The Moon Landings Were A Hoax!!:

Discussion in 'Paranoid?' started by Flight From Ashiya, Apr 20, 2005.

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Was the Apollo13 1969 Moon Landing a hoax?

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  2. No

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  3. I'm not sure

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  1. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    If this is supposed to be a photograph from A11, then I would have to ask who the hell took the picture. :) They didn't have a rover with a remote camera, hence nearly all the actual A11 surface photos are of Aldrin, taken by Armstrong. I don't think Aldrin carried a camera on the surface. They had a fixed still camera, but it was attached to the LM, and couldn't possibly have taken this "picture".

    Huh?

    You posted a "trick" photo, presumably in an attempt to make the hoax skeptics look foolish, and were promptly called on it. I fail to see how a photo of a scale model (nice as it is, but still glaringly obvious with even a casual glance) helps prove the moon hoax theories.



    Not at ALL, as there is no way for anyone to change their vote afterward. After seeing how thoroughly and quickly the hoax claims are being blown out of the water, perhaps many who "weren't sure" have now learned enough to change their opinion.
     
  2. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    No, that doesn't even remotely look like a real pic. It has the stiff look of LEGO.
     
  3. El Capitan

    El Capitan Banned

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    we never landed on the moon and hardly in Iraq.
     
  4. PeaceLoveAndMaryJane

    PeaceLoveAndMaryJane Member

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    Or just a complete moron...
     
  5. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    the moon is a star?? who told you that crap???

    its a fuckin rock. thats all it is. radiation, my ass
     
  6. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    and the fact that it is pretty difficult to fake makes the scientists ready to slam their suitcases closed and take a trip to the moon (which believe me is not the preferred traveling destination lol)
    people who consider themselves "scientific" should take more time when formulating their hypothesis to consider the possibility that such an event as to orchistrate a hoax of this porportion pales in comparision to the hoax of the business of what we associate these "governments" of the world we're talking about
     
  7. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    what i'm really saying is this: why not fake a moon landing hoax? all in the name of saveing money. sure the technology exists to do it, that just cuts a little bit off the top to run such operations. the real motive is purley militaristic for these bastards though, just look in their eyes. they're hungry for the extermination of the wimpy hominoids these crazed reptilians so despise. and so you get the brainwashing (and i really mean brainwashing) and these people really think they are landing on the moon and everything...really go the extra mile.
    get a few of your cronies together in hollywood and make a movie about it, and you just bought what the flocking masses needed to chew on with a little scum off the top. all the rest of all that unchecked money flowing into Nasa, which lets not forget is a private entitty from the gov't with other intersted vested than the american people, plenty to fund all the secret research on alien intelligence and get outta the picture when the time is necessary so you have no worries regardless.
    and how do you not think they hanv't gone back to the moon without your knoledge? jesus christ the gov't doesn't tell us anything as it is, why would a private corporation called nasa with it's shareholders as it's primary obligation? ah hem whoops i forgot thats all the gov't was designed to be anyway. to let alien intelligence leak out to the public would destroy all they have worked so hard to build my friends, there would be no need for nasa if we knew what we really are entilted to. thats right we would actually be able to think for ourselves! woah what a concept. amazing the power of a silver spoon. besides we all have to die. we have to get saved remember?
     
  8. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    i read this whole fucking thread by the way, just curious to see the reactions to such extreme paranioa that i take to the next level.

    really though, it's NOT paranoia, it's being prepared by knowing your enemy. the only thing you can call that is stradegy. and i play stradegy games. there is promising evidence that the "scientific"community violently dismiss the same amount they blaspheme the "conspiracy nuts" for same. a "hair" (yeah right i actually do know photography and know hairs turn up BLACK or WHITE, not gray and grainy as the exact same texture as the photograhped, EVEN if the hair was gray because the light refraction would be shadow or overwhelmingly distored as to appear so, which the picture is not. all i am saying is it is POSSIBLY something. and yet NO it's NOT NO WAY no fucking way man.. woah so lemme get this straight the scientists are just as closed minded as the conspiracy nuts? well my friends at least the conspiracy nuts are interesting.
    besides how do you know what happened were you there?
    just because you have entered one bid you can still go in and clean the drawers yes, but chances are you are gonna need a few of em...especially if you're a knoledgable enthusiast
     
  9. nutznfl

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    weather it was or wasnt we still send objects and people into space today, like right now we have a satalite on its way to pluto !! i think our moneys could be spent better at home, the world not gona last long enough to live in space anyways...
     
  10. cymru_jules

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    I think it's a myth about money being spent better elsewhere. I mean, in the UK we spend £30bn a year or so on the military - and since the current government came to power they have increased the national health service budget by a similar amount. However, the NHS has not really been that transformed as you would expect.

    Space budgets are peanuts compared to military ones, with the exception of the grand projects of the 60's specifically Apollo. Even the ISS which I thought super expensive at one time has cost the collective nations about the same in which britain has spent developing it's new (old!) Eurofighter.

    I think if serious amounts of money was spent on space year on year (equiverlent to military or health budgets!) then we would probably have established colonies on the moon and maybe even Mars by now!
     
