived in some peice of shit refugee camp in Gaza but your family used to own a large farm in what is now the jewish state. would you think to yourself "oh those poor people, they need a homeland, so they can have mine....i hope theres still more gruel today..."? Now I am straying from Islam, because, contrary to what you may think, the Intifada is not some little religious Jihad, indeed I know Socialist non-religious Palestinians who hate the Israeli's every bit as much as any other Palestinian, and if you were Palestinian you would hate them too. Face it, Israel resembles Aparthied South Africa more closely than any other state in history, the difference being that South Africa's walls of Aparthied were metaphorical whereas the Zionists have actually made a litteral one (that cuts into MORE palestinian land as well). The ANC had many terroristic tendancies just like the PLO, yet you demonize Palestinian resistance........tell me, what do you think of Bantu resistance? Howcome it has more legitimacy than Palestinian resistance? and dont you dare say because it want violent. There is a practice called "necklacing", and yet, IMO, this does not make the resistance against the Aparthied government a useless peice of terrorist shit. Palestine is the same, and Palestine will inevitably achieve the same as the ANC did.

 

Sorry, but those who are leaving islam arent in millions, their numbers are soooo low if compared with those who are leaving their religions to embrace Islam.


Aisha was 6 years old when her parents pledged her to be married to prophet Mohammad, she never entered Mohammad’s house until she became mature at the age of 9 NOT 6.(A GIRL IS CONSIDERED MATURE WHEN SHE HAS HER FIRST MENSTURATION).

Back then and even now in Arabia because of the hot climate girls matured early, take for example a 9 year old Eskimo girl, and compare her to a 9 year old North African girl, or an Arabian girl, you will see a major difference.

So Aisha being 9 would’ve looked like a 15 year old Eskimo girl. In hotter climates girls sexual body parts mature earlier than that of girls in colder climates that is why you see Middle Eastern teenage guys growing facial hair at an early age. Also girls mature earlier than guys, both mentally and physically. And back then not only in Arabia but almost all over the world girls were wed at a young age.

Aisha became mature when she entered Prophet Mohammad’s house as his official wife at the age of 9, AGAIN NOT 6. Also the life expectancy for men was around 40 50 years, and in pre-Islamic Arabia it was even shorter, because of the constant wars between different tribes. Many men died at wars and didn’t even make it to their late 30's leaving their wives and daughters behind.


So to say Prophet Mohammad was a pedophile is completely absurd!

 

well if you leave islam as you know you can face being targeted by muslims so people generally keep a low profile .

in a number of countrys it is illegal to be a apostate from islam , or to preach other religions or to point out what type of man mohammed actually was .



anyway aisha



Islamic law in the time Aisha was around said that only pre-pubescent girls were allowed to play with or own dolls. They allowed them to own dolls because it was thought usefull to teach them to look after a family when they were adults .

But having a doll as a adult would have been seen as having a image of a living thing





Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)



Aisha had her dolls with her when she married Muhammad.



Sahih Muslim Book 8, Number 3311

'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and (s)he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he died she was eighteen years old.



Aisha had sex with Muhammad when she was 9 years old



Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, #2116: "Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."



Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236.

Narrated Hisham's father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed (sic – consummated) that marriage when she was nine years old.



Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).



Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'



Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88

Narrated 'Ursa:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).



Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4915 and Number 4915

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter



also



Aisha was still playing with/owning dolls when she was 14 years old at the time of the Battle of Khaibar.



On the authority of Aisha (RA), that she said:

The Messenger of Allah (SAW) returned from the battle of Tabook or Khaibar (the narrator of the hadith was in doubt about whether he was told "Tabook or Khaibar."). There was a curtain covering her 'sahwah' (chamber or small room in front of the house). The wind blew a side of the curtain and uncovered Aisha's dolls. He (SAW) said: What is this, O Aisha? She said: My dolls. The he (SAW) saw amongst them a horse with two wings from scraps of cloth. He (SAW) said: What is this which I see amongst them (amongst the dolls)? She said: A horse. He asked: What is upon it? She said: Two wings. He (SAW) asked (in astonishment): A horse with two wings? She said: Didn't you hear that Sulaiman (Solomon - AS) had horses with wings? She said: Then he (SAW) laughed until I saw his molar teeth. [Abu Daawood, An-Nasaa'iee as-Sunan al-Kubraa, Albani (ra) says the chain of narrators of an-Nasaa'ee is authentic (Saheeh). As for the chain of narrators of Abu Daawood, Albani (ra) has also declared it to be authentic (saheeh)]



Shaykh al-Islam, Imam Ibn Hajar, Hafiz, Commander of the Faithful in Hadith, Qadi of Egypt, concluded that Aisha was PRE-PUBESCENT when she was 14 years old.



Could you please show proof that this little girl playing with dolls had reached puberty when mohammed started having sex with her .