  11. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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  12. Flight From Ashiya

    Flight From Ashiya Senior Member

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    Hey,thankyou to everyone on this thread.I'm so proud of this topic/thread!.
    It has sparked some real controversy on here,got people to really think hard;..........& also generated some good laughs with it's untimely sarcasm.
    I have read the whole thread,It took me quite a while.

    But I am still convinced that the Moon landings never took place.


    The man with all the explaining to do is now dead:

    Richard Milhouse Nixon.

    If Watergate proved him a liar.Why can the Moon Landings prove him a liar?.

    NASA has never come out with a clear,unequivocal press statement to say:
    "The Moon Landings took place;here is the irrefutable proof".

    If they don't do so soon;- the doubting thomas's will multiply.
     
  13. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    A repost from the other moon hoax thread:




    How about:

    http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/News/2001/News-MoonLanding.asp

    or

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

    or

    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/apollo.html

    [​IMG]
     
  14. stupidgirl17

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    Hahahaha, I'm sorry, But really, "the moon is a star"?! Hahahaa, man, in grade 6 I knew that wasn't true!
     
  15. Flight From Ashiya

    Flight From Ashiya Senior Member

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    Ellis:-Hi, I read the first link you provided & I haven't read such smirking apologist mish-mash as that,for a long while.
    I've seen the video-clip of the Flag blowing in the wind & neither Buzz Aldrin or Neil Armstrong are touching the flag at all.It is flapping about of it's own volition.
    You say Nixon could have blown the whistle on his despised compatriots Kennedy & L.B.J.
    Well I just mentioned the word: Patriot. Nixon was a Patriot.He loved America & wouldn't do anything to damage it's image to the World.To expose the fraud would have compromised America in the eyes of the Russians.
    In 1969-The Cold War was as hot as it would ever be.
    Russia had humiliated America by sending the first satellite into space in 1957;-then the first man into orbit: Yuri Gagarin.
    America had to get one up or admit the Space Race had been won by the U.S.S.R.

    If a Man visits another world does he make a heroic speech then leap down into the sand & dust like he is on a beach?.Does he playfully jump to & fro- ride a dune buggy around bouncing everywhere.

    Were the Astronauts even the slightest bit worried that If their boosters on the Lunar Pod failed to ignite;- they would be stranded on the Moon & would die within hours?.

    If Man visits another world,one to which no man has ever visited; does he unfurl & plant 'an American Flag'?.....surely he would plant the flag of Planet Earth or the Human Race?.

    The 'American Flag' was supremely symbolic; "Russia,are you watching this on your t.v. sets?".

    I do not wish to insult American sentiment.I have already visted America once.I dig America.
    All I believe in: Is the truth.I want the truth.I can be trusted with the truth.
     
  16. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Just as you would expect of an object placed into motion in a vacuum, no?

    Explained quite clearly by the "smirking apologists":



    Yeah, Nixon loved America so much that he was willing to trash the constitution, spy on citizens, and attempt to rig elections... Gimme a break!


    Actually, by the time of the Apollo 11 mission, we had already far surpassed the USSR in many areas, such as distance travelled, duration of spaceflight, etc. And the Russians had failed at the most critical step in their program--developing a rocket powerful enough to launch a lunar vehicle, even though they had historically led the US in space launch capability.


    Yes, they were. That's why Apollo 9 and 10 both tested the firing of the LM ascent engine before any landing attempt was made. And why the engine was designed in the simplest possible way, using propellants that ignited automatically on contact (hypergolic), eliminating pumps, ignition systems , etc. All the astronauts had to do was open 2 valves, and the engine would light.


    If only....:(
     
  17. paintingjames

    paintingjames freaky fish

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    told you the conspiracy would never die...and nixon was a scoundrel and a cheat, but he was a patriot. in fact, he would have been proud of the patriot act!
    the question i guess would be, how long did the flag wave like it did? i never saw the video (gasp)
     
  18. RavenTheDarkAngel

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    Has anyone mentioned the temputure?! (sorry I'm too lazy to read the WHOLE thred) I mean I don't think anyone's pointed this out before but ... the cameras being held would never last in the extreame temp of the moon. If they went during the day then the temp reaches past boiling point! The friggin film would melt or be destoryed at that kind of condition or if they went at night it'd be just too cold for the film too!
     
  19. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Yes, if the film was left unprotected on the lunar surface, it would have been destroyed. BUT:

    The film was kept inside the camera magazines, which were painted white to reflect the sunlight.

    Convection heating of the film would have been impossible in the vacuum of the moon.

    ALL of the landings were timed to take place during the early part of the lunar day (which is 28 earth days long), when temperatures are much less extreme.

    A special film stock was developed by Kodak specifically for space applications. This film was designed to be far more forgiving of temperature extremes than standard acetate film.
     
  20. FiddlerOnTheRoof

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    lol! Haven't had the strength of sanity to read a zillionth of this thread, but this quote really got me laughing!! :)

    I suspect - shock horror! - that the slow-motion astronauts are walking normally if the film is speeded up because THE FILM HAS BEEN SPEEDED UP!!

    *gasps in astonishment*
     

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