 

Why do you sacrifice so much of your time to these posts that just confirm your hatred for Muslims? Like that one post, you either copied-and-pasted it from some radical republican website, or you spent 10-20 minitues spreading your hate on what is meant to be a non-hateful forum. I am not a Muslim, nor have I enough time right now to look into counters to your arguements. I will say this though, and I know it doesnt respond to your arguements at all, but considering your amounts of digression I think it is in order. I ask you one question...that is do you hate Muslim people? If you respond no, then you must realize how much your accusations of their spiritual guide (and under Islam, middle eastern civilization flourished, and was far more advanced than anything Europe, Asia, or even Mesoamerica had to offer) offend Muslim people personally. When you say these things, you are taking a shit on what millions of good people have to thank for their lives, because Islam does help people strive to be the most good they can be. Of course there are those who misuse the teachings of Islam to fulfil their own desires, but that can be said of any religion, including athiesm. So either explain your hatred of the muslim people, or go ahead and copy&paste more bullshit from the Heritage Foundation's website. Frankly, I grow tired of trying to respond to your hateful posts.

 

this, from one of the other hate threads of jonny who's 2 mad at muslims/world

keeps confirmin it, dont he ?

 

One thing that is ridiculous - trying to create a Muslim "apologetic' which means 'barter down' the Aisha rationale to have us believe that Muhammed did anything besides have sex with a NINE YEAR OLD.

Look, there is a theory and concern out there that MODERN factors have and are pushing back the age of puberty for girls.
There is real concern this is caused by modern diets (hormones in foods etc) as well as exposure to hypersexual stimulus (boy bands for example) and in particular the stress of an ever 'faster' and more stimulating lifestyle we are all part of now.

Even in this case, Eleven is considered extremely young for menstruation to begin (but its been happening more lately) and 10 is virtually unheard of.
Nine is NOT gonna be happening and if it did it would be considered a MEDICAL CONDITION and when it does happen (more NOWadays) there has been a great deal of concern over how and why estrogen levels are so high and children may be tested for tumours or gland malfunctions.

Even in these cases, the child is not developed yet. This is not the same as a the 13-15 year old girls we see who have basically already developed their bodies and are physically ready for intercourse.

The Nine year old is still a CHILD just as much as the 10 year old boy with a couple of pubic hairs and ability to get some erections is not actually developed or would be sexually attractive to a grown up (and sane) woman.

There is a rare (very rare) disease in which some children have been found with early puberty.. actually as little toddlers.
This is a rare medical condition and again, this does not mean when they are Nine they have developed female bodies and are ready for sexual intercourse with a 50 year old man.

Seriously, Muslims need to either give up on these Haddith (and many have) or just come clean and straight out admit that Muhammed was having sex with nine year olds and dont make some ridiculous story about Desert Heat baking children into adults at some early age.

Even the Haddith itself is clear she was not miraculously advanced in puberty (if she was I could see an explanation here?) but instead she is a pre-pubescent, undeveloped Nine year old girl.
He is Fifty
He has sexual intercourse with the Nine year old.

Heck.. thats not nearly as sick as when Muhammeds men murder parents and then take their Boys as 'loot' as a reward from Allah.
I HOPE that is wrong!?

 

how about keepin just one thread open for the same topic!
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9113&page=3

 

I see that none of you people have come up with any proof that aisha had reached puberty .
while I on the other hand have given you proof that she had not .

ewok utopia as I have said before I am working on setting up a website that gives the counter argument to people that claim that there was a islamic golden age, or that islam in its self as helped the civilisation of the people who have lived in islamic majority countrys .

in fact we will show that islam as acted as a break, that it has retarded the development of what were in many cases some of the most developed areas of the world .

anyway if you look at what you have had to say its basically been a Argumentum ad hominem attack on me, which is a debating Fallacie whatever my motives are makes no difference to what mohammed did .

also in the charge of pedophilia you have mohammed saying he dreamed about aisha brought to him wrapped in a cloth, that to me that would suggest he was dreaming of a very young child thats in sahih haddith, I can dig it up if you like but have posted it before .

we also dont know how many slave children mohammed owned there is a list of some of his slaves, but as he bought and sold people we cant be sure how many children he owned .
as a right hand possession you could rape your slave so we have a whole source there of possible other victims

we have him again in sahih haddith saying

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17.

in this haddith hes complaining to a man that instead of marrying a adult women he should have married a young girl , and he says that he himself likes fondling young girls and virgins .

again in The Life of Muhammad" (Sirat Rasul Allah) by Ibn Ishaq, which I dont usually quote from as its not sahih haddith or the quran , but it does seem to confirm the general case that he was a pedophile it says

Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab...1

this appears to have occured 2 years after the battle of badr and he would have been about 55 so two years after he married aisha.

Im sorry that Im taking so long to reply to posts as am very busy best wishes to you all jon

 

and still ..goes on confirmin it!

 

also this is a free speech website ,

I see what Im doing as spreading love by encouraging muslims to stop following such a very nasty immoral man and a false religion .

if cat stevens had been given the information that mohammed was a pedophile ect ect, maybe he wouldnt have become a muslim and hounded a british author into hiding for twenty years .

he showed as far as I know no wish to watch people burn to death before becoming a muslim so I would say its had a very bad effect on him .

as thats what he said he wanted to do to salman rushdie on british tv .

who can tell there may be people reading what I write who say yes I want to follow a pedophile, this mohammed what with is slavery, robbery, and chopping peoples hands off, sounds a great guy .
or people are being unfair to islam, being a muslim is chic and radical, and they have such interestings clothes and hats I shall therefore become a muslim .

but thats up to them ,I will have done my part and pointed out why I think the religion is